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Makroros_The_Arty_Magnet #1 Posted 09 April 2020 - 02:52 PM

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WG, seriously.
I know thee are many people playing, but the LAG is stupid recently.
EU1 and 2 Have for LONG time before the pandemic been problematic.
My Ookla currently show ping of 30 and 25Mb Dl/Ul. Occasionally it goes to 55Dl.
Files dl superfast, twitch works, all is fine.
Except Your game!
Why don't You finally set up EU3? Not enough premium tanks sold to buy more servers?
You can do it, you know how, you have the resources to do it, and without much dent of the budget.
I really annoys me, and I ask on comms, others in guild confirm having simillar lag issues.

Edited by Makroros_The_Arty_Magnet, 09 April 2020 - 02:53 PM.


Balc0ra #2 Posted 09 April 2020 - 03:17 PM

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View PostMakroros_The_Arty_Magnet, on 09 April 2020 - 02:52 PM, said:

EU1 and 2 Have for LONG time before the pandemic been problematic.

Why don't You finally set up EU3? Not enough premium tanks sold to buy more servers?

 

Considering we were down to 75K before the lockdowns started. Then it's not a population issue that an EU3 will fix once this calms down. I've not had an issue until the pandemic. As my ping is normally 25 to 35 on EU2. Now it's 55 to 65 on a good day, and close to 85 Sundays. I've had plotter traces running most days. It starts at my ISP, them jumps even higher when it gets to Germany. So even if EU3 came up. It won't fix anything for most, inc me.

 

View PostMakroros_The_Arty_Magnet, on 09 April 2020 - 02:52 PM, said:

Except Your game!

 

Well, most games are the same for me in terms of ping spikes. But... lag spikes are only here. Why? Because it's the only game I play that runs everything by the server, and thus your client does rely on everything, inc movement to come from the server at the same time. And when you have a 200K server and several bad overworked hamsters between you and WG. Data loss will occur way more often then in other games. CSGO hardly runs anything by the server, thus the others lag when that happens, not you.

 



Doozerr #3 Posted 09 April 2020 - 03:17 PM

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You ran pingplotter right ?

 

Can't be the servers as I have had no lag all day/week



Makroros_The_Arty_Magnet #4 Posted 09 April 2020 - 04:10 PM

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View PostDoozerr, on 09 April 2020 - 02:17 PM, said:

You ran pingplotter right ?

 

Can't be the servers as I have had no lag all day/week


what does pingplotter do?

edit: also, "I don't lag so it cannot be WG fault" is an argument worth as much as "I don't feel wet, so water can't exist"


Edited by Makroros_The_Arty_Magnet, 09 April 2020 - 04:29 PM.


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View PostDoozerr, on 09 April 2020 - 03:17 PM, said:

You ran pingplotter right ?

 

Can't be the servers as I have had no lag all day/week

I had lag on EU1 earlier today.  No issues until then. 

Pingplotter is showing issues at the final WG node - worse on EU2 than 1.  Haven't been playing the last few hours so don't know if it's an issue in game.



Makroros_The_Arty_Magnet #6 Posted 09 April 2020 - 04:15 PM

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View PostBalc0ra, on 09 April 2020 - 02:17 PM, said:

. As my ping is normally 25 to 35 on EU2. Now it's 55 to 65 on a good day, and close to 85 Sundays.

 

Ye, how about 100-200 and more on average, with spikes, which means game runs "smoothly" untill it doesn't and you get this annoying freeze for 0.5-1sec that ffs u up on turning, shooting, enemies pop in and out before lag ends. Not to mention any spike instantly DELETES your aiming time, making the aiming circle larger than my 50" monitor. It literally goes on wall. It is the worst part of lag - the aiming recitle explosion. No matter how aimed u were, now U are at 0 aim.
And also usually I run 20-30 ms. And im used to this game play. I cannot play at 100+ or 200+ or even worse, with those crazy spikes.
I know some people are used to 100, but they played this game all time at a 100 and learned to adjust already, they also probably don't get glitches like I do now. I am used to aiming, leading at say 30-40. It's fine. 200? not fine it screwes with everything i try to do.
I've been saying it for years, and more and more recently - Time for EU3. It's not gonna bankrupt WG.


Edited by Makroros_The_Arty_Magnet, 09 April 2020 - 04:17 PM.


unhappy__bunny #7 Posted 09 April 2020 - 04:39 PM

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Pingplotter shows the various nodes between you and the Server. It shows where bottlenecks occur that delay the data packets between you and the server and back again. 

As to other games, you may not notice problems because of the way they are structured, however, I can say that today, playing Stellaris was laggy. Game stops for a few seconds, total freeze, but because it is not worked the same way as WoT and because its not so graphics orientated, it doesn't matter too much, and it isn't as time dependant as WoT.

There are plenty of websites out there that will register problems with other applications and games. With the current situation in the world, it is natural that more and more people are using the Internet, and that extra usage is inevitably going to cause problems.

An extra server will only help IF it is definitely a server overload, but will make no difference IF it is an Internet overload. 



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Russian servers lagg as well.

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View PostMakroros_The_Arty_Magnet, on 09 April 2020 - 01:52 PM, said:

WG, seriously.
I know thee are many people playing, but the LAG is stupid recently.
EU1 and 2 Have for LONG time before the pandemic been problematic.
My Ookla currently show ping of 30 and 25Mb Dl/Ul. Occasionally it goes to 55Dl.
Files dl superfast, twitch works, all is fine.
Except Your game!
Why don't You finally set up EU3? Not enough premium tanks sold to buy more servers?
You can do it, you know how, you have the resources to do it, and without much dent of the budget.
I really annoys me, and I ask on comms, others in guild confirm having simillar lag issues.

lets have some pingplotter results so we might be able to help



Echotun #10 Posted 09 April 2020 - 05:30 PM

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View PostMakroros_The_Arty_Magnet, on 09 April 2020 - 04:10 PM, said:


what does pingplotter do?

edit: also, "I don't lag so it cannot be WG fault" is an argument worth as much as "I don't feel wet, so water can't exist"


My internet works fine. Ive been playing tons of WOT lately, with no lags. 
 

YOU have lots of lags?

 

Must be WGs fault...



Makroros_The_Arty_Magnet #11 Posted 09 April 2020 - 05:47 PM

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View PostEchotun, on 09 April 2020 - 04:30 PM, said:


My internet works fine. Ive been playing tons of WOT lately, with no lags. 
 

YOU have lots of lags?

 

Must be WGs fault...


if u ever bothered with "reading" - i know, foreign concent to u, you'd read that i asked people on comms in sh and they all said their lag is bad for months now, compared to what it was before. and even worse since pandemic.



Makroros_The_Arty_Magnet #12 Posted 09 April 2020 - 06:08 PM

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Fun story: since WoT is laggy i started the DL of Moo, which WG have generously given for free to all who play WoT.
My ping in game changed from 100 to 150-200. And Moo is going at 4MB/s. Still think it's my net?

unhappy__bunny #13 Posted 09 April 2020 - 07:18 PM

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View PostMakroros_The_Arty_Magnet, on 09 April 2020 - 05:08 PM, said:

Fun story: since WoT is laggy i started the DL of Moo, which WG have generously given for free to all who play WoT.
My ping in game changed from 100 to 150-200. And Moo is going at 4MB/s. Still think it's my net?


We don't think it's your net, its the Internet. The same Internet that we all use. It is just that in certain regions the infrastructure sometimes fails or gets congested. If your data passes through those regions it gets delayed and you see lag. That is why some people get lag and other don't. You can have a 300Gbs connection to your ISP, but that does not make it 300Gbs all the way to the server.



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View PostMakroros_The_Arty_Magnet, on 09 April 2020 - 06:08 PM, said:

Fun story: since WoT is laggy i started the DL of Moo, which WG have generously given for free to all who play WoT.
My ping in game changed from 100 to 150-200. And Moo is going at 4MB/s. Still think it's my net?

 

Yes, probably it is your connection. With current world situation it is more likely than anything else, given the total lack of analysis on the your part.

 

The download server and WoT server are not necessarily at the same location. 



Makroros_The_Arty_Magnet #15 Posted 09 April 2020 - 11:13 PM

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View PostSlyspy, on 09 April 2020 - 06:32 PM, said:

 

Yes, probably it is your connection. With current world situation it is more likely than anything else, given the total lack of analysis on the your part.

 

The download server and WoT server are not necessarily at the same location. 


Except that I play the game and see people complain about lag and ping in chat?
As I said, generally people I hear tell me that lag has been becoming an issue over the last months-year or so.
But they don't spend any time on the forums, unlike some crusaders who have less games than posts defending WG at all cost.


Edited by Makroros_The_Arty_Magnet, 09 April 2020 - 11:15 PM.


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View PostMakroros_The_Arty_Magnet, on 09 April 2020 - 10:13 PM, said:


Except that I play the game and see people complain about lag and ping in chat?
As I said, generally people I hear tell me that lag has been becoming an issue over the last months-year or so.
But they don't spend any time on the forums, unlike some crusaders who have less games than posts defending WG at all cost.

The only players I see complaining about lag and ping in chat?

   Are obviously using mods is that blunt enough for you>?>



Louni_81 #17 Posted 20 April 2020 - 08:35 PM

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Hello every one,

 

For 3 weeks now, every night it has been almost impossible for me to play WOT.
I have big lag problems, which according to PingPlotter don't come from my internet but from a node in Germany (see picture below).
I have micro lags that make me miss targets and lose my aim.
Is there a way to correct this problem?

Thank you for your support.

 


 



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me who plays with 150 ping 

 

 

 

 

 

PATHETIC!!!!!!!!!



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View PostMakroros_The_Arty_Magnet, on 09 April 2020 - 04:15 PM, said:

I've been saying it for years, and more and more recently - Time for EU3. It's not gonna bankrupt WG.

 

You can say anything for years, it does not make it true.  And you would need to provide evidence for the non-bankrupcy statement.



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Server side architecture is silly, bring game match logic to the client. Free those Servers from burden and load. Let them free! 

Look what happened to Google Stadia, nobody likes it, stop developing WOT like it's some office 98 running via Citrix in some bank branch. 







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