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Electronic_coockie_82 #1 Posted 15 March 2020 - 08:48 PM

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Fixing universal and National Blueprints Fragments 

 

hello everyone This is my first post hope you enjoy it.

 

Does anyone think that there are a few problems with the Fragment system in the game ? I came up with some ideas to fix this and i want to know how does everyone fell about it Please comment your thoughts.

 

I was thinking that some of the tanks in the tech tree are very hard to grind and some players really don't want to play them but they have to because they need the higher tier tanks in the tree and also you can face some difficulties   so I came up with some ideas to Fix these issues:

 

​1. Converting  National Fragments to Universal Fragments:

 

so some players may have already  completed some of the small nation tree like Italy that has only one tree line but in Events they still get the fragments for these nations but the fragments will end up completely useless because every thing is already researched some may not want to research some of the trees at all so they may not need that nations fragments anymore I think players should have the choice of converting National Fragments to Universal Fragments . And if you researched every tank you should be able to sell the Fragments . If wg wants to be very generous they can even allow Universal Fragments to National Fragments.

 

2. buying  Universal Fragments :

 

so because some of the tanks in the game are painful to grind i think there should be a way to buy at least Universal Fragments there were many times that i had national Fragment but not the Universal one to be able to research the tanks  i wanted . To avoid making the game pay to win the blueprint Fragments  should be available to  buy with either bonds so only skilled players can buy them so new players wouldn't reach high tiers with low experience and the skilled players don't have to  play bad tanks and that people wouldn't be allowed to pay for them by real money  or they should be bought with  credits so they are available to everyone and new players don't struggle in low tiers and they wouldn't need to have painful fights with seal clubbers on the battle field so the game would be more fun to pay for the new players and to avoid players just skipping everything by paying money there should be a limit on how much every player can buy For example  100 Fragments per month. 

 

the post has seen a slight change .

What do you think ??   

 


Edited by Electronic_coockie_82, 16 March 2020 - 08:30 AM.


pollie311 #2 Posted 15 March 2020 - 08:50 PM

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GodTank2 #3 Posted 15 March 2020 - 08:55 PM

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The way to go up the tech trees is by playing from low tier to high tier. Blueprints are there to alleviate some of the pain when grinding certain tanks not for people to buy them and just skip all the tech tree. You have to play your way through tech trees else you wont be able to play at a respectable level on tier 10.

Homer_J #4 Posted 15 March 2020 - 09:14 PM

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Yes there should be a way to convert national to universal fragments at a rate of maybe 4:1

 

No they should not be available for real money.



splash_time #5 Posted 15 March 2020 - 10:01 PM

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Just no. Because we'll have those new kind of players that just skips the whole line because he didn't like the appearance of his tank...

 

WG have already made it way easier to reach a TX for new players now, especially with these fragments. 

For me personally, I always loved to grind TVP line, and in Christmas i got national fragments for Czech tanks and I used them all, and  now I regret it....because I won't have any challenge in that line or either a chance to train a good crew. 



Galan7891 #6 Posted 15 March 2020 - 10:38 PM

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View PostGodTank2, on 15 March 2020 - 08:55 PM, said:

 You have to play your way through tech trees else you wont be able to play at a respectable level on tier 10.


And what is the DW2 is supposed to teach?Or any other similar tank?



Nishi_Kinuyo #7 Posted 16 March 2020 - 12:01 AM

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View PostGalan7891, on 15 March 2020 - 10:38 PM, said:


And what is the DW2 is supposed to teach?Or any other similar tank?

Angling and dabbing the 2 key?



1ucky #8 Posted 16 March 2020 - 12:19 AM

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View PostNishi_Kinuyo, on 16 March 2020 - 12:01 AM, said:

Angling and dabbing the 2 key?

I'd say so, yes.

Hull down works great with it, too.

Probably even sidescraping!

#GreatTank :)


Edited by 1ucky, 16 March 2020 - 12:20 AM.


WojtekTheBear #9 Posted 16 March 2020 - 01:29 AM

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Even if you use blueprints to research a tank, you still have to play it, because the module research path must be finished for the previous vehicle. I second the idea to convert national bonds to universal ones.

Spurtung #10 Posted 16 March 2020 - 02:04 AM

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View PostElectronic_coockie_82, on 15 March 2020 - 07:48 PM, said:

​1. turning National Fragments to Universal Fragments:

 

so some players may have already  completed some of the small nation tree like Italy that has only one tree line but in Events they still get the fragments for these nations but the fragments will end up completely useless because every thing is already researched I think players should have the choice of turning National Fragments to Universal Fragments .

 

Right.

 

1) when you have no tanks of a given nation left to unlock you will no longer get national fragments for that nation, just like you won't get tank fragments to tanks you've already unlocked, so that right there is a blatant lie

2) if you were to get such fragments, which you never get to know which it is, they get automatically converted into universal fragments

 

Meaning, your whole point is both a lie and already implemented in the game. Good job, you played yourself.



kaneloon #11 Posted 16 March 2020 - 02:04 AM

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View PostWojtekTheBear, on 16 March 2020 - 12:29 AM, said:

Even if you use blueprints to research a tank, you still have to play it, because the module research path must be finished for the previous vehicle. I second the idea to convert national bonds to universal ones.

 

Yeah but some freeXP can be use. I directtly unlocked the Skoda T50 that way (Caernavon and Pantera too btw) - not so many free XP needed.

And it spares you the pain to play low tiers tanks, retrain crews or move equipements on tanks you don't want to keep.

 

Anyway I agree about converting nationals to universals : universals are much more needed : 3 or 4 times, and some nationals are of no use to u.



Spurtung #12 Posted 16 March 2020 - 02:08 AM

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View PostHomer_J, on 15 March 2020 - 08:14 PM, said:

Yes there should be a way to convert national to universal fragments at a rate of maybe 4:1

 

View PostWojtekTheBear, on 16 March 2020 - 12:29 AM, said:

I second the idea to convert national bonds to universal ones.

 

View Postkaneloon, on 16 March 2020 - 01:04 AM, said:

Anyway I agree about converting nationals to universals : universals are much more needed : 3 or 4 times, and some nationals are of no use to u.

 

 

Why not also the possibility to convert universal to national?


Edited by Spurtung, 16 March 2020 - 02:09 AM.


kaneloon #13 Posted 16 March 2020 - 02:08 AM

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View PostSpurtung, on 16 March 2020 - 01:04 AM, said:

1) when you have no tanks of a given nation left to unlock you will no longer get national fragments for that nation, just like you won't get tank fragments to tanks you've already unlocked, so that right there is a blatant lie

2) if you were to get such fragments, which you never get to know which it is, they get automatically converted into universal fragments

 

Yeah but you still get nationals from events or chrismas tree, and they didn't convert. Maybe yours but not mine.



Spurtung #14 Posted 16 March 2020 - 02:12 AM

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View Postkaneloon, on 16 March 2020 - 01:08 AM, said:

Yeah but you still get nationals from events or chrismas tree, and they didn't convert. Maybe yours but not mine.

 

I did, yeah, and I couldn't even unlock tier 9 and 10 of the ST-II line with those because those 60 were pretty much all I had, despite all the universals in the depot (currently 1692).



So_So_English #15 Posted 16 March 2020 - 05:58 AM

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fixing them?

 

remove them, simples

 

like most of WG changes over last 3 years these blueprints are bad for the game

grind the trees properly and learn the game slowly and improve the low tiers instead of removing them



Love_Thy_Arty #16 Posted 16 March 2020 - 06:11 AM

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I have researched all tanks in the game except one Polish one. Got scores of national BPs and about 1900 universal fragments. I'd me more than happy to sell them and my closer to 200 empty garage slots. 5000 silver a pop would be enough... but WG could always give me 10 gold per fragment or slot too!

Yaccay #17 Posted 16 March 2020 - 06:16 AM

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View Postsplash_time, on 15 March 2020 - 10:01 PM, said:

Just no. Because we'll have those new kind of players that just skips the whole line because he didn't like the appearance of his tank...

 

WG have already made it way easier to reach a TX for new players now, especially with these fragments. 

For me personally, I always loved to grind TVP line, and in Christmas i got national fragments for Czech tanks and I used them all, and  now I regret it....because I won't have any challenge in that line or either a chance to train a good crew. 


Just play them as if nothing happened.

Oh wait..., you mean playing itself is not enjoyable?

Then do not play this game at all.



splash_time #18 Posted 16 March 2020 - 08:28 AM

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View PostYaccay, on 16 March 2020 - 08:16 AM, said:


Just play them as if nothing happened.

Oh wait..., you mean playing itself is not enjoyable?

Then do not play this game at all.

 

Aha, and how you concluded that? Can you teach me how to analys like this? :)

 

First of all, I said I regret spending all the fragments because now i'll only research the guns and turrets, I won't grind for next tank because it's 0 xp. And I don't like this feel, I decided without considering this, and now I'm not happy about it. But I'll grind it anyway because I like the tank.

 

Second, don't reply if you didn't understand what someone's saying. That's some players problem, just mocking other prople. :/ 


Edited by splash_time, 16 March 2020 - 10:34 AM.


Geno1isme #19 Posted 16 March 2020 - 10:24 AM

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Just allow us to sell this crap or convert it into something usable.

demon_tank #20 Posted 25 March 2020 - 05:34 PM

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View PostHomer_J, on 15 March 2020 - 08:14 PM, said:

Yes there should be a way to convert national to universal fragments at a rate of maybe 4:1

 

No they should not be available for real money.

Its a good idea. I want it but i dont care if they implement it or not cause im not feeling entitled.

I disagree about the 4:1 rate. I would make it at least 8:1 , maybe even 10:1. Everyone has tons of them anyways.

 

View Postsplash_time, on 15 March 2020 - 09:01 PM, said:

Just no. Because we'll have those new kind of players that just skips the whole line because he didn't like the appearance of his tank...

They can already do that or play very few battles to get to the next tank.

Fragments + free exp + battle exp boosters + premium account + daily x2/x3/x4/x5 +  5 premium account x5 exp boosters + SH clan battle exp boosters.

 

So whats the problem ?


Edited by demon_tank, 25 March 2020 - 05:35 PM.





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