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hellhound6 #1 Posted 03 May 2020 - 07:29 PM

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From AMX 50-100 all tanks are so dead

There are a lot of tier 8 heavy and medium tanks with better clips and better armor

I don't say anything about Russian autoloader heavies
Don't you think that it need some buff?

 

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BC 25t

BC 155 58

AMX 13 105 after EBRS


Its just impossible to deal dmg with tier X artilery

Its impossible to survive with 50B when everyone now have clips and 2guns etc

Its impossible to challange EBRs with 13 105
Its impossible to aim from bc 25t also long loading time between shells

 

So why did you screwed up French lines WG?

Once 50 100 and 50 120 was the most funny thing to play

Now its just impossible even tier 6 wheeled can kill you



TheJ4ckal #2 Posted 03 May 2020 - 07:40 PM

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You need to look up the word IMPOSSIBLE in the dictionary, or go back to school.

Here's a tissue........



shikaka9 #3 Posted 03 May 2020 - 07:43 PM

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AMX50/100 only is dead, even 65T is not so dead as AMX50/100


Edited by shikaka9, 03 May 2020 - 07:45 PM.


Ragoutrabbit #4 Posted 03 May 2020 - 07:45 PM

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The line worthless has been for 5+ years.

wsatnutter #5 Posted 03 May 2020 - 07:52 PM

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depends on how you use your tool of war

Enderman21 #6 Posted 03 May 2020 - 08:00 PM

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Stop with the buffing of tanks. Start nerfing the ones that are overpowered and get them to the level of the older/weaker tanks. The games end in 4 minutes because there are fast tanks with 3k+ dpm.

Gwynbleidd11 #7 Posted 03 May 2020 - 08:08 PM

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whats wrong with AMX line? Interesting tanks which would shine in the hands of anyone who has some brains

Ragoutrabbit #8 Posted 03 May 2020 - 08:15 PM

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View PostGwynbleidd11, on 03 May 2020 - 08:08 PM, said:

whats wrong with AMX line? Interesting tanks which would shine in the hands of anyone who has some brains

 

There's a reason you barely ever see them in game anymore....



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View PostEnderman21, on 03 May 2020 - 08:00 PM, said:

Stop with the buffing of tanks. Start nerfing the ones that are overpowered and get them to the level of the older/weaker tanks. The games end in 4 minutes because there are fast tanks with 3k+ dpm.

 

This.

 

All tanks should have a place in the game and be viable. Some being somewhat better than others in a given situation is fine, but 5% making the remaining 95% subpar? Please.

 

French (and CZ/SK) tanks are fine, it's the autoreloader BS (Italian meds, IS-3A) that is broken.



fwhaatpiraat #10 Posted 03 May 2020 - 08:40 PM

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Batchat is still amazing.

 

Amx 50-100 is still great.

 

For the rest, powercreep made it really hard for the 50B indeed. It's speed is nothing special and the turret is a joke. Russian heavies and mediums laugh at it.

 

50-120 is a bit special and not that great indeed. Although back in the day it also used to be terrible to play on some maps due to the abysmal gun elevation.

 

French arta is terrible indeed and I don't think many people - including me - will complain about that. The tier 8 used to be actual fun to drive, it actually could zoom around the map and it hit hard. Now it's just crap.



murn123 #11 Posted 03 May 2020 - 08:50 PM

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I never understood why 50B only got 4 shells with 1600 potenital, dmg when 50/100 has more potential damage and bc 25t too. It seems pretty easy buff to me just give 50B another shell to the clip. Anyway amx 50/100 got creeped by souma sm crazy buff.

arthurwellsley #12 Posted 03 May 2020 - 08:54 PM

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1. Bat Chat is still very good if difficult to play well to it's full potential.

2. AMX 50 100 again is still useful when played well.

3. AMX 50 120 a bit underpowered but not hugely so.

4. 50B could do with a bit more, but not much more.

5. AMX 13 105 is fun, just not very good. It was always worse than the T-100 even before the EBR 105 came into the game, and needed a buff prior to the arrival of the EBR

6. French SPGs are weak, and long may that remain the case, the tier X could do with a nerf to bring it down a shade.


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It's only a matter of time that your hard earned top tier tanks outside of the Russian tank tree will slowly be made useless against Russian tanks. Russian bias to the extreme. A lot of the tanks are fictional, nothing more than beer mat scribbles made reality in a game. Introducing tanks that were only concepts only is idiotic, especially when WG seem to ignore a large swathe of tanks from other nations that went beyond concepts, where a single demo tank was produced & then decided not to go ahead to further develop it. But this Russian bias is creating an imbalance in the game. Players choking the teams with Russian OP tanks with EBR's running around like clowns. And it's all about revenue. The more games they can get you to spam premium ammo & to make them as short as possible, the more money they make. 

World Of Tanks can learn a lot from War Thunder. 

tajj7 #14 Posted 03 May 2020 - 10:36 PM

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View Postfwhaatpiraat, on 03 May 2020 - 07:40 PM, said:

Batchat is still amazing.

 

Amx 50-100 is still great.

 

For the rest, powercreep made it really hard for the 50B indeed. It's speed is nothing special and the turret is a joke. Russian heavies and mediums laugh at it.

 

50-120 is a bit special and not that great indeed. Although back in the day it also used to be terrible to play on some maps due to the abysmal gun elevation.

 

French arta is terrible indeed and I don't think many people - including me - will complain about that. The tier 8 used to be actual fun to drive, it actually could zoom around the map and it hit hard. Now it's just crap.

 

The Bat Chat can still do well but I am not sure it is amazing.

 

The Progetto is basically a better version of it, the Bat Chat IMO needs some QOL adjustments to be considered truly competitive again, but it is of course not a bad tank. 

 

Like better aim time, bit better gun depression, bit better soft stats and some extra shells would do. It has like 2014 autoloader gun handling, but now stuff like the Progetto and TVP have made that idea obsolete. It seems kind of silly to me the Bat Chat is sat there aiming for like 3+s because of the aim time and soft stats, when the Progetto is firing it's clip quicker, is more accurate, has better aim time and soft stats AND it doesn't have the same massive down time AND it has -9 gun depression AND it has really troll hull armour. 

 

And the TVP can pretty much fire it's clip in the time the Bat Chat aims a shot.

 

The IS-7 these days has better gun handling than the Bat Chat.  Pretty much all the tier 9 meds bar the WZ-120 and Cent 7/1 (who also have gun handling from like 2014) have better gun handling than the Bat Chat, even it's little brother does. 

 

The whole french line is a little underwhelming at the moment bar like the EBR 105, the AMX M4 51, AMX 30 and some of the prems. The French tier 10s, again EBR aside are not in a good place and neither are most of the tier 8s, there are few of the tier 9s that have value but that is about it. 


Edited by tajj7, 03 May 2020 - 10:42 PM.


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View Posthellhound6, on 03 May 2020 - 07:29 PM, said:

There are a lot of tier 8 heavy and medium tanks with better clips and better armor

 

I can't mention many tier 8 mediums with 1800 burst damage and 232 pen. Reload has always been a killer on it. Nor has it ever had armor for WG to have ruined anything later on that line. 50 120 has always been "meh", and the 50b did not have many fans back in 2012, nor does it now. But the 50 100 was never bad, nor is it today IMO. It was just fine, and nothing more.

 

13 90 is still something I favor over the EBRs, and is still my fav light. AMX 105 is still no slacker either tbh. They lacked burst damage to win vs most tracked lights as is for the EBR arrival to matter. But as a scout or a bully, I have no issues getting them to work... with some adaptions when the enemy has an EBR.

 

BC 25t is still solid, but not amazing, nor was it ever IMO. It's still the most flexible for my style, and something I did favor in the past tier X modes only. Progetto etc has a better gun. But other aspects are still better on it. Inc the mobility and camo combo. As mine farmed a fair bit of assist in the 7vs7 modes, on top of the damage.

 

BC arty has always sucked. So I would not say WG ever did ruin anything there vs before. Low pen, low shell arch and low alpha. It went from bad to worse with the arty changes. Clip was the only thing that saved it in the past tbh. As in the stacked damage. If you only got one hit on that clip. It was not much to write home about. Nor is it today.



Negativvv #16 Posted 03 May 2020 - 11:16 PM

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I like my 50b even though I utterly suck in it.

 

The 50-120 was utter pain however and it made me fire full gold as when you've got a derpy gun that has a 30s+ reload then you "really" need to make every shot count.

 

50b has better gun handling and a nice turn of speed.The Skill4Ltu guy loves it so it's a probably people lacking in ability rather than the tank needing buffs maybe :hiding:



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View PostBalc0ra, on 03 May 2020 - 09:57 PM, said:

 

I can't mention many tier 8 mediums with 1800 burst damage and 232 pen.

Yeah but it goes like:  bounce miss miss bounce pen bounce miss and you are dead from HE. Same goes for the other frenchie autoloaders. The ony difference you can gtfo from a bad stituation, with the 50 100 not really.


Edited by Ry0K3N, 04 May 2020 - 12:14 AM.


EdvinE20 #18 Posted 04 May 2020 - 12:22 AM

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They are all great tanks. Don't know what you are talking about.

kaneloon #19 Posted 04 May 2020 - 12:43 AM

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We saw more Amx 50b this afternoon in the 15x15 EU vs RU battles than any other clip tank. Batchat were 2nd in occurence. So in team battles it is still worth something.



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