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ShadowBlackk #1 Posted 18 March 2020 - 05:12 PM

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Please WG make the ranked game at least once fair.. don't let broken  chieftain's and 279(e) in the ranked matches... they are broken as F***, and if you check it out most of the top players in gold are only playing with chieftain and obj279 so i wouldn't call it fair... make it so the only tanks that are available in the tech tree can go in ranked , then it would be somewhat fair.. at least once in this fking crappy life i want to go in ranked without getting demolished by broken tierX (11) tanks.

LZ_Mordan #2 Posted 18 March 2020 - 05:16 PM

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i dont mind them as long as there is an equal number of them on each team.

 

 


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TungstenHitman #3 Posted 18 March 2020 - 05:17 PM

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and SPG

Homer_J #4 Posted 18 March 2020 - 05:45 PM

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Wouldn't be much of a reward then would they?



Sharp1903 #5 Posted 18 March 2020 - 06:11 PM

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Well, Although I have a Chieftain, I agree with you. Because, playing against too much Chieftains, 279E, 260 etc. are really boring. Maybe it should be only tech tree tanks. 

Blubba #6 Posted 18 March 2020 - 06:33 PM

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Or they could just balance them...(assuming they are unbalanced).

LethalWalou #7 Posted 18 March 2020 - 06:37 PM

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View PostHomer_J, on 18 March 2020 - 04:45 PM, said:

Wouldn't be much of a reward then would they?

 

Well you could play them in randoms. The tanks honestly should be taken away from modes that are focused at least a bit on competitive side, such as GM battles and Ranked battles.



NekoPuffer_PPP #8 Posted 18 March 2020 - 06:42 PM

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View PostHomer_J, on 18 March 2020 - 05:45 PM, said:

Wouldn't be much of a reward then would they?

 

In a competitive environment where player skill is what's being ranked, and not the players' tanks, such tanks don't make sense.

 

Know what I mean?

 

Ranked Battles should be limited to tech tree tanks, those available to each player.

 

Allowing blatantly OP vehicles to participate creates disbalance in rankings, and is ultimately unfair for the regular player who doesn't participate in clan wars or doesn't have the time necessary to invest into getting a 279 e.

 

It makes Ranked Battles a place where brawn beats brains. A place where the ability of your equipment matters more than that of your brain. Undesirable.


Edited by NekoPuffer_PPP, 18 March 2020 - 06:42 PM.


R3dBaron #9 Posted 18 March 2020 - 07:01 PM

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Fully agree with OP.

 

+1.

the_nebuchadnezzar #10 Posted 18 March 2020 - 08:50 PM

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I have the 260, 279e and T95/FV. But the tank I use in RB is.... drums... is the GW E100. For real. I found out it is much easy to grind ranks in arty. I had 4 battles when I funished top on XP and many more in top 3 (double chevrons). Of course, there are bad gamea when enemy EBR's yolo the middle of the map and kill you in no time, but overall it's a better experience then playing T95/FV and get focused by everyone. Cheers

splash_time #11 Posted 18 March 2020 - 11:40 PM

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I played it with progetto, and well, not my cup of tea tbh, you must deal damage to tanks in your view range while this tank can't really brawl or bounce reliably. 

I more love to be a brawler such as 268/4, s.conq or either an arty when It gets to facing these, not all teams are able to flank or even win a side of a map and keep or advnce through it. 



SuperOlsson #12 Posted 19 March 2020 - 08:08 AM

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Tried a variety of vehicles yesterday, hade horrible experiences in STB-1, Obj. 430u, B-C25t, Super Conqueror and Obj. 277. The gameplay meta was boring and pretty much consisted of getting grinded down slowly by arty, who thrives in the long battle time of ranked battles. Then i was like "meh", and went for FV215 183, and maaan what a joy! Sure it's far from free to play but at least i can keep my sanity while playing. Quite reliable way of getting chevrons for now, probably won't work in the upper divisions though.

TankkiPoju #13 Posted 19 March 2020 - 08:24 AM

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EBR 105 are even more broken in ranked than 279e or Chieftains.

trispect #14 Posted 19 March 2020 - 08:54 AM

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View PostHomer_J, on 18 March 2020 - 06:45 PM, said:

Wouldn't be much of a reward then would they?

Game mode where it should be about individual skill it doesn't really make sense to give significant competitive edge to only some players. 



SlyMeerkat #15 Posted 19 March 2020 - 10:09 AM

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Thats one of the reasons why i dont play Ranked..... Until they restrict it to Tech Tree only and its fairer that way for everyone, i wont be going nowhere near it because as it is now, completely ruined with all the Reward Tanks, Its bad enough with them in Randoms :/

tajj7 #16 Posted 19 March 2020 - 10:34 AM

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View PostNekoPuffer_PPP, on 18 March 2020 - 05:42 PM, said:

 

In a competitive environment where player skill is what's being ranked, and not the players' tanks, such tanks don't make sense.

 

Know what I mean?

 

Ranked Battles should be limited to tech tree tanks, those available to each player.

 

Allowing blatantly OP vehicles to participate creates disbalance in rankings, and is ultimately unfair for the regular player who doesn't participate in clan wars or doesn't have the time necessary to invest into getting a 279 e.

 

It makes Ranked Battles a place where brawn beats brains. A place where the ability of your equipment matters more than that of your brain. Undesirable.

 

Ranked is not a true measure of player skill anyway, in reality it's just a grind, play enough you'll progress eventually with not playing that well and if you get a bad run of teams you'll lose progress even playing well.

 

Also brawn doesn't beat brains, badly played 279e or Chieftains do badly, and most Chieftains are mirror matched anyway, I see the same amount of both team most of the time and it's hardly like they are invincible tanks, they are just strong hull down tanks. 

 

If you chose a tank that works for you, play it well, you'll progress, people make far too much fuss about the 279e (which you barely see anyway) and the Chieftain, people are NOT progressing because of these tanks, they are not progressing as quickly as they want because of their own play.

 

Particularly considering we have role XP as well, if people are so annoyed about Chieftains then play mediums or lights or TDs that are supposed to snipe or arty or any other tank not competing for the same role and you don;t have to fight them, do well, do your role and you'll earn more chevrons than you lose regardless of Chieftains and 279es.

 

(no one should complain about the rest of the reward tanks they are not OP at all)

 

As usual the community loves excuses as to why they don't do well and then when people latch onto an excuse like an OP tank they then massively over exaggerate it. 

 

If people sat down and reviewed their ranked games, looked at each replay, then they would see they are the vast majority of times not earning/saving chevrons because of either their own poor play or they got a terrible team that folded, not because they are facing Chieftains/279es.

 

I've played 40 games now this season, and I can only think of ONE game that was dominated by a 279e and even then I made a load of errors in that game that lost me a Chevron.  I am rank 11 of the third division, with like a 110% Chevron rate overall and have mainly used the UDES 15/16, I have no trouble doing well against Cheiftains and I have barely seen or had to deal with a 279e. 

 

These tanks don't need banning, it's silly, they need toning down, but that is not going to happen in this years ranked, so people should really stop making a fuss about it and just get on with it, people aren't losing out because they are facing Chieftains and 279es, that is in their head, it's clear confirmation bias. 


Edited by tajj7, 19 March 2020 - 10:36 AM.


trispect #17 Posted 19 March 2020 - 11:21 AM

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View Posttajj7, on 19 March 2020 - 11:34 AM, said:

 

These tanks don't need banning, it's silly, they need toning down, but that is not going to happen in this years ranked, so people should really stop making a fuss about it and just get on with it, people aren't losing out because they are facing Chieftains and 279es, that is in their head, it's clear confirmation bias. 

 

That's the beef. Those tanks are not autowin but it's indisputable that those tanks give player clear edge.  



shikaka9 #18 Posted 19 March 2020 - 11:31 AM

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Everyone should be allowed, no discrimination, it's not 1970s anymore :B

kdaag #19 Posted 19 March 2020 - 11:39 AM

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Well if you want a fair game the following should also be banned in ranked:

 

1. Improved equipment, make that any equipment because some FTP players may not have the right equipment on their tanks.

2. Crew skills, how is it fair to allow 5 skill crews against no Sixth sense...

3. Premium ammo and consumables, yet again some FTP players or noobs may not play with these necessities.

4. Personal experience and skill in WOT. How is it fair that someone that has 1000 games has to play against someone who has 40000 games.

5. All tanks except for 1 per game so that there are no OP tanks in every game. (because WG can't balance their game properly)

 

So instead of whining about Chieftans, 279e:s, 260,907 Arty and EBRs just get them yourself and win every game. (or you can have some of them and just suck like I do)

 

Life is not fair, why should this game be any different?


Edited by kdaag, 19 March 2020 - 11:41 AM.


Tealo #20 Posted 19 March 2020 - 11:45 AM

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View Postkdaag, on 19 March 2020 - 10:39 AM, said:

Well if you want a fair game the following should also be banned in ranked:

 

1. Improved equipment, make that any equipment because some FTP players may not have the right equipment on their tanks.

2. Crew skills, how is it fair to allow 5 skill crews against no Sixth sense...

3. Premium ammo and consumables, yet again some FTP players or noobs may not play with these necessities.

4. Personal experience and skill in WOT. How is it fair that someone that has 1000 games has to play against someone who has 40000 games.

5. All tanks except for 1 per game so that there are no OP tanks in every game. (because WG can't balance their game properly)

 

So instead of whining about Chieftans, 279e:s, 260,907 Arty and EBRs just get them yourself and win every game. (or you can have some of them and just suck like I do)

 

Life is not fair, why should this game be any different?

 

Well I agree with you on the first 3 points (more like in the original/classic Wot :great: well most of the time most players played the game that way) but sorry you lost me on the last 2 :confused: 


Edited by Tealo, 19 March 2020 - 02:03 PM.






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