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WindSplitter1 #1 Posted 23 April 2020 - 08:19 PM

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Although there are such threads already, this aims to have another perspective.

 

After reading that there was a silent nerf on the EBRs, as someone who prefers to put things to a test, check multiple sources and then draw own conclusions, I decided to play my current EBR 105 and 75.

All of this is on Rapid Mode (RM).

 

EBR 75

Didn't notice any change whatsoever. The vehicle retains it's "U-Turn ability" as some described. No speed loss while turning, no nothing.

The vehicle remains consistently on the 70-80km/h range. One must also bear in mind this is a premium vehicle so, the changes WG can do to it are limited.

 

That was, however, after playing the EBR 105.

 

EBR 105

Forward, the vehicle does seem more agile while turning either side from a straight line while on RM than before. I don't play it very frequently as other lines are taking precedence at the moment.

Then I tested what people were saying: U-Turns bleed a tremendous amount of speed.

 

So, from a 90km/h straight line:

1 - Forward, disengage cruise control/releasing ""

2 - Apply full "←" or "→"

3 - After the required amount of turn is achieved, engage cruise control/hold "" again.

 

The vehicle goes from 90/km/h to down to 60km/h (but not below this value). This is a huge difference for such a fast vehicle and, again - despite I don't play it that often - I think I would've noticed it.

 

However, this is what it feels like and what I think, which are NOT objective conclusions, nor have much evidence to support them (such as a definite "Yes, it was nerfed because.../No, it was not nerfed and the reason is ...)

Apart from experiencing it, nothing else suggests such a nerf has taken place.

 

Tanks.gg does not suggest any difference between patches either (but then again that's what "silent" means, right?).

 

The objective part ends here.

 

Nevertheless...

If such was confirmed to be true - and this is where the "different point of view" comes in - it would not surprise me.

 

Most popular tank classes, at least for the forumites I keep seeing here, are those who complain about Wheeled Vehicles, Self-Propelled Guns and Premium Ammunition. Those, typically are players who make use of armour to endure and progress such as Heavy Tank and Assault Gun players (eg. Steve).

Those, obviously have a lot more to lose if they are discovered by WVs. As they get sniped, countered and then artied, while their shots pierce tyres from an angle where there's no armour behind it or simply miss the WV.

 

This would make them easier to hit, as now the vehicle travels slower where his profile is static, without the wheels between (directly coming or going).

 

My point? This makes HT players happy, which is what WG typically goes for (Murazor and "HTs should not be penetrable from the front", "Type 5 is very hard to play", "HTs need corridors to safeguard their flanks", etc).

 

LTs don't have the luxury to take abuse and that's not their "deal" either. Their "armour" is not measured in millimeters but in kilometers per hour (speed) and in meters (view range).

Currently, they have neither.

 

TL;DR: It's WG being WG: they hate LTs, that punish mediocre HT and AG players, which are "daddy's little princesses", for the stupid mistakes they do.


Edited by WindSplitter1, 23 April 2020 - 08:21 PM.


Pajama_Dweeb #2 Posted 23 April 2020 - 08:24 PM

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Don't pull U-turns.

_bitter_end_ #3 Posted 23 April 2020 - 08:27 PM

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Nerf those wheelies to oblivion, they ruin almost every battle. They even cause too many very fast wins/defeats, which are one of the biggest frustration factor nowadays. Nerf the damn wheelers! They should lose their autoaim, some accuracy and even at least 30% of their max. speed. They also should be much bigger, AMX CDC size.

mmm_lawara #4 Posted 23 April 2020 - 08:30 PM

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View Post_bitter_end_, on 23 April 2020 - 08:27 PM, said:

Nerf those wheelies to oblivion, they ruin almost every battle. They even cause too many very fast wins/defeats, which are one of the biggest frustration factor nowadays. Nerf the damn wheelers! They should lose their autoaim, some accuracy and even at least 30% of their max. speed. They also should be much bigger, AMX CDC size.

Yes we heard that u want a nucler bomb for ur self in wot so u can oneshot everyone on map and who shots out already in loading time , so u can be the best ;) 



_bitter_end_ #5 Posted 23 April 2020 - 08:48 PM

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View Postmmm_lawara, on 23 April 2020 - 07:30 PM, said:

Yes we heard that u want a nucler bomb for ur self in wot so u can oneshot everyone on map and who shots out already in loading time , so u can be the best ;) 

Mate, i cant get what nuclear thingy are you talking about..... could you just get lost please?



gunslingerXXX #6 Posted 23 April 2020 - 08:51 PM

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They should have left the handling alone. You need to be able to dodge shots, otherwise the tank is pointless. You need to get up close to spot. 

They should have fixed that gun instead. Autoaim and dmg enemies at 90km/h from 300m is just plain stupid. 

 



mmm_lawara #7 Posted 23 April 2020 - 08:54 PM

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View PostgunslingerXXX, on 23 April 2020 - 08:51 PM, said:

They should have left the handling alone. You need to be able to dodge shots, otherwise the tank is pointless. You need to get up close to spot. 

They should have fixed that gun instead. Autoaim and dmg enemies at 90km/h from 300m is just plain stupid. 

 

Sounds weurd but i agree u ;) 
Or atless ebr against ebr , not 2 ebrs vs some shermans , like it was in rankeds ;) that would fix all ;)



LZ_Mordan #8 Posted 24 April 2020 - 06:45 PM

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everyone was feeling right.

 

see new patch today lol.. 



_Panzer_X #9 Posted 14 June 2020 - 11:02 AM

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EBR IS A CHEAT TANK, i 've seen it very often reach enemy base at the start of game while tanks are still deploying , he kills enemy arty and goes back ALIVE although every one is shooting at him !!!! this tank goes almost as fast as shells, wtf is this ????:izmena::justwait::angry:

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View Post_bitter_end_, on 23 April 2020 - 07:27 PM, said:

Nerf those wheelies to oblivion, they ruin almost every battle. They even cause too many very fast wins/defeats, which are one of the biggest frustration factor nowadays. Nerf the damn wheelers! They should lose their autoaim, some accuracy and even at least 30% of their max. speed. They also should be much bigger, AMX CDC size.


umm no, that would kill the tank, I LOVE ebr, they take skill to drive, skill to aim with very low pen and are very easy to kill with practice 



Kartoshkaya #11 Posted 14 June 2020 - 01:26 PM

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Nitro_Tank #12 Posted 14 June 2020 - 01:38 PM

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there is no fixing, the whole concept is stupid and damaging for the game. remove or it will forever be a clownshow

qpranger #13 Posted 14 June 2020 - 01:41 PM

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View PostNitro_Tank, on 14 June 2020 - 03:38 PM, said:

there is no fixing, the whole concept is stupid and damaging for the game. remove or it will forever be a clownshow

 

Wheelies work fine in War Thunder.

Gaijin know balance.

Wargaming know circus.



Homer_J #14 Posted 14 June 2020 - 01:47 PM

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I'm sure we have a place for EBR discussion.

WindSplitter1 #15 Posted 14 June 2020 - 01:47 PM

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This thread can be closed as WG already fixed it.

Homer_J #16 Posted 14 June 2020 - 01:49 PM

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Closed.




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