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LZ_Mordan #1 Posted 05 March 2020 - 05:20 PM

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Complete waste of time to work your game and then.. you run out of time to kill the last camping/hiding tanks.

 

the best epic games are when only a few tanks are left,, and we have to fight out in the trenches.

 

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Only_Slightly_Bent #2 Posted 05 March 2020 - 05:28 PM

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You can cap, you know. So many battles have been lost because of "No cap, kill all"...

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View PostOnly_Slightly_Bent, on 05 March 2020 - 04:28 PM, said:

You can cap, you know. So many battles have been lost because of "No cap, kill all"...

 

often on the map, the cap zone is a sniping range for campers.

 

so capping is often not possible.. And also, you often don't have enough time to cap.. 

 

Those are the worse games. You cap but time runs out. TOXIC>



Ringo_Star #4 Posted 05 March 2020 - 06:15 PM

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View PostOnly_Slightly_Bent, on 05 March 2020 - 04:28 PM, said:

You can cap, you know. So many battles have been lost because of "No cap, kill all"...

And so many credits ,experience  and MoE precentage were wasted for capping on 12:5


Edited by Ringo_Star, 05 March 2020 - 06:23 PM.


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because after 15 minutes of hard camping on prok or malinovka I really don't want an extension

LethalWalou #6 Posted 05 March 2020 - 06:20 PM

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View PostOnly_Slightly_Bent, on 05 March 2020 - 04:28 PM, said:

You can cap, you know. So many battles have been lost because of "No cap, kill all"...

 

Oh the good old ''no cap, kill all'' shouting in chat. :D I used to be guilty of doing it. Now I've changed it to ''don't cap, please''. Works like 80% of the time in getting people to give more time for me and others. I don't think I've lost any games for that though so I'll keep on doing it. I actually appreciate that some give such chance so I'm not upset if they eventually take a cap win. At least I was given a chance. :)



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View PostLZ_Mordan, on 05 March 2020 - 05:20 PM, said:

Complete waste of time to work your game and then.. you run out of time to kill the last camping/hiding tanks.

One in a hundred games.  Solution looking for a problem.



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15 minutes is enough time to work within.

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View PostRingo_Star, on 05 March 2020 - 05:15 PM, said:

And so many credits and experience were wasted for capping on 12:5

 

Oh bugger off. We both know you're only after the damage you dirty 3-marker you. :P Just like I am nowadays.



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View PostRingo_Star, on 05 March 2020 - 05:15 PM, said:

And so many credits ,experience  and MoE precentage were wasted for capping on 12:5

Not talking about 12:5, talking about games that go to the wire and are lost because someone got killed hunting the last enemy when they could have won through cap.

 

LethalWalou - That's fair enough but it's the throwing of a game to get that kill I have an issue with. When the last tank hunt is on, I'll often sit in cap as a backup (if I'm too far away from the action) to secure the win, I'm happy to briefly drive out of the circle to give the hunters more time but if it looks like they've gone potato (which happens so often), I'll stay in it and I've saved more games than denied the final kill because of it.



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How much more time you want (need), an hour?

Most battles last lest than 8 min.

If you can't kill everybody in 15min. then you have already wasted time.

 

You know there is a way to extend the time.

Every time somebody dies, the timer woll be reset and you have 5 seconds.

Start killing your team mates so you...

Oh yeah no TK anymore.



LethalWalou #12 Posted 05 March 2020 - 07:07 PM

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View PostOnly_Slightly_Bent, on 05 March 2020 - 05:57 PM, said:

LethalWalou - That's fair enough but it's the throwing of a game to get that kill I have an issue with. When the last tank hunt is on, I'll often sit in cap as a backup (if I'm too far away from the action) to secure the win, I'm happy to briefly drive out of the circle to give the hunters more time but if it looks like they've gone potato (which happens so often), I'll stay in it and I've saved more games than denied the final kill because of it.

 

I know. That's why I personally started to use the line I just said, pretty much only in situations where there is just damage left to be farmed. Not in risky situations. It's good that someone still sits in the cap and when I ask for more time, I mostly get like 30s of extra time to hunt the enemies. I appreciate the chance I get, it's kinda like a compromise. They give me a fair chance but they have to think themselves too.



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View PostLZ_Mordan, on 05 March 2020 - 05:12 PM, said:

 

often on the map, the cap zone is a sniping range for campers.

 

But you only get an extension in FL if you are capping.  If there is nobody in a cap zone the battle ends when the timer runs out.



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So you have a game, that are down to the last 3.... and no one has been spotted for 6 min. I fail to see how 2 min more would help then. If it's not that, then it's two driving in circles around the map looking for each other, not seeing the other for 6 min. I don't need 2 min more of that. As that's 90% of the tie games vs people duking it out or failing to cap by 5 seconds.

Edited by Balc0ra, 05 March 2020 - 09:48 PM.


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No thanks.

15 minutes are more than enough. And why would anyone even need extension? Since 80-70% of the battles end in 4-5 minutes? 

Today i had a battle where enemies literally didn't do anything, just moved a bit, fired some shoots and missed. Lost.

We won 15-2. I think it took something about 3 minutes.

 

Anyway, these battles that you're asking for are happening rarely, so no need.



LZ_Mordan #16 Posted 05 March 2020 - 11:22 PM

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View Postsplash_time, on 05 March 2020 - 08:51 PM, said:

No thanks.

15 minutes are more than enough. And why would anyone even need extension? Since 80-70% of the battles end in 4-5 minutes? 

Today i had a battle where enemies literally didn't do anything, just moved a bit, fired some shoots and missed. Lost.

We won 15-2. I think it took something about 3 minutes.

 

Anyway, these battles that you're asking for are happening rarely, so no need.

 

but it does happen. It happened to me once today.. it was the BEST game of the whole day.. I hate those rofl stomp all the time.

 

The game ended in a draw. It was super interesting but timer ended the game early. So it sucked that is what prompted me to write this post.

 

 

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View PostMeetriX, on 05 March 2020 - 05:57 PM, said:

How much more time you want (need), an hour?

Most battles last lest than 8 min.

If you can't kill everybody in 15min. then you have already wasted time.

 

You know there is a way to extend the time.

Every time somebody dies, the timer woll be reset and you have 5 seconds.

Start killing your team mates so you...

Oh yeah no TK anymore.

 

Like FL, you would need some conditions for the extension to come.

 

If 5 vs 5 tanks are all camping.. No extension.

 

If any enemy tank is currently a on the cap, you get an extension.

 

if only 5 tanks left (enemy and friends), you get an extension.


Edited by LZ_Mordan, 05 March 2020 - 11:24 PM.


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View PostLZ_Mordan, on 05 March 2020 - 11:22 PM, said:

 

If 5 vs 5 tanks are all camping.. No extension.

 

If any enemy tank is currently a on the cap, you get an extension.

 

if only 5 tanks left (enemy and friends), you get an extension.

You camp 60km/h, so no extra time.:trollface:

You have 5 seconds to kill an enemy tank after their cap. (I already said this)

 

 Cap or kill all. You have 15 min.

 

 



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View PostHomer_J, on 05 March 2020 - 07:11 PM, said:

 

But you only get an extension in FL if you are capping.  If there is nobody in a cap zone the battle ends when the timer runs out.

 

Also the initial time in Frontline is 12 minutes only; if nobody manages to cap a base then a Frontline battle is even shorter than a regular battle.



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No thanks. The time limit exists so people are forced to act at some point if they want to win, and that actually can enable new tactics. The amount of battles where a longer duration might be useful is so low that it's not worth the added complexity.



splash_time #20 Posted 06 March 2020 - 11:14 AM

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By the way about frontline, would TRs tokens be counted while playing it? Because we'll play T8s.


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