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habar_name #1 Posted 02 May 2020 - 07:44 PM

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How is this even possible?

In the same time, my new favourite toy, T49 has always less than 910 when pen..

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qpranger #2 Posted 02 May 2020 - 07:56 PM

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This is what happens when you don't buy something in the premium shop for a while.

Venom7000 #3 Posted 02 May 2020 - 07:57 PM

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Minimum you should be able to roll is 682-ish (thats -25%)

However, we can't be certain that the tank you shot had more than 534hp.

 

Some times you get so focused. You dont notice that just as you were about to hit the enemy tank. Someone else also damaged him. And you technically "finished him off" with the remainder of the HP.

 

You cant roll 800dmg on a tank that only has 530hp left 

Same how sometimes,  it shows me that I damaged 700 enemy tank in my Defender. Which is impossible. When in actuality it was two hits from two different tanks in space of less than 1 second


Edited by Venom7000, 02 May 2020 - 08:00 PM.


Orkbert #4 Posted 02 May 2020 - 08:00 PM

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Plenty of explanations but without replay we can't say which one.

habar_name #5 Posted 02 May 2020 - 08:01 PM

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I don't think you understand. I did 534 damage with IS-3, whici suppose to deal a maximum of 488..

MeetriX #6 Posted 02 May 2020 - 08:02 PM

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You shot HE?

Set it on fire?


Edited by MeetriX, 02 May 2020 - 08:04 PM.


habar_name #7 Posted 02 May 2020 - 08:02 PM

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What replay? I download a photo, I think is enough.

Bulldog_Drummond #8 Posted 02 May 2020 - 08:05 PM

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View Posthabar_name, on 02 May 2020 - 06:44 PM, said:

How is this even possible?

In the same time, my new favourite toy, T49 has always less than 910 when pen..

 

Oh noes



Venom7000 #9 Posted 02 May 2020 - 08:05 PM

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View Posthabar_name, on 02 May 2020 - 08:01 PM, said:

I don't think you understand. I did 534 damage with IS-3, whici suppose to deal a maximum of 488..

You mentioned t49 now you mention is3. So its a bit confusing. 

But the summary is that you apparently get 37% RNG?

 

Again, read my comment. Low roll bellow your most minimul roll is impossible. The only explanation is that while your sloww HE shell traveled to the target. Someone with faster shell velocity. Managet to damage him enough for you to not have enough hp to claim for minimum low roll of your gun.

 

Think of it as dmg steal.

 

High roll is possible if you managed to max roll him and set a fire. Even with automatic extinguisher you will lose like 40hp. Which is enough to get to your IS3 number.

 

In the post game stats. They dont separate your dmg shot and dmg what you caused by burning. What ever burns is added and attributed to your last shot.


Edited by Venom7000, 02 May 2020 - 08:10 PM.


Enderman21 #10 Posted 02 May 2020 - 08:06 PM

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View Postqpranger, on 02 May 2020 - 06:56 PM, said:

This is what happens when you don't buy something in the premium shop for a while.

This.



fwhaatpiraat #11 Posted 02 May 2020 - 08:08 PM

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View PostMeetriX, on 02 May 2020 - 08:02 PM, said:

You shot HE?

Set it on fire?


I thought of this as well. Or hit him earlier with HE (non pen) and once with AP. Or you rammed him and shot him once.



Orkbert #12 Posted 02 May 2020 - 08:09 PM

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Due to lack of replay here are now some of the possibilities:

 

-having loaded HE (530 alpha which is suspiciously close to the shown damage score) and managed to penetrate.

-set the enemy tank on fire and it wasn't put out immediately (the fire damage doesn't get noted separately)

-collided with the enemy (ramming damage also doesn't get a separate mention)

 

So no, not 37% RNG, just you not noticing things



habar_name #13 Posted 02 May 2020 - 08:10 PM

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No, I did 534 from one shot, and I don't remember switching to HE.. But, f me, maybe I did..
19:12 Added after 1 minute
One shot, no fire, hit it from the back. Most probably I hit 3, but I do not remember to change the standard shells.. Case closed, anyway..

Venom7000 #14 Posted 02 May 2020 - 08:18 PM

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Dude with out the replay or you being able to get your story straight, we cant know for sure.

 

Just know that there are no "magic" ghost and magical shells (except one found via the 2 key).

 

So its one of the many things we wrote for you.

 



VsUK #15 Posted 02 May 2020 - 08:30 PM

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I was playing well, winning most of my games & my win rate on my T-44 I'm grinding was 66%. Then I made the critical error of activating a 2 hour 200% exp boost. And from the first game to the last, I was put constantly in tier 10 games where I was bottom tank & I couldn't buy a win, because my team were that poor, games barely lasted longer than 8 minutes. 

Also, I find it suspicious when I'm the last tank, 1 enemy tank left. My health is a 1 shot kill if I get hit, but the enemy had about 50hp left. Any damage would kill it, but I couldn't ram it as my engine was broke. But I got the drop on the Rhm. Borsig Waffentrager. His full side exposed to me & I shot dead centre pop, critical hit, no damage. Pop it failed to pen. At this point the RHM realised where I was & turned his gun. I managed to get 1 more shot of, pop critical again with no damage. I backed off a little & I must of had a slither of turret exposed & on the snap, fired & dead. 

Sometimes, MM & RNG work together to make sure you lose. I do not believe you can have that much bad luck back to back without it being deliberate. 


Edited by VsUK, 02 May 2020 - 09:11 PM.


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View PostVsUK, on 02 May 2020 - 07:30 PM, said:

I was playing well, winning most of my games & my win rate on my T-44 I'm grinding was 66%. Then I made the critical error of activating a 2 hour 200% exp boost. And from the first game to the last, I was put constantly in tier 10 games where I was bottom tank & I couldn't buy a win, because my team were that poor, games barely lasted longer than 8 minutes. 

Also, I find it suspicious when I'm the last tank, 1 enemy tank left. My health is a 1 shot kill if I get hit, but the enemy had about 50hp left. Any damage would kill it, but I couldn't ram it as my engine was broke. But I got the drop on the Rhm. Borsig Waffentrager. His full size exposed to me & I shot dead centre pop, critical hit, no damage. Pop it failed to pen. At this point the RHM realised where I was & turned his gun. I managed to get 1 more shot of, pop critical again with no damage. I backed off a little & I must of had a slither of turret exposed & on the snap, fired & dead. 

Sometimes, MM & RNG work together to make sure you lose. I do not believe you can have that much bad luck back to back without it being deliberate. 

 

This has come up before

For what it's worth my view is that as soon as you activate any time-limited bonus you put yourself under psychological pressure to get as much juice as possible out of it before the timer runs out

You are stressed, you are under pressure, and you make mistakes, play badly, become annoyed, and play even worse.

 



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View PostEnderman21, on 02 May 2020 - 07:06 PM, said:

This.

Looks like you backed the wrong horse.

View Posthabar_name, on 02 May 2020 - 07:10 PM, said:

No, I did 534 from one shot, and I don't remember switching to HE.. But, f me, maybe I did..
19:12 Added after 1 minute
One shot, no fire, hit it from the back. Most probably I hit 3, but I do not remember to change the standard shells.. Case closed, anyway..

 



Immensive #18 Posted 02 May 2020 - 08:58 PM

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500+ shoots whit t49 are possible.

 

Had 2 moments in t49 where I did the same without penning my target (1 time t49 on hull and the other time Obj.277 back)

 

Same goes for the old Type5 whit 1400 Gold-He. My highest non pen hit was 780 on Obj. 907 turret-roof.



24doom24 #19 Posted 02 May 2020 - 09:00 PM

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Because it didn't pen

 

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View PostVsUK, on 02 May 2020 - 08:30 PM, said:

I was playing well, winning most of my games & my win rate on my T-44 I'm grinding was 66%. Then I made the critical error of activating a 2 hour 200% exp boost. And from the first game to the last, I was put constantly in tier 10 games where I was bottom tank & I couldn't buy a win, because my team were that poor, games barely lasted longer than 8 minutes. 

Also, I find it suspicious when I'm the last tank, 1 enemy tank left. My health is a 1 shot kill if I get hit, but the enemy had about 50hp left. Any damage would kill it, but I couldn't ram it as my engine was broke. But I got the drop on the Rhm. Borsig Waffentrager. His full size exposed to me & I shot dead centre pop, critical hit, no damage. Pop it failed to pen. At this point the RHM realised where I was & turned his gun. I managed to get 1 more shot of, pop critical again with no damage. I backed off a little & I must of had a slither of turret exposed & on the snap, fired & dead. 

Sometimes, MM & RNG work together to make sure you lose. I do not believe you can have that much bad luck back to back without it being deliberate. 

 

If you cannot belive Random events cannot be random, you need to learn about the argument from incredulity.  Luck is a name that is applied to a chain of events that lead to an outcome.  If the chain of events can be identified and replicated, the outcome will be the same.  That is why pilots can train for emergencies on a simulator. and why accident investigation is a thing.  Break a causal chain and you change the outcome.







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