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mpf1959 #1 Posted 28 April 2020 - 02:06 PM

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I think I am going to get this model. I started this hobby about 3 years ago when I had to give up motorbikes because of a collapsed spine, and find these films helpfull, especially this bloke.

 


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Not the 155mm I was hoping for. :/

15.5cm/60 3rd Year Type best 155mm.

 

Anyhow, keep us posted. :honoring:

 

I should be getting a Type 2 Ka-Mi, Type 95 Kurogane and a Type 94 6-Wheel Cargo Carrier in the mail soon, all the way from Japan.


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I actually rather like his videos as they show you the type of finish anyone can get if they put just some effort in. If you look at what some some of the professional modellers do then you can certainly pick up techniques to take your models up a level. The problem is realistically very few people will be able to attain their level of proficiency and it can create an expectation that this is what ‘real’ modellers do. Another problem is ending up with the impression that if I buy products X, Y and Z then I’ll be able to do the same. They may make it easier but there’s no substitute for skill.

 

Keep us up to date on how it goes as it’s supposed to be a good kit even if it’s not a subject that interests me.



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View PostNishi_Kinuyo, on 28 April 2020 - 04:36 PM, said:

Not the 155mm I was hoping for. :/

15.5cm/60 3rd Year Type best 155mm.

 

Anyhow, keep us posted. :honoring:

 

I should be getting a Type 2 Ka-Mi, Type 95 Kurogane and a Type 94 6-Wheel Cargo Carrier in the mail soon, all the way from Japan.

 

I have to wait, it is out of stock at the moment, so I went for the Challenger 2 in the meantime, I already did the Challenger 1.



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View Postjabster, on 29 April 2020 - 08:19 AM, said:

I actually rather like his videos as they show you the type of finish anyone can get if they put just some effort in. If you look at what some some of the professional modellers do then you can certainly pick up techniques to take your models up a level. The problem is realistically very few people will be able to attain their level of proficiency and it can create an expectation that this is what ‘real’ modellers do. Another problem is ending up with the impression that if I buy products X, Y and Z then I’ll be able to do the same. They may make it easier but there’s no substitute for skill.

 

Keep us up to date on how it goes as it’s supposed to be a good kit even if it’s not a subject that interests me.

 

I have seen some amazing things that these modellers do, yes, Andy is my favourite to watch. To tell you the truth my models are not anywhere near perfect, or even good, but that's likely due to a combination of only being able to sit upright for around 20 to 45 mins at a time, bad old eyes and hand tremble as much as anything else! :teethhappy:

 

It is a nice little time killer though, and something I never thought I would enjoy, but do.



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View Postmpf1959, on 29 April 2020 - 12:29 PM, said:

 

I have seen some amazing things that these modellers do, yes, Andy is my favourite to watch. To tell you the truth my models are not anywhere near perfect, or even good, but that's likely due to a combination of only being able to sit upright for around 20 to 45 mins at a time, bad old eyes and hand tremble as much as anything else! :teethhappy:

 

It is a nice little time killer though, and something I never thought I would enjoy, but do.


Another Tamiya for the Chally 2?

 

As for the hobby, well it is a hobby so enjoyment really is what you should be doing it for whether it’s chucking a kit together and slapping some paint on it or spending hours super detailing to replicate reference photos. The problem comes when you have people who insist there’s only one right way to do things and really can’t understand why anyone would think differently. It’s a bit like WoT in that respect.


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View Postjabster, on 29 April 2020 - 08:54 PM, said:


Another Tamiya for the Chally 2?

 

As for the hobby, well it is a hobby so enjoyment really is what you should be doing it for whether it’s chucking a kit together and slapping some paint on it or spending hours super detailing to replicate reference photos. The problem comes when you have people who insist there’s only one right way to do things and really can’t understand why anyone would think differently. It’s a bit like WoT in that respect.

 

Yes a Tamiya, I stick with them now. I have tried two different makes the Tacom Whippet (which I did manage to finish though badly) and the Vulcan Light Vic which has beaten me fair and square!

 

Regarding the WOT analogy, I agree.

 

edit: by the way, what models do you like to make?


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View Postmpf1959, on 30 April 2020 - 12:12 PM, said:

 

Yes a Tamiya, I stick with them now. I have tried two different makes the Tacom Whippet (which I did manage to finish though badly) and the Vulcan Light Vic which has beaten me fair and square!

 

Regarding the WOT analogy, I agree.

 

edit: by the way, what models do you like to make?


In terms of vendors my gotos are Tamiya, Meng and Trumpeter with a little bit of Takom. The only one I really avoid is Dragon as they just seem so sloppy in their engineering quality (I expect kits to actually fit together and instructions that someone has tried to use) for such a premium price. 

 

The Vulcan Light Vic, I’ve thought about getting that before but that running gear/suspension/tracks looked a bit too much for me. The Tacom Whippet, I plumped for the Meng version mainly because they’d done wheels better and it was cheaper. From a few years ago.

 



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View PostNishi_Kinuyo, on 28 April 2020 - 04:36 PM, said:

Not the 155mm I was hoping for. :/

15.5cm/60 3rd Year Type best 155mm.

 

Anyhow, keep us posted. :honoring:

 

I should be getting a Type 2 Ka-Mi, Type 95 Kurogane and a Type 94 6-Wheel Cargo Carrier in the mail soon, all the way from Japan.

Speaking of which...

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My go-to manufacturer is Finemolds for a very obvious reason.

They're one of the few to do a lot of IJA kits, and the quality is usually quite good.

Some of their kits got rebranded and sold under license by Tamiya, btw.



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Time to dig out that unfinished crommie.

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With an almost 3-yr old and a new baby incoming in <2 months, I have packed away all my modeling stuff. Hope to get back into it in a few years. 

 

So good luck mpf and be sure to show us some pics of your project! :great:



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View PostCaptain_Kremen0, on 01 May 2020 - 08:42 AM, said:

Time to dig out that unfinished crommie.


I’ve got one of those also, that I’m trying to do with the Cromwell B look.

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View Postundutchable80, on 01 May 2020 - 08:55 AM, said:

With an almost 3-yr old and a new baby incoming in <2 months, I have packed away all my modeling stuff. Hope to get back into it in a few years. 

 

So good luck mpf and be sure to show us some pics of your project! :great:


Two things that don’t mix with modelling, young children and cats.



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Whaaaa that arty is so accurate it hit me in my sleep  whaaaa WG nerf that arty whaaaaa :child::D

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View PostGruff_, on 01 May 2020 - 09:28 AM, said:

Whaaaa that arty is so accurate it hit me in my sleep  whaaaa WG nerf that arty whaaaaa :child::D


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View Postjabster, on 30 April 2020 - 05:29 PM, said:


In terms of vendors my gotos are Tamiya, Meng and Trumpeter with a little bit of Takom. The only one I really avoid is Dragon as they just seem so sloppy in their engineering quality (I expect kits to actually fit together and instructions that someone has tried to use) for such a premium price. 

 

The Vulcan Light Vic, I’ve thought about getting that before but that running gear/suspension/tracks looked a bit too much for me. The Tacom Whippet, I plumped for the Meng version mainly because they’d done wheels better and it was cheaper. From a few years ago.

 

 

Crikey, that looks great! 

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View Postundutchable80, on 01 May 2020 - 09:55 AM, said:

With an almost 3-yr old and a new baby incoming in <2 months, I have packed away all my modeling stuff. Hope to get back into it in a few years. 

 

So good luck mpf and be sure to show us some pics of your project! :great:

 

Even though they are very primitive looking, I will! :teethhappy:

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These were the first ones I made about 3 years ago.

The cap badge is off a friend I have known for 50 years, his dad (now passed on) was a tanker in WW2.

 

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View Postmpf1959, on 01 May 2020 - 11:20 AM, said:

 

Crikey, that looks great! 

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Even though they are very primitive looking, I will! :teethhappy:

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These were the first ones I made about 3 years ago.

The cap badge is off a friend I have known for 50 years, his dad (now passed on) was a tanker in WW2.

 

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Looks like a perfect set of four test subjects to try some things out.



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The Challenger has arrived, 1 day earlier than they said. :)

I get mine off Amazon, usually I try and support small business, but the wife has Prime and it's really easy for returns what have you.

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Looks like a perfect set of four test subjects to try some things out.

 

What would you do?



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View Postmpf1959, on 02 May 2020 - 10:43 AM, said:

The Challenger has arrived, 1 day earlier than they said. :)

I get mine off Amazon, usually I try and support small business, but the wife has Prime and it's really easy for returns what have you.

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What would you do?

 

I also try and support small/local business as long as the offer that something that online retailers don’t and that generally means good customer service. Unfortunately out last local model model store closed several years ago so almost all of my kits come from either Amazon or dedicated U.K. based companies.

 

As for what I would try, probably giving the model a more 3D look (pinwashes and highlighting), some basic weathering (the video in the OP is a good starting point) and weathering the tracks. My overall approach is for most builds I tried to pick a few things I’d like to try and see which ones I like or not.



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View Postjabster, on 03 May 2020 - 07:17 AM, said:

I also try and support small/local business as long as the offer that something that online retailers don’t and that generally means good customer service. Unfortunately out last local model model store closed several years ago so almost all of my kits come from either Amazon or dedicated U.K. based companies.

Indeed.

Although in my case, barely anyone ever has IJA vehicles. :(



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View PostNishi_Kinuyo, on 03 May 2020 - 09:26 AM, said:

Indeed.

Although in my case, barely anyone ever has IJA vehicles. :(


In the U.K., and I believe Europe, Japanese armour really doesn’t have the draw that other nations do. If you look at the big vendors, Japanese armour is pretty sparse compared even to British subjects which themselves are dwarfed by the big three of US, Germany and Russia. That’s then reflected in what companies have in stock.

 

I’d presume that part of it is national bias and also that Japanese armour doesn't have that iconic status.


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