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Community #1 Posted 25 March 2020 - 06:00 AM

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A fast, accurate, and mobile TD is hidden in the bushes but you can spot it in the Premium Shop.

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wsatnutter #2 Posted 25 March 2020 - 07:08 AM

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its a tad dear

8126Jakobsson #3 Posted 25 March 2020 - 07:14 AM

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Picked one up from the tech tree when it was discounted. I quite like it. 

O_o_Babbuino #4 Posted 25 March 2020 - 09:23 AM

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THEY SEE ME ROLLIN' offer = page not found :D C'mon WG
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and it would have been great if I could use x5 boosters whenever I decide to, not when it is a victory + top 10

 

 



KINGxTOG #5 Posted 25 March 2020 - 10:55 AM

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its good tank but the same old 390 alpha i would rather go for the

WZ-120-1G FT

its better every way

and you can assult

 



Simona2k #6 Posted 25 March 2020 - 11:22 AM

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could be a better tank

SlyMeerkat #7 Posted 25 March 2020 - 11:32 AM

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I shall give it a pass for now

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Tilly042 #8 Posted 25 March 2020 - 11:41 AM

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Thankfully I had the opportunity to play it as a rental.  As such, I now know I won't be wasting money on it :)



Jumping_Turtle #9 Posted 25 March 2020 - 11:51 AM

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Love the shell speed on this tank

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View PostTilly042, on 25 March 2020 - 10:41 AM, said:

Thankfully I had the opportunity to play it as a rental.  As such, I now know I won't be wasting money on it :)

Me too! Chinese WZ premm tier 8 is 10x better than this pice of „kaku"! Enyone who don't have this TD - don't buy it, it's not worth...



Gremlin182 #11 Posted 25 March 2020 - 12:31 PM

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Its pretty good if you can make none turreted vehicles work for you.

the camo is great, speed pretty decent, armour can work at times you are not brawling so ideally shouldn't get seen or hit.

Shell speed good pen good dispersion very good.

 

I have this the Kanonen 105 and the WZ 120 FT and its hard to choose between them.

 

Kanaonen is the fastest but least wrmoured

WZ has 20 extra view range and overall the highest DPM

AMX has the better gun handling.

They are all pretty stealthy.

https://tanks.gg/com...105~wz-120-1-ft

 

Still want an Emil 1951 though so make that next on the list

 

 

 

 


Edited by Gremlin182, 25 March 2020 - 12:54 PM.


falcon_96 #12 Posted 25 March 2020 - 01:03 PM

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You want to fap in a bush with high pen and good shell velocity? Get an S1.
You want to actually be able to assault and blast people in the face for 440 every 8 seconds? Get a WZ-120-1G FT.

The Cda seems just... meh! Not a bad tank, but not a very good one either. It is one of those tanks i would pick for credits in a black market event, but spending gold or cash on it? Nah.

MajorTom_7000 #13 Posted 25 March 2020 - 02:15 PM

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This is the only tier 8 premium I have purchased (when it was discounted around Christmas). I have about 500 battles in it, and use it as a money maker, so I only fire standard ammo.

 

I have a 50 percent win rate in it with a 4 skill crew do about 1100 damage per game. Ill wager that those with higher damage stats than me generally fired gold.

 

My main criticism of it is that the gun has the accuracy of a tier 1 potato launcher. It is the least accurate gun of any tank I have (along with the Challenger). In order to hit any enemies you have to wait for the whole enemy tank to be exposed, no point firing at weak points, and even then it only actually penetrates one third of the time. So broadly speaking in a typical game fire 12 shots, pen 3 or 4, 4 crit hits or bounces and 4 misses. Remember that it has a 12 second reload.So thats 2 minutes of continuous firing to land 3 or  4 shots. Thats when fully aimed and without moving the reticule. I have shaky hands and any slight movement of the aim causes massive bloom on some hidden variable and a guaranteed miss. Though I did eventually swap out the cammo net for a gun rammer to bring it down to a 10 second reload.

 

Also worth noting is that the ammo type means that the shells travel fast, but only pens if it hits the flat side on part of the armor, so wont pen most turrets. Someone said that the 260 pen of this was about equivalent to 220 of normal ap standard ammo, Im not sure its that high !

 

The length of reload is about the same as the spotted time.If you have the cammo skill on all crew it is quite stealthy, but not if you fire. So the simple way to tell if you have been spotted is to check when you pressed the fire button. If you pressed fire, you have been spotted.

So find a ridgeline, fire at the enemy, duck backwards wait for the reload then move into slightly different firing position, and repeat.

 

It has some armor when the gun is pointing down at the enemy, but none on the flat.

 

There are 2 ways to shoot at the enemy, 1 is where they are very far away, and you are "attempting" to snipe them, the other is when they are close and you are spinning the whole td around, it has a very small left to right gun traverse, so they have to be close enough that the bloom caused by rotating the tank doesnt matter.

 

So just had a game where I did 1300 damage and won and got 26k profit if non premium account or 43k with premium account.

Just did another game where I lost did 1800 damage and would have made 22k non premium account or 40k premium.So probably 16 to 22k per game is about what to expect as a credit maker, considering I average 1100 damage per game firing standard ammo.
 

 

Overall I would say that it is probably slightly disappointing, like most tech tree premiums. For fun I prefer my Su 100Y, which is a tier 6 premium with a similar gun, but which I play at close quarters and averages 800 damage per game, but I think the tier 8s make more money even if they do the same damage as a tier 6.

 

P.s. It looks quite good with the lobster "heavy present" Christmas cammo. Can anyone post a pic with that cammo, as I dont have imgur or similar?

 

Anyway, I hope someone finds this post helpful.


Edited by MajorTom_7000, 25 March 2020 - 03:59 PM.


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View PostO_o_HugO, on 25 March 2020 - 09:23 AM, said:

THEY SEE ME ROLLIN' offer = page not found :D C'mon WG

 

Some offers/pages just take a while to become available. :)

 

Thank you all for your feedback!



guest273 #16 Posted 25 March 2020 - 02:29 PM

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Swift and Stealthy Assault:

 



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View PostKINGxTOG, on 25 March 2020 - 10:55 AM, said:

its good tank but the same old 390 alpha i would rather go for the

WZ-120-1G FT

its better every way

and you can assult

 

 

Certainly this TD seems quite powerful with a good crew, food and proper equipment. However, the aim time of 2.78 seconds with a 100% crew does not look that appealing. Suppose one would equip it with a gun rammer, binoculars and a camo net but no food. God forbid you then place a 75% crew in it. Then the aim time should I'd guess be above 3 seconds which may not be very enjoyable for everyone. Granted, this should be a minor and temporary issue in most cases but it's something to keep in mind anyway.


Edited by Ulodwor, 25 March 2020 - 05:30 PM.


8126Jakobsson #18 Posted 25 March 2020 - 06:41 PM

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View PostMajorTom_7000, on 25 March 2020 - 02:15 PM, said:

do about 1100 damage per game. Ill wager that those with higher damage stats than me generally fired gold.

 

Well I do twice as much on average and wager that It's due to experience; knowing where to go and when, which fights to take and which are best to be left alone for some other time. I like its standard ammo and have never been a fan of HEAT, so as I see it there's not much to be gained by tapping that 2-key with this tank. It's fast enough to find a better angle if needed. I type this because you seem to think that you don't have much more to improve. There's always room for improvement, if that's of interest.



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View Post8126Jakobsson, on 25 March 2020 - 05:41 PM, said:

Well I do twice as much on average and wager that It's due to experience; knowing where to go and when, which fights to take and which are best to be left alone for some other time. I like its standard ammo and have never been a fan of HEAT, so as I see it there's not much to be gained by tapping that 2-key with this tank. It's fast enough to find a better angle if needed. I type this because you seem to think that you don't have much more to improve. There's always room for improvement, if that's of interest.

 

I haven't played it since I 3-Marked it awhile back, and I barely fired HEAT In it back then either since similarly I just don't trust HEAT (especially in a sniper TD, where it's harder to reduce the risk of hitting spaced or something). I averaged just over 2.4k damage with some 400 Assistance (the Marks mod says it's 2728 For the 3rd Mark, but since I haven't played it I'm sure this has changed. Still, should be well up your alley Jakobs). Funnily enough the CDA Was the first tank I started running food on actively just to increase the pitiful DPM, and I now do the same with the Kanonen 105, British Lights and so on.

 

CDA Is a solid and fun TD, but IMO It really deserves a DPM Buff or something. It and the Kanonen 105 Feel like they were designed for an older meta where high pen, high accurate guns were not allowed to have DPM; but look at the game we have now, with actual autoloaders like the Italians rolling around or the Swedges with better accuracy, pen and DPM, the CDA/Kanonen just feel like awkward older guys trying to fit in with all the new kids on the block.



MajorTom_7000 #20 Posted 25 March 2020 - 08:54 PM

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 Well I do twice as much on average

 

So if you do 2200 damage that would put you at number 4 out of 350 players this month in the hall of fame, so you pretty much are in the top 1 percent. (Fun fact, only 1 person in the top 1 percent has managed to destroy more than 1.5 tanks per battle on average!)

So what tips do you have for playing it ? This is the one I am most interested in. For example do you mostly play it as long range sniper or close or medium range ?

 

What equipment, crew skills do you run, how many crew skills do you have, do they have bia ?

(I run gun laying drive, rammer, binocs). I dont have bia, so for my driver say I have cammo, smooth ride, off road driving, clutch bracking, the gun gets damaged a fair bit, so for gunner I have cammo, snap shot, repairs, armorer.

I dont generally feel the need to aim super fast as Im mostly hidden when aiming, but maybe Im doing it wrong !

 

Do you run food ?

 

Also what tank do you use it as crew trainer for ? I have it for s35ca as Ive heard the higher tier french anti tanks arent much use.

 

If you were using it to make money would you still be able to get the same damage per game ?

 

Sorry for all the questions, but Id love to know how to play it better.

 

Also for those interested from its money making potential, my best game in today gave 74000 profit (with premium) (44000 non premium), from 2600 damage on a win.

My worst round, 7000 (premium) -23 credits (non premium) 400 damage, defeat. Shots fired 7, direct hit 7, penetrations 1. Still at least it hit them for a change.


Edited by MajorTom_7000, 25 March 2020 - 09:04 PM.





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