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STB-1 or UDES 15/16?


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Poll: STB-1 or UDES 15/16? (57 members have cast votes)

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Which of the following would you recommend, and why?

  1. STB-1 (34 votes [59.65%])

    Percentage of vote: 59.65%

  2. UDES 15/16 (23 votes [40.35%])

    Percentage of vote: 40.35%

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Nikka_Katajainen #1 Posted 21 March 2020 - 11:24 PM

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Currently interested in both of these tanks but with credits never being enough I'll have to prioritize one over the other for the time being.

STB-1 seems one of the stronger mediums right now, and I'm more interested in it (have been since its introduction to be honest, it's a bloody JGSDF Type 74 :izmena: ), but UDES might be more user friendly with its higher alpha and possibly (?) better armor profile (not sure about this one though, the sloping looks worse compared to UDES 16).

Please cast a vote in the poll and, if you feel like it, drop a comment about your choice - why you picked what you picked, and why you recommend it over the other choice. :)

 


 



DuncaN_101 #2 Posted 22 March 2020 - 12:09 AM

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i got the Udes right now and the reason i ground it was because i already had the other 2 lines fully ground out so the med line was an easy thing to do.

its a nice comfortable tank to drive and puts out its damage quite well.

 

at the moment i'm grinding the STB line so i have no input on that one.

but i don't think there is a wrong chooice here :) wich ever one you take.



Nishi_Kinuyo #3 Posted 22 March 2020 - 12:26 AM

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Well, how to put it...

They both try to fulfil the same battlefield role, roughly speaking.

 

So for the STB-1 you got:

More DPM, better penetration, better shell normalisation, better shell velocity, better goldpen, better gun handling (bloom and aimtime), better gun depression (-14 vs. -12), better traverse speed, better speed (I think?), better view range, turret armour that doesn't rely on angle, better hydropneumatic suspension activation speeds (I think?), 4 crew members.

 

For the UDES you got:

Alpha, module damage, calibre (overmatches 35mm), dispersion, gun elevation, no cupola weakspot, lower profile.

 

So imo, the STB-1 is probably better all-round, but the UDES in specific situations.



demon_tank #4 Posted 22 March 2020 - 01:12 AM

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I dont get those kind of questions honestly.

You even implied you ll get both eventually so which one you buy first is IRRELEVANT unless there is or there will be some kind of Discount going only for one of them.



gitgud_cannot #5 Posted 22 March 2020 - 02:08 AM

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stb-1 by far the best choice, udes 15/16 is just not as flexible, both of turrets will get penetrated, udes 15/16 doesnt have some kind of impenetrable turret armor, i would take stb-1 over udes 15/16 any day.

NekoPuffer_PPP #6 Posted 22 March 2020 - 02:21 AM

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STB-1 is mental. Great mobility, turns like crazy and has great DPM, with great gun depression. Poking ridgelines and flanking are a piece of cake.

tajj7 #7 Posted 22 March 2020 - 08:22 AM

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UDES 15/16 for me, STB-1 turret still doesn't work, whereas UDES needs premium ammo in a specific spot otherwise it will bounce a lot.

 

Plus UDES has the alpha and amazing camo.

 

It's basically like a 430U with more gun depression but worse heat pen. 

 

You see more UDES in ranked for a reason. 



Nikka_Katajainen #8 Posted 22 March 2020 - 09:09 AM

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View Postdemon_tank, on 22 March 2020 - 01:12 AM, said:

I dont get those kind of questions honestly.

You even implied you ll get both eventually so which one you buy first is IRRELEVANT unless there is or there will be some kind of Discount going only for one of them.

 

It's not irrelevant. I don't know if you are swimming in coins like Scrooge McDuck does, but with how easy it is to unlock stuff these days there's never enough credits to buy everything. Also, others have helpfully pointed out that both these tanks fulfill the same role in the field, albeit differently, meaning I can pick one and ignore the other.


Edited by pihip, 22 March 2020 - 09:10 AM.


G01ngToxicCommand0 #9 Posted 22 March 2020 - 10:51 AM

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STB-1 because it is not Swedish.

PanTHeR_HuN #10 Posted 22 March 2020 - 11:08 AM

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I am playing udes 16 now and I think it is very good tank because of its sloppy design and I like its design a lot. If you know who has got the big gun or big caliber then you can know who is going to pen you at the battle.

Nikka_Katajainen #11 Posted 22 March 2020 - 12:31 PM

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View PostG01ngToxicCommand0, on 22 March 2020 - 10:51 AM, said:

STB-1 because it is not Swedish.

 

Do you have something against Sweden? :trollface::)



ValkyrionX_TV #12 Posted 22 March 2020 - 01:34 PM

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stb ofc

G01ngToxicCommand0 #13 Posted 22 March 2020 - 03:31 PM

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View Postpihip, on 22 March 2020 - 12:31 PM, said:

 

Do you have something against Sweden? :trollface::)


Only the TDs



Nikka_Katajainen #14 Posted 22 March 2020 - 04:57 PM

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View PostG01ngToxicCommand0, on 22 March 2020 - 03:31 PM, said:

Only the TDs


Understandable, I've learned to despise the wedges as of late, the only saving grace being that their alpha is low compared to other TDs.



demon_tank #15 Posted 23 March 2020 - 01:07 AM

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View Postpihip, on 22 March 2020 - 08:09 AM, said:

 

It's not irrelevant. I don't know if you are swimming in coins like Scrooge McDuck does, but with how easy it is to unlock stuff these days there's never enough credits to buy everything. Also, others have helpfully pointed out that both these tanks fulfill the same role in the field, albeit differently, meaning I can pick one and ignore the other.

You re not making any sense buddy.

 

First of all anyone who has problems with credits really deserves it, its beyond me how anyone could manage to have that.

 

Now since you implied you ll get both and why wouldnt you ? then its naturally irrelevant which to get first.

 

Maybe you should have said "im only gonna get 1" and then i would have gave my opinion on which is better ignoring the fact that its a moronic false dilemma since you ll eventually get credits to buy the other as well as YOU SHOULD.

 

Again if you re struggling with credits you re doing something wrong and thus you deserve it.

 

And since you asked, yes im sitting on 180+ million credits after i bought around 10 new tanks (tiers 5-9) with the current discounts.


Edited by demon_tank, 23 March 2020 - 01:08 AM.


von_Stokovsky #16 Posted 23 March 2020 - 09:12 AM

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View Postdemon_tank, on 23 March 2020 - 01:07 AM, said:

You re not making any sense buddy.

 

First of all anyone who has problems with credits really deserves it, its beyond me how anyone could manage to have that.

 

Now since you implied you ll get both and why wouldnt you ? then its naturally irrelevant which to get first.

 

Maybe you should have said "im only gonna get 1" and then i would have gave my opinion on which is better ignoring the fact that its a moronic false dilemma since you ll eventually get credits to buy the other as well as YOU SHOULD.

 

Again if you re struggling with credits you re doing something wrong and thus you deserve it.

 

And since you asked, yes im sitting on 180+ million credits after i bought around 10 new tanks (tiers 5-9) with the current discounts.

First of all anyone who has problems with credits really deserves it, its beyond me how anyone could manage to have that.

Have you considered that certain people don't have premium account, potentialy not even a tier 8 premium to grind credits? Sure, you could say that it's his fault that he does not spend a dime on a game, however, he did come to the forums to try and manage his finances smartly. Can you blame him for that?

Playing tier IX Standard B, a tank in which i very rarely load prem ammo, I can profit ~10k credits per game without prem account. However, I doubt it that a normal player, who is not a unicum, can. You can imagine how it goes for other tier IX tanks, let alone for tier X ones.

Now since you implied you ll get both and why wouldnt you ? then its naturally irrelevant which to get first.

He will get both, but he most likely wants to get the better deal first. Would you prefer to have a worse tank first and find yourself wanting to play the other? Perhaps he wont even want the other one after he buys the first.

 

Next time, please, consider that we arent all the same and dont be an [edited]to a person who came here for help reasonably.

 

 


Edited by von_Stokovsky, 23 March 2020 - 09:12 AM.


Nikka_Katajainen #17 Posted 23 March 2020 - 10:51 AM

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View Postdemon_tank, on 23 March 2020 - 01:07 AM, said:

You re not making any sense buddy.

 

First of all anyone who has problems with credits really deserves it, its beyond me how anyone could manage to have that.

 

Now since you implied you ll get both and why wouldnt you ? then its naturally irrelevant which to get first.

 

Maybe you should have said "im only gonna get 1" and then i would have gave my opinion on which is better ignoring the fact that its a moronic false dilemma since you ll eventually get credits to buy the other as well as YOU SHOULD.

 

Again if you re struggling with credits you re doing something wrong and thus you deserve it.

 

And since you asked, yes im sitting on 180+ million credits after i bought around 10 new tanks (tiers 5-9) with the current discounts.


I couldn't care less about your situation, this thread is not about you. If all you came here for is to show off and talk smack then scram, I've got little time to waste on [edited]swingers.



RSA_TriHard_7 #18 Posted 23 March 2020 - 12:37 PM

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Bought the STB yesterday and i prefer it over Udes the Udes gun is really derpy.

Tilly042 #19 Posted 23 March 2020 - 01:54 PM

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Even for someone like me who gets progressively more drunk (and worse) as I play, the STB1 is great and on a ridge with its relatively good turret can be quite forgiving for my foolish play.  I have both and for me, the STB1 is more of a hoot.

Cobra6 #20 Posted 24 March 2020 - 10:13 AM

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I don't own the UDES yet but I do really love the STB-1, only drawback it has is that it takes massive arty HE damage which is a little annoying.

 

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