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schw4rz3r_Engel #1 Posted 03 March 2020 - 09:07 PM

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Hi,

 

I was wondering whether there is a website that keeps track of which DMG on a tank matches which WN8 value?

 

Obviously this is known information, there's probably even an API for that as XVM can display WN8 for individual battles, tanks and play sessions. So for the battles WN8 there has to be an exchange of data where the client receive a WN8 value for a single DMG value it sends.

Also you can just look around for a player that has 200 dmg on T-34-85 to find out the WN8 value to that DMG, then look for a player that has 250 dmg on his T-34-85, then another player with 300 dmg and so on. Obviously this is not worth the time, but it proofs that the information I'm looking for is there. The possibility exists to gather that information.

 

So the question is whether there is a a website or service that actually does that for me?

 

Thanks guys,

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xx984 #2 Posted 03 March 2020 - 09:31 PM

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https://www.wotgarage.net/

This might be of some help, not sure how accurate it is

 

 


Edited by xx984, 03 March 2020 - 09:32 PM.


TomatoShooter #3 Posted 04 March 2020 - 09:08 AM

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https://modxvm.com/en/wn8-expected-values/  updated daily.

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schw4rz3r_Engel #4 Posted 06 March 2020 - 06:54 PM

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View Postxx984, on 03 March 2020 - 08:31 PM, said:

https://www.wotgarage.net/

This might be of some help, not sure how accurate it is

 

This looks like what I'm looking for.

 

Am I right in assuming that the white numbers highlighted in different WN8 colors are the DMG values to reach that WN8?

In this case what are the actual WN8 values that these colors stand for? Firstly, which color scale is used? And secondly, a color is defined by a range of WN8 values. F.e. if green meant 1200-1400 WN8, which value between 1200 and 1400 is the one that belongs to the highlighted DMG value? Is it the lowest one to reach the color?

 

 

View PostTomatoShooter, on 04 March 2020 - 08:08 AM, said:

 

This isn't really what I was looking for. I already know this site, but I don't know what expected values are. Can you tell me?

 

Anyway, I've noticed that of course there is a formula that defines how WN8 is calculated. Actually that's kinda obvious, but I didn't think about it. So you can look up that formula and calculate WN8 values using the expected values. Still wondering whether there is a website that does that automatically though. I guess the one above does, but not for exact custom values. You could even automate that by yourself but you would have to access the online database. This wouldn't be a complicated thing for a website I think.

 

Can someone tell me what expected values are? (https://modxvm.com/en/wn8-expected-values/) I know the expected value to the average result of an experiment. It is based on a random variable that can have different result values of the experiment. Each of these result values has it's own probability, in total 100%.

In practice you can see the expected value as the result of a risk-benefit calculation. The benefit is the value of the random variable, it is multiplied by it's probability. That's done for all values of the random variable and added up.

Thinking about it, in practice probability is just empirical/experimental probability. In this case the calculation for the expected value of the random variable is equivalent to the calculation of the average value of that variable.

So is it right to say that expected value and average are basically the same?

Why then does the data not proof this. We've got expected values for DMG and WR here:https://modxvm.com/en/wn8-expected-values/ and we've got values titled average for DMG and WR here: https://wotlabs.net/eu/tankStats. Both statistics are updated daily. Still the values differ for the same tank. Why?

 

Also what does the x mean in front of all the value names, like xWN8, xWR, xWTR...?

 

Thanks guys, maybe someone can help me here, although it's become completely mathematical now.

 


Edited by schw4rz3r_Engel, 06 March 2020 - 06:59 PM.






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