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Ranger772 #1 Posted 12 March 2020 - 07:51 AM

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ROFL. Another money-making idea from WoT that ruins the game for others.

shikaka9 #2 Posted 12 March 2020 - 08:05 AM

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and the problem is not that P2W exist, but it's denial

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undutchable80 #3 Posted 12 March 2020 - 08:14 AM

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Opening a second thread is ruining it for OCD forumites: http://forum.worldof...wg/page__st__60

Richthoffen #4 Posted 12 March 2020 - 08:48 AM

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318 BP, 50 USSR+50GB blueprints 4 days premium 900k silver, a commander, a 3D style, GLD bounty equipment and some crew books for playing the game for 3 months with some different tanks.. yeah P2W at its best [/sarcasm]

tajj7 #5 Posted 12 March 2020 - 09:47 AM

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Yawn, it's not pay to win. 

 

I have a bonds rammer (amongst other improved equipment), and I have enough bonds to buy 3 more at the moment if I wanted to and I paid no money for them.  

 

I also really would struggle to make any argument that 2.5% reload speed is going to make any meaningful difference to me winning more games.

 

It's very clearly pay to progress, like most things in WOTs are, so stop whinging. 



SlyMeerkat #6 Posted 12 March 2020 - 09:48 AM

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Its an interesting idea but we soon see how the actual games go and seeming its on for a while, i hope not to bad

Dava_117 #7 Posted 12 March 2020 - 11:33 AM

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It's not P2W, but surely is a mean move from WG to put the only useful piece of equipment behind a paywall, even if it's just 250 gold.

tajj7 #8 Posted 12 March 2020 - 01:01 PM

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View PostDava_117, on 12 March 2020 - 10:33 AM, said:

It's not P2W, but surely is a mean move from WG to put the only useful piece of equipment behind a paywall, even if it's just 250 gold.

 

It's stupid they have put the GLD in there at all IMO, paid or not, it's not a commonly used piece of equipment. They must know that the main ones are rammer, v-stab, vents and optics and could have at least chosen two of those. 



Dava_117 #9 Posted 12 March 2020 - 01:08 PM

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View Posttajj7, on 12 March 2020 - 01:01 PM, said:

 

It's stupid they have put the GLD in there at all IMO, paid or not, it's not a commonly used piece of equipment. They must know that the main ones are rammer, v-stab, vents and optics and could have at least chosen two of those. 

 

Indeed. One of the less useful piece of equipment. I think I have it mounted just on my assault TD (from SU-152 to 704) and a couple more TDs and artys.

Sad thing is that it's the same with Tank rewards. I have like 3 GLD in depot that are taking dust waiting for being sold coming from that.

They could have put vents on battle pass, that at least are more used across the tank spectrum.



Miepie #10 Posted 12 March 2020 - 01:39 PM

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View PostDava_117, on 12 March 2020 - 01:08 PM, said:

 

Indeed. One of the less useful piece of equipment. I think I have it mounted just on my assault TD (from SU-152 to 704) and a couple more TDs and artys.

Sad thing is that it's the same with Tank rewards. I have like 3 GLD in depot that are taking dust waiting for being sold coming from that.

They could have put vents on battle pass, that at least are more used across the tank spectrum.

Huh? But in Tank rewards so far you also had the option to pick Rammer + Vents... :amazed:

 

(personally, since I keep all tanks and eventually want all of them to have their own equipment, I can use everything - including GLDs)



eldrak #11 Posted 12 March 2020 - 01:51 PM

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View PostMiepie, on 12 March 2020 - 12:39 PM, said:

Huh? But in Tank rewards so far you also had the option to pick Rammer + Vents... :amazed:

 

(personally, since I keep all tanks and eventually want all of them to have their own equipment, I can use everything - including GLDs)

These are "improved" equipments, they are better than the ones you get for only credits.



24doom24 #12 Posted 12 March 2020 - 02:05 PM

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The only thing I don't like about it is putting the rammer behind the paywall. 

Miepie #13 Posted 12 March 2020 - 02:13 PM

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View Posteldrak, on 12 March 2020 - 01:51 PM, said:

These are "improved" equipments, they are better than the ones you get for only credits.

I know; I was responding to his " Tank rewards. I have like 3 GLD in depot that are taking dust waiting for being sold coming from that. " bit.



tajj7 #14 Posted 12 March 2020 - 02:56 PM

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You also get the improved rammer way quicker on the 'pay' path, it's unlocked at level 20 (conveniently the exact amount of levels the unlock 5000 gold package unlocks) whereas the GLD on the free path isn't unlocked until level 30.

 

But it's still just an improved rammer, you can pick on up for 5k bonds, and don't need to spend 3 million credits on it either. 



Dava_117 #15 Posted 12 March 2020 - 03:02 PM

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View PostMiepie, on 12 March 2020 - 01:39 PM, said:

Huh? But in Tank rewards so far you also had the option to pick Rammer + Vents... :amazed:

 

(personally, since I keep all tanks and eventually want all of them to have their own equipment, I can use everything - including GLDs)

 

You're right. Still I have 3 in depot. Where they come from, I don't know. Surely I didn't buy them. :)



mergus72 #16 Posted 12 March 2020 - 03:04 PM

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Offcourse wg put another pay-to-win aspect to game. Rammer only with gold... Wg time to grow up ffs!!

NUKLEAR_SLUG #17 Posted 12 March 2020 - 03:26 PM

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View Postmergus72, on 12 March 2020 - 03:04 PM, said:

Offcourse wg put another pay-to-win aspect to game. Rammer only with gold... Wg time to grow up ffs!!


Yeah, so pay to win. I challenge you to show us one replay where you can even tell someone has a fancy rammer installed.



ZlatanArKung #18 Posted 12 March 2020 - 03:39 PM

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View Posttajj7, on 12 March 2020 - 01:01 PM, said:

 

It's stupid they have put the GLD in there at all IMO, paid or not, it's not a commonly used piece of equipment. They must know that the main ones are rammer, v-stab, vents and optics and could have at least chosen two of those. 

This is the reason they closed GLD for the free version, because they know most don't use it.

 

But if they pay, they get an equipment they use.

Just a way to sell a useful equipment  (better then rammer) for money.

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View PostNUKLEAR_SLUG, on 12 March 2020 - 03:26 PM, said:


Yeah, so pay to win. I challenge you to show us one replay where you can even tell someone has a fancy rammer installed.

The existence is the issue here.



FatigueGalaxy #19 Posted 12 March 2020 - 05:06 PM

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View Posttajj7, on 12 March 2020 - 09:47 AM, said:

Yawn, it's not pay to win. 

 

I have a bonds rammer (amongst other improved equipment), and I have enough bonds to buy 3 more at the moment if I wanted to and I paid no money for them.  

 

I also really would struggle to make any argument that 2.5% reload speed is going to make any meaningful difference to me winning more games.

 

It's very clearly pay to progress, like most things in WOTs are, so stop whinging. 


No, it's p2w.

It's just 2.5% but it adds up to everything that paying player can use and f2p player can't - camos, directives, food, premium consumables... It's 2.5% here, 2.5% there and suddenly your tank is 10-15% better.

Also, this is just a start. Now we get better equipment for spending money, next time it might be "improved 3D skin", "special decals" with small bonuses to crew, maybe "improved directives" or "high quality food", etc. Maybe the new bounty equipment will get more upgrade levels but for gold only. It's obvious they are testing the waters.



xtrem3x #20 Posted 12 March 2020 - 05:20 PM

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View PostRanger772, on 12 March 2020 - 06:51 AM, said:

ROFL. Another money-making idea from WoT that ruins the game for others.

 

Please explain how paying money for this will make me win more games

If you can't explain this, please learn what "pay to win" means before spouting it all over the place :child:







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