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LZ_Mordan #1 Posted 19 March 2020 - 11:53 PM

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So i bought that tank with the discounts with the see how bad this tank was.. Actually it should read as  how dishonest WG can be in balancing german tanks.

 

How can you say this tank is balanced? Its worse than the Tier 9 Ru251 that was nerfed to the ground.

 

This tank is utter crap. It does nothing good in a match..  Worse, people on your team laugh at you and say that they bloody lost before the game has begun. So this tank is a MORALE decimator.. It has the WORST stats (win rate, average damage etc) on EU by far!!.

 

Except for the Leopard, all the Tier 10 german tanks average, below average or utter crap!!! I have bought them all except the Panzer VII turd.

 

They are jealous of their engineering or what? Yea we all want to drive german cars.

 

I am playing it in Ranked Battle to get a good opinion of it vs good teams. 6 games. 6 losses.

 

 



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Yes

BravelyRanAway #3 Posted 20 March 2020 - 12:07 AM

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So....you knew what it was like, but bought it anyway, then complain about it.......interesting.

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View PostBravelyRanAway, on 20 March 2020 - 12:07 AM, said:

So....you knew what it was like, but bought it anyway, then complain about it.......interesting.

 

Well if he hadn't bought it, but complained about it first, we would argue he can't comment on what it's like, because he hadn't played it, but now he's played it, so that argument is dead in the water, and we can all agree it's rubbish, except for myself, since I've not played it either, because I've heard many bad reviews of it, so I chose not to waste my time and credits on researching it.

 

Wow that's a lotta commas. :rolleyes:

 

I agree though, German tanks in this game are... bleh



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German tanks on higher tiers in general are okay. its just german lights which are in severe need of buffs

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LZ_Mordan #6 Posted 20 March 2020 - 12:32 AM

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it would be interesting to have the statistics of tanks in ranked battles where people actually play to win..

 

i saw another Rheimmetall Panzerwagen getting obliterated. Some unicum who wanted to try it out?

 

I just got 3 chevrons with the Maus.. I would say the Maus is the only german tank worth having with the Leo.

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View PostKeyhand, on 19 March 2020 - 11:31 PM, said:

German tanks on higher tiers in general are okay. its just german lights which are in severe need of buffs

 

ok.. tell me which german tanks that is seen in ranked battles?

 

the only performing tanks are the leo and the maus.

 

other tanks won't get you on Top 10 in a win, the most important criteria.

 

 



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View PostLZ_Mordan, on 20 March 2020 - 12:32 AM, said:

it would be interesting to have the statistics of tanks in ranked battles where people actually play to win..

 

i saw another Rheimmetall Panzerwagen getting obliterated. Some unicum who wanted to try it out?

 

I just got 3 chevrons with the Maus.. I would say the Maus is the only german tank worth having with the Leo.

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ok.. tell me which german tanks that is seen in ranked battles?

 

the only performing tanks are the leo and the maus.

 

other tanks won't get you on Top 10 in a win, the most important criteria.

 

 

 

VK72 is good, leo1 is unrivaled as well.

Also Germany on tier 9 has some of the strongest tanks availiable.

I dont see a problem.



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View PostBravelyRanAway, on 19 March 2020 - 11:07 PM, said:

So....you knew what it was like, but bought it anyway, then tested his theory on RB, of all places, and then complain about it.......interesting.

 



TankkiPoju #9 Posted 20 March 2020 - 09:13 AM

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I like the part where WG "buffed" flipwagen after release and it was actually a nerf.

 

EDIT: Just bought Leopard 1 yesterday, and it is very strong. Gun is divine. Seems to also work in ranked, but maybe not in later divisions.


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LZ_Mordan #10 Posted 20 March 2020 - 11:12 AM

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View PostKeyhand, on 19 March 2020 - 11:52 PM, said:

 

VK72 is good, leo1 is unrivaled as well.

Also Germany on tier 9 has some of the strongest tanks availiable.

I dont see a problem.

 

VK72 lol the reward tank..

 

compared to 279e?? The Chieftain? You hardly ever see the Vk72.. must be telling.

 

Before the Leo buff, every single German Tier 10 tank was sub par. 

 

Today only the Leopard shines..

 

Who cares about Tier 9 tanks. They are never used in events. Its all about T8 and T10. I am going to buy the new Panzer Corps 2 where German tanks are actually balanced



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View PostLZ_Mordan, on 20 March 2020 - 10:12 AM, said:

 

VK72 lol the reward tank..

 

compared to 279e?? The Chieftain? You hardly ever see the Vk72.. must be telling.

 

Before the Leo buff, every single German Tier 10 tank was sub par. 

 

Today only the Leopard shines..

 

Who cares about Tier 9 tanks. They are never used in events. Its all about T8 and T10. I am going to buy the new Panzer Corps 2 where German tanks are actually balanced

 

Loads of people play tier 9 because it's a sweet spot and better balance than tier 10. Plus he is right, the German tanks on tier 9 are good, E50, E75, Mauchen if you are ok with the speed, PTA, Waffle IV, Jagdtiger has an excellent gun even if the platform is lacking.

 

This 'German tanks are bad' claim is just a myth really, they have loads of good tanks, just because tanks aren't used in some modes doesn't make them bad. Maus and Panzer VII, especially for average players are very strong in randoms, the Leo 1 is excellent, the Grille 15 is decent and the JpE100 well it is what it is because of the alpha damage.

 

Tier 8 lots of good tanks and lots of good premiums and some real gems around the lower tiers. People just expect German tanks to dominate because they did in the early part of the war, but this is a game.  The German tech tree is similar to most other tech trees, a mix of good, average and bad tanks. 

 

The Flip Wagon is terrible, but then so are most tier 10 lights bar the EBR, and yes it's pretty much a joke, whenever I see one I presume someone is either playing it for a meme or wants to handicap themselves and the team. 

 



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People saying the match is lost before it even starts are nothing new, Panzerwagen has nothing to do with it.

 

As for the tank itself, the problem is twofold.

One - EBR 105 driven by any competent player leaves all other Tier 10 LTs jobless.

 

Two - Except EBR 105, all Tier 10 LTs are heavily nerfed mediums.
 

Oh and, the usual - maps are too small for this class of vehicles. What use is a paper scout on Ensk?



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.... and you didnt read anything before buying? :) you can blame only yourself

NUKLEAR_SLUG #14 Posted 20 March 2020 - 04:54 PM

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You don't get any sympathy for buying a tank that you already knew in advance wasn't worth it. That's not on WG, that's on you. 

LethalWalou #15 Posted 20 March 2020 - 05:00 PM

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View Postshikaka9, on 20 March 2020 - 02:06 PM, said:

.... and you didnt read anything before buying? :) you can blame only yourself

 

Actually, he read and knew the tank was bad, yet still bought it and complained.



gitgud_cannot #16 Posted 20 March 2020 - 05:09 PM

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its just my opinion, but its not worse than ru 251, they are pretty much equally bad.

whole german lt line from tier 6 is just bad thats all.

i might even consider grinding manticore, just because it has good camo values, unlike rhm pzw and sheridan.



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View Postpihip, on 20 March 2020 - 11:58 AM, said:

One - EBR 105 driven by any competent player leaves all other Tier 10 LTs jobless.

 

Two - Except EBR 105, all Tier 10 LTs are heavily nerfed mediums.
 

Oh and, the usual - maps are too small for this class of vehicles. What use is a paper scout on Ensk?

 

EBR 105 isn't for noobs and requires either natural skill or dedication and brain to learn how to play well.  I'm a competent and experienced LT player but quite incompetent with the EBR. Driving, firing controls and tactics are quite different to LT play.

 

T100 plays like a genuine Tier 10 LT to me. It has speed, camo and agility which far exceeds meds and pen/alpha/rof which is far worse than meds.

 

I agree wz132-1 and Sheridan are rubbish meds. Rhm Pzw is too bad to be even called a rubbish med.

 

View Postgitgud_cannot, on 20 March 2020 - 04:09 PM, said:

its just my opinion, but its not worse than ru 251, they are pretty much equally bad.

whole german lt line from tier 6 is just bad thats all.

i might even consider grinding manticore, just because it has good camo values, unlike rhm pzw and sheridan.

 

This ^^^ (but not bit about manticore. I'm not mad.)

 

Paper meds vs wheelchairs is just a bad joke.

 

ps why does HWK30 have 10 degrees depression over the front while RU251 still only has 6 (5.8 actually according to tanks gg)?



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View PostNUKLEAR_SLUG, on 20 March 2020 - 03:54 PM, said:

You don't get any sympathy for buying a tank that you already knew in advance wasn't worth it. That's not on WG, that's on you. 

 

Only he is not complaining about buying a worthless tank. He bought the tank so he could have a legit opinion about the tank.



Solstad1069 #19 Posted 20 March 2020 - 05:49 PM

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OP, where have you been the last year? EBR 105 is the only tier 10 light worth having, thought everyone knew this.
(well, 98,7% obiously) :P

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Trashmetal Flipoverwagen is really a bad joke of a tank. Its really a shame as its absolutely gorgeously looking tank, for me maybe even best looking tier X light (competes with derp sheridan). Now I am kinda sadomasochystic player that likes tanks like Churchill, Black Prince, Tiger II, ... but this was too much even for me. It was still playable a bit before the EBR 105 turn on move in 100 km/h rubber armor autoaim HE you came to the game. Now its GG, if you log this and enemy team gets EBR. But then again you can still flip yourself before enemy EBR can threaten you :trollface:




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