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dUG1 #1 Posted 29 April 2020 - 12:26 PM

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Hi forumites

 

As many of you mentioned several times, tier 9 is, imho, the sweet spot of WoT right now.

 

It is the tier with the least broken/OP tanks, including premium/special/rewards ones from tier 8 and 10 (lets not go there, please).

Sure, there are some obvious elephants in the room, like M55/53, EBR 90, and maybe Skoda T50 and Standard B, but nothing that could break the meta like tier up and down tanks now do.

 

It could also give players additional motive to play current Expedition season to get new tier 9 rewards, which still wont cause rage like "some" at tier 10 do.

 

Seeing how WG is experimenting with new game modes and pushing Frontlines as the new standard part of the game, is there any information or chance that tier 9 will be the next tier for special modes?

 

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Brawl as tier 9 - would be different, unique and quite fun, unlike meta tanks spam in tier X now.

Frontlines as tier 9 - would be fun and overall faster due to majority of tier 9 tanks being post WW2 era, but not EBR 75-fast broken + would make a lot players with tech tree tanks play it more due to no Progetto/LT432/EBR spam.

 

I understand that such change from tier 8 would short-term reduce the income from OP premiums being sold, but in the long term, would bring back players and break the stalemate of usual modes and game approach.

 

Please share you thoughts ;)


Edited by dUG1, 29 April 2020 - 05:20 PM.


GodTank2 #2 Posted 29 April 2020 - 12:35 PM

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Issue is that people dont keep tier 9 tanks , they move up to tier 10 and keep the tier 10 ones. 

MyArmorIsGolden #3 Posted 29 April 2020 - 12:41 PM

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View PostGodTank2, on 29 April 2020 - 12:35 PM, said:

Issue is that people dont keep tier 9 tanks , they move up to tier 10 and keep the tier 10 ones. 

opposite for me. i dont like tier 10. tier 9 is best imo.



dUG1 #4 Posted 29 April 2020 - 02:57 PM

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View PostGodTank2, on 29 April 2020 - 12:35 PM, said:

Issue is that people dont keep tier 9 tanks , they move up to tier 10 and keep the tier 10 ones. 

 

Not really, I know a lot of "good" players who keep and play their tier 9 in randoms.

RU251, T-10, derp T49, AMX M4 51, Jagdtiger, Standard B, T55A and Skoda T50 are just some of them.

 

The point is - tier X is boring with hovercraft meta favoring 5-6 tanks, while tier 9 with more balance would make for a more divers and fun match-up.



fwhaatpiraat #5 Posted 29 April 2020 - 03:06 PM

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Nice idea, tier 8 would be terrible indeed.

 

What vehicles would you play if Brawl was t9 only? I'm thinking of M46 Patton or Amx 30. I don't have the Skoda and Standard B yet.

 

:)



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View Postfwhaatpiraat, on 29 April 2020 - 03:06 PM, said:

What vehicles would you play if Brawl was t9 only?

 

Leo PTA

13 90

Cent 7/1

 

Man, I would LOVE to play brawl in these...

:great:



dUG1 #7 Posted 29 April 2020 - 03:21 PM

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View Postfwhaatpiraat, on 29 April 2020 - 03:06 PM, said:

Nice idea, tier 8 would be terrible indeed.

 

What vehicles would you play if Brawl was t9 only? I'm thinking of M46 Patton or Amx 30. I don't have the Skoda and Standard B yet.

 

:)

 

View Postmjs_89, on 29 April 2020 - 03:11 PM, said:

 

Leo PTA

13 90

Cent 7/1

 

Man, I would LOVE to play brawl in these...

:great:

 

Cent 7/1 - forgot that one, but yeah, load some regular HESH and watch paper tanks cry.


Overall, meds at tier 9 are amazing so hard to pick the best one, but for example, Frontline tier 9 I would play a trio of Leo PT, AMX 30 and T54/55 all the time.

frange #8 Posted 29 April 2020 - 03:22 PM

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View Postfwhaatpiraat, on 29 April 2020 - 02:06 PM, said:

Nice idea, tier 8 would be terrible indeed.

 

What vehicles would you play if Brawl was t9 only? I'm thinking of M46 Patton or Amx 30. I don't have the Skoda and Standard B yet.

 

:)

 

Skoda and Standard as you say. Along with

Batchat 25t AP

Obj 704

Obj 430

Leopard PTA

AMX 13 90

(most likely the Char Futur within 4 weeks...)



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View Postfwhaatpiraat, on 29 April 2020 - 05:06 PM, said:

Nice idea, tier 8 would be terrible indeed.

 

What vehicles would you play if Brawl was t9 only? I'm thinking of M46 Patton or Amx 30. I don't have the Skoda and Standard B yet.

 

:)

 

Standard B, E 75, T 10, AMX 13 90, AMX 30, JadgTiger, M53/M55 and etc.



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View PostGodTank2, on 29 April 2020 - 11:35 AM, said:

Issue is that people dont keep tier 9 tanks , they move up to tier 10 and keep the tier 10 ones. 

 

I kept a lot of tier 9's as they are generally more enjoyable then Tier 10's. Problem with Tier 10's is there is too much BS armor, too much gold spamming and too much camping going on due to the BS armor.

 

Tier 9 is a lot more dynamic and the MM is also basically Pref-MM at that tier.

 

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View PostCobra6, on 29 April 2020 - 03:25 PM, said:

 

I kept a lot of tier 9's as they are generally more enjoyable then Tier 10's. Problem with Tier 10's is there is too much BS armor, too much gold spamming and too much camping going on due to the BS armor.

 

Tier 9 is a lot more dynamic and the MM is also basically Pref-MM at that tier.

 

Cobra 6

 

Also, on top of what Cobra said, tier 9 tanks "requires" less premium ammo spam to be effective, since most of the guns are already weaker versions of those on tier X, while there is no herpa-derpa armor.



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View PostdUG1, on 29 April 2020 - 12:26 PM, said:

Frontlines as tier 9 - would be fun and overall faster due to majority of tier 9 tanks being post WW2 era, but not EBR 75-fast broken

 

How about ERB 90 fast..er? Or even 13 90 fast. As the mobility gaps are bigger on tier 9 then 8 tbh between some tanks. Then again, FL is popular due to the fact you can use tier 8 prems for income. If that was out of the question, then other tanks would still set a different meta or be more popular. Like the Standard B or even the EBR 90 I suspect. Something will swarm the field to annoy some regardless of tier, sweet spot or not.

 

And if I remember correctly. Mobility was used as the excuse to dump tier X from FL. As if you recall, the first FL teaser only had tier X tanks in it.



SovietBias #13 Posted 29 April 2020 - 05:36 PM

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I'd like Frontlines to cycle through tiers other than 8.

7 and 9 in particular, but I wouldn't  mind 6 as well.



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For Brawl I couldn't care less as it's a mode that is not enjoyable to me

For Frontline, I say it is best at tier 8. That's the tier people play the most and it is a good credit source instead of just playing randoms, and for tech tree tanks it's a good exp source.



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View PostBalc0ra, on 29 April 2020 - 05:36 PM, said:

 

How about ERB 90 fast..er? Or even 13 90 fast. As the mobility gaps are bigger on tier 9 then 8 tbh between some tanks. Then again, FL is popular due to the fact you can use tier 8 prems for income. If that was out of the question, then other tanks would still set a different meta or be more popular. Like the Standard B or even the EBR 90 I suspect. Something will swarm the field to annoy some regardless of tier, sweet spot or not.

 

And if I remember correctly. Mobility was used as the excuse to dump tier X from FL. As if you recall, the first FL teaser only had tier X tanks in it.

 

Not even close to toxicity and damage burst of EBR 75, but again, this topic is not about that.

Also, tier 9 overall has faster MTs and a lot of HTs, which could make the mode more dynamic and fun with tech tree tanks.

 

Bold part is the main problem - WG wants this mode to be premium broken tank infested and most likely, anything aside from tier 8 will not be even taken into consideration.


Edited by dUG1, 29 April 2020 - 06:10 PM.


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View PostSovietBias, on 29 April 2020 - 04:36 PM, said:

I'd like Frontlines to cycle through tiers other than 8.

7 and 9 in particular, but I wouldn't  mind 6 as well.

 

The problem with tier 9 - is there is not any premium tanks for sale to play. So no reward for WG there. Yet - as said. Due to what have been seen in Supertest... And i definately do not want to se WG start monetizing tier 9 the same way they have trashed tier 8 with all OP prems...

 

Tier 7 do have some ok prems, but tier 6 absolutely, since WG have dumped us a ton of six'es the last years as rewards or christmas loot boxes. 



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View Postfwhaatpiraat, on 29 April 2020 - 02:06 PM, said:

Nice idea, tier 8 would be terrible indeed.

 

What vehicles would you play if Brawl was t9 only? I'm thinking of M46 Patton or Amx 30. I don't have the Skoda and Standard B yet.

 

:)


t55a

obj 430

wz11114

amx m4 mle51

 

are the ones I would try out first


Edited by mgns, 29 April 2020 - 08:03 PM.


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Kpf 50t would come to mind. Also, the upcoming USA tier 9 - Concept 1B or even the Char Future 4. Maybe even AE Phase 1, even though it's kind of slow.

GustyOWindflap #19 Posted 29 April 2020 - 09:18 PM

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Tier 9 tanks are not sold in the Premium Shop. Need I say more ?

 

 



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Brawl tier 9 gamemode - yes please!

Frontline tier 9 gamemode - no thx, I like grinding credits & (semi)stock tech tree tanks in this mode. 

 

Maybe WG could even experiment with (one episode of) Ranked with Tier 9 only tanks. 

 

View PostGustyOWindflap, on 29 April 2020 - 09:18 PM, said:

Tier 9 tanks are not sold in the Premium Shop. Need I say more ?


Neither are Tier X, yet WG is planning on making Brawl mode a tier X gamemode. 






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