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Mulaigalo #1 Posted 07 March 2020 - 06:50 PM

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Hey! I'm a new-ish player with a small bit of experience (played a lot of WoT Blitz back in the day, so I'm familiar with most mechanics). This time, I really want to try get into WoT PC since the playstyle seems to check most boxes for me. Here's some questions:

 

1. What's a good medium tank line to go down if we exclude Russia? I already have the T-34-85 and I want to hang around tier 6 for a while, so might as well try something different. Thinking Italian or Swedish

2. How exactly do you play Russian heavies here? I'm on the KV-1 which I absolutely adore in Blitz, but here it's just very frustrating with +2 MM.

3. Overall, what's a fun line to go down that has effective and fun mid tier tanks? I'm looking for pure fun factor here.

4. Is the Object 268 still a bad T10? It's one of the tanks I want the most.

5. What's a good light tank line to go down for campaigns? I understand playing LTs is a bad choice as a beginner, but I must play them for the StuG campaign.

 

that's all, thank you so much =)



ZlatanArKung #2 Posted 07 March 2020 - 06:59 PM

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1:Good medium tanks.
Italian T8+
I liked American Pershing line and Japan up to T7 (haven't tested T8+ yet).
Czech had an awesome T6, rumors say it have an awesome T9 and T10 aswell.

2: KV-1 against 2 tiered higher is pretty unarmoured. Armour works good against T5 and below mostly. Angle like 45 degrees for max effective value. T8+ have strong turret with weaker hull and high alpha.

3: What playstyle do you like?

4: Yes, Obj 268 is bad, Obj 268 v4 is decent. But if you like that tank and style, go for it anyway. Most important is that you have fun.

5: I liked T7 French AMX 13 75, also the T71 DA  (American) is good. The T5 ELC AMX and Leopard are also fun tanks.
The Chinese lights look good (in my opinion).
You should be able to complete all light tank missions for StuG in either.


Balc0ra #3 Posted 07 March 2020 - 07:07 PM

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1: Depends on your style. Italians at that tier are slow support meds with some armor and high alpha. Works on a ridgeline as top tier rather well. Swedish are more mobile, but no armor. Tier 6 lacks a bit DPM vs others, but as a great gun still. Tier 7 is more of a bully/flanker regardless of what gun you use. Swedes on that tier are definitely on my top medium list. Skoda T25 is not a bad pick either.

 

2: Blitz has a different balance setup on both HP, guns, pen, alpha and in some cases armor. So they won't work the same way here, even as top tier. In a +2 your job is not to push the front line. It's to support your top tier heavy behind them. It will take some getting used to vs Blitz regardless of MM due to all the differences.

 

3: Pure fun? Well, situational depending on who you ask. But for fun alone? Any Sherman with a 105 derp on it. I prefer the Sherman III personally.

 

4: It's not 100% solid in the current meta here. Armor can work. But after the 268 V4 etc came, it did fall behind a bit. But it's not 100% useless tbh.

 

5: For the missions? German Luchs is a good early one to have. Does most of the missions rather easy with the 103 gun. Not impossible to do the last mission with either, as in 3K assist. But the higher the tier the better. Tbh then for my style the French mid to high tiers might be a better choice once you get the hang of passive spotting etc with the maps we have vs Blitz.

 



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1. M48 Patton , STB-1 , TVP T 50/51, Progetto 65

2. Do smart trades, do damage without taking any back. Play in the heavy lines and just farm.

3. IS-7 line or 277 line.

4. 268 V4 is good , 268 is not that good but not horrible.

5. AMX 13 105 line is fun and ok.


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1. I really liked the swedish mediums. The tier 5-6-7 are golden imo, haven't played the tier 8 and 9, but tested the tier 10 udes medium and seems really strong. I  would recommend this one because it has no stinkers.

 

2 Kv-1 is all about angling, yes if you are at the bottom it's kinda hard to do much, better to sit a little bit back and just support, but it was a blast when i 3 marked it. 

Also try to get hull down, the kv-1 turret is pretty sturdy and equal tiered tanks will  have a really hard time to pen.

 

3. This really depends on what style you like, i really enjoyed the French LT line, i think they are all good, but the tier 7 AMX 13-75 is pure golden, has everything it needs,camo,clip,vr,speed.

4 I really don't like that line, some fun tanks with the high alpha but the guns troll too much for my liking.

 

5. If you are  only after missions, Chinese and French lt lines imo  have the best   combination for doing missions,  if you have some experience with lt's both lines have tier 5-6-7 tanks that can easily do whatever stug lt mission you need.



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View PostZlatanArKung, on 07 March 2020 - 06:59 PM, said:

1:Good medium tanks.
Italian T8+
I liked American Pershing line and Japan up to T7 (haven't tested T8+ yet).
Czech had an awesome T6, rumors say it have an awesome T9 and T10 aswell.

2: KV-1 against 2 tiered higher is pretty unarmoured. Armour works good against T5 and below mostly. Angle like 45 degrees for max effective value. T8+ have strong turret with weaker hull and high alpha.

3: What playstyle do you like?

4: Yes, Obj 268 is bad, Obj 268 v4 is decent. But if you like that tank and style, go for it anyway. Most important is that you have fun.

5: I liked T7 French AMX 13 75, also the T71 DA (American) is good. The T5 ELC AMX and Leopard are also fun tanks.
The Chinese lights look good (in my opinion).
You should be able to complete all light tank missions for StuG in either.

I prefer to be closer to the enemy, and I really really like having a big gun with decent-big alpha damage. DPM doesn't matter too much to me, I want good alpha. :)

 

 



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View PostMulaigalo, on 07 March 2020 - 07:23 PM, said:

I prefer to be closer to the enemy, and I really really like having a big gun with decent-big alpha damage. DPM doesn't matter too much to me, I want good alpha. :)

 

 

 

If high alpha is your thing. Then there are better TD's then the 268 that gets the same job done. Then also the Italians might fit you better on mid tiers vs the Swedish tier 6 etc. Tho the Swedish tier 7 has a hard-hitting gun as a 2nd option if you like hit and runs.



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View PostBalc0ra, on 07 March 2020 - 08:07 PM, said:

 

If high alpha is your thing. Then there are better TD's then the 268 that gets the same job done. Then also the Italians might fit you better on mid tiers vs the Swedish tier 6 etc. Tho the Swedish tier 7 has a hard-hitting gun as a 2nd option if you like hit and runs.

I just really want to have big guns that hit really hard. Never gets old seeing the huge chunks of HP just disappear ;) You're saying there are better TDs than the 268 for that. What TD line might be better for that, then? :)



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1. The good T6 MTs are these:

  • T-34-85
  • VK 30.01 P
  • Cromwell
  • T 20

 

But if you want overall all good lines? 

  • Proggetto 65
  • Udes 15/16
  • TVP T50/51 (T6and T9 are epic in their own tiers)
  • STB-1
  • Leopard 1 (it got great buffs but it remains situational)

 

2. I play them safe, if I'm a top tier, I try to destroy enemy team top tiers to enjoy my battle and only farm damage. 

Don't play aggressive with Russians, in low tiers (especially when you're bottom tier).

 

3. Point 1.

 

4. 268 is good TD but all prefer E4, grille 15 or strv 103 over it. Because they do the same, but in a better way. 

 

5. Any LT can work if you know how to play them.

 



Balc0ra #10 Posted 07 March 2020 - 08:38 PM

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View PostMulaigalo, on 07 March 2020 - 08:09 PM, said:

I just really want to have big guns that hit really hard. Never gets old seeing the huge chunks of HP just disappear ;) You're saying there are better TDs than the 268 for that. What TD line might be better for that, then? :)

 

German turreted TD's is not the worst idea. They have 750 alpha from tier 8 and up. But camo and turret to go with it, traded for some less pen. So a bit more flexible. The other Russian line is not terrible either. Tho a more aggressive style, as they traded armor for alpha. So you're in the 440 to 550 area vs 750.



Mulaigalo #11 Posted 07 March 2020 - 09:06 PM

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View Postsplash_time, on 07 March 2020 - 08:25 PM, said:

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1. The good T6 MTs are these:

  • T-34-85
  • VK 30.01 P
  • Cromwell
  • T 20

 

But if you want overall all good lines? 

  • Proggetto 65
  • Udes 15/16
  • TVP T50/51 (T6and T9 are epic in their own tiers)
  • STB-1
  • Leopard 1 (it got great buffs but it remains situational)

 

2. I play them safe, if I'm a top tier, I try to destroy enemy team top tiers to enjoy my battle and only farm damage. 

Don't play aggressive with Russians, in low tiers (especially when you're bottom tier).

 

3. Point 1.

 

4. 268 is good TD but all prefer E4, grille 15 or strv 103 over it. Because they do the same, but in a better way. 

 

5. Any LT can work if you know how to play them.

 

I see you mentioned the STB line. Are the Japanese mediums any good? As in, the lower tier ones like the Chi-Nu, Chi-Ri, etc.. I've been wanting to try them for ages by now. But everyone makes out the lower tiers to be helplessly useless.



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View PostMulaigalo, on 07 March 2020 - 11:06 PM, said:

I see you mentioned the STB line. Are the Japanese mediums any good? As in, the lower tier ones like the Chi-Nu, Chi-Ri, etc.. I've been wanting to try them for ages by now. But everyone makes out the lower tiers to be helplessly useless.

 

Well, the T10 is the hidden jewel in the line. The lower tiers are just meh. 

 

Now I don't mean they are so bad, they are good (for example the T8 second stock gun has 280 mm HEAT which is more than enough in T8), but they are hard to perform well with, except the T10 which has DPM, penetration, gun depression and reliable turret armour.



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View PostMulaigalo, on 07 March 2020 - 07:23 PM, said:

I prefer to be closer to the enemy, and I really really like having a big gun with decent-big alpha damage. DPM doesn't matter too much to me, I want good alpha. :)

 

 

If you want in your face tank with decent to high alpha.

 

I suggest you go for the T8+ American line T28 and T95 primarily. The other is OK aswell.

 

Other in your face higher alpha tanks are Jap heavies.

 

Russian heavies, like T-150, IS/KV-3 etc are also like this.

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View PostMulaigalo, on 07 March 2020 - 09:06 PM, said:

I see you mentioned the STB line. Are the Japanese mediums any good? As in, the lower tier ones like the Chi-Nu, Chi-Ri, etc.. I've been wanting to try them for ages by now. But everyone makes out the lower tiers to be helplessly useless.

I really liked the Chi-Ri, but that is an acquired taste. Most players dislike it.



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View Postsplash_time, on 07 March 2020 - 09:29 PM, said:

 

Well, the T10 is the hidden jewel in the line. The lower tiers are just meh. 

 

Now I don't mean they are so bad, they are good (for example the T8 second stock gun has 280 mm HEAT which is more than enough in T8), but they are hard to perform well with, except the T10 which has DPM, penetration, gun depression and reliable turret armour.

Ah, so perhaps I just keep the STB-1 line for later? I'll just probably go Italian for now.



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Nice choice but the fun really starts at tiers 8. Best tiers 7 is the american T20 imho.

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bonjour tous , quelqu un peut me dire comment on utilise les suspensions hydrauliques sur l UDES 14 5 merci

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View PostMulaigalo, on 07 March 2020 - 07:50 PM, said:

1. What's a good medium tank line to go down if we exclude Russia? I already have the T-34-85 and I want to hang around tier 6 for a while, so might as well try something different. Thinking Italian or Swedish

Then stick with the italians, T6+7 are pretty easy to use thanks to high alpha and some armor. The swedish line isn't bad, but requires a bit more experience to use effectively.

 

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2. How exactly do you play Russian heavies here? I'm on the KV-1 which I absolutely adore in Blitz, but here it's just very frustrating with +2 MM.

With most heavies you have to evaluate the setups: In a +2 match your armor likely won't help you, so focus on supporting your teammates with your still decent firepower. Don't attempt to engage enemy top-tiers frontally. When you're top-tier on the other hand don't be too afraid to take some shots.

 

View PostMulaigalo, on 07 March 2020 - 07:50 PM, said:

3. Overall, what's a fun line to go down that has effective and fun mid tier tanks? I'm looking for pure fun factor here.

That's very subjective. I'd say french or american lights, but only if you actually like playing lights. I also find most TD lines are also pretty enjoyable at the mid-tiers, but again, that's a personal opinion.

 

View PostMulaigalo, on 07 March 2020 - 07:50 PM, said:

4. Is the Object 268 still a bad T10? It's one of the tanks I want the most.

It's not really competitive. It does have a pretty good gun and decent mobility, but overall it just doesn't have that special feature to distinguish it from the other T10 TDs. If you want alpha and mobility, Grille is a much more flexible platform. If you want raw firepower, go with JPE or Fv4005. If you want a great sniper, get an Strv. You want some armor? Take the 268v4, E3 or the Wz113.

 

View PostMulaigalo, on 07 March 2020 - 07:50 PM, said:

5. What's a good light tank line to go down for campaigns? I understand playing LTs is a bad choice as a beginner, but I must play them for the StuG campaign.

 

For a beginner I'd go with the americans. While the Stuart at T4 is complete crap you don't have to spend much time with it, and the Chaffee as well as T6+7 are all decent lights that are also rather easy to use and don't just rely on camo. Also it gives you the option to later get into the T57 branch.



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American lines might be good for you. AFAIK some good tanks may not survive the coming changes so it would be good to have them in your garage. It would also give you a bit flexibility in play style. If I remember rightly there is some crossover in guns and modules so they're good to run simultaneously. And some really fun tanks. T71DA is mucho fun (and about to be removed?). T29 hull down can give a good account of itself, as can the T20. Can't remember much about the Shermans except that I liked playing them.




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