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hasnainrakha57 #1 Posted 05 May 2020 - 11:10 PM

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Correct me if I am wrong :Crew damage is done when shell explode upon impact and some shrapnel  from shell actually penetrates your tank and reaching your crew member and hence your tank get dmg+crew member gone. If none of the shrapnel penetrates your tank hence u receive no damage and no crew member knocked out.

 

But this happens to me today enemy arty shot at me and none of shrapnel penetrate my tank because I received 0 dmg and 2 crew members knocked out how is that possible?


Edited by hasnainrakha57, 05 May 2020 - 11:10 PM.


unhappy__bunny #2 Posted 05 May 2020 - 11:15 PM

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Er, the shock wave from the explosion threw them across the compartment and they banged their heads on the gun breach or something? 

Galan7891 #3 Posted 05 May 2020 - 11:17 PM

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The sacred art of google-fu says it is possible.Should theoretically be easier to happen on open vehicles like TDs and SPGS.

Rainbowkiss83 #4 Posted 05 May 2020 - 11:18 PM

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Ever heard of shockwaves?
You know that you could be killed by them just by standing in front of a tank gun? (they used this in many situation: infantry chargin in front of tanks without gun machines and...."HOLY CRAP WHY IS IT SO FUKIN LOUD?????!!!!!")
They used shockwaves to destroy u-bootes,i think that being inside a metallic can when an HE hit you on your head must be a not so pleasant experience.

VsUK #5 Posted 05 May 2020 - 11:22 PM

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I still can't get over the fact that WG reward SPG users for missing their targets. 

hasnainrakha57 #6 Posted 05 May 2020 - 11:29 PM

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Shock wave? Lol I am in my 60ton obj 703 and Gw panther he miss and kill my 2 crew member sitting in 60ton tank by shock wave? Rly ?

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Galan7891 #7 Posted 05 May 2020 - 11:33 PM

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View Posthasnainrakha57, on 05 May 2020 - 11:29 PM, said:

Shock wave? Lol I am in my 60ton obj 703 and Gw panther he miss and kill my 2 crew member sitting in 60ton tank by shock wave? Rly ?


Well you see the tank may be 60ton but the view ports are still weakspots!.../S



Knuddelwolf #8 Posted 05 May 2020 - 11:51 PM

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View Posthasnainrakha57, on 05 May 2020 - 11:29 PM, said:

Shock wave? Lol I am in my 60ton obj 703 and Gw panther he miss and kill my 2 crew member sitting in 60ton tank by shock wave? Rly ?

 

Imagine your tank as a knight in full plate armor armor. Now I hit you with a huge club. I may not be able to penetrate your armor with the blunt club, but the force of the impact alone does considerable damage to the body inside the armor. The armor may have held, but you still get a nasty bruise/concussion.


Edited by Knuddelwolf, 06 May 2020 - 01:29 AM.


Balc0ra #9 Posted 06 May 2020 - 12:00 AM

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View Posthasnainrakha57, on 05 May 2020 - 11:29 PM, said:

Shock wave? Lol I am in my 60ton obj 703 and Gw panther he miss and kill my 2 crew member sitting in 60ton tank by shock wave? Rly ?

 

Don't matter how heavy your tank is. It's an arcade game with simple mechanics. Not a sim with advanced physics vs objects. Splash radius is a bigger part in that calculation then your tank weight.

 

Once an HE shell hits the ground. It creates a zone based on the splash radius. If any tank is in that zone, it creates a 45-degree cone that is directed towards the target. ANY module or crew that comes inside this cone has a chance to take damage. If it's just external modules like tracks that are inside of that cone, and internal modules are outside it, the tracks will take critical damage as they have no sawing throw.

 

Crew has a 10% chance on an internal explosion, and 33% vs AP. No idea if the external explosion % is 10% or not still. And ofc the enemy arty, regardless of tier could have a perk to increase that % chance. Making your weight even less of a... factor.


Edited by Balc0ra, 06 May 2020 - 12:04 AM.


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View Posthasnainrakha57, on 05 May 2020 - 10:10 PM, said:

Correct me if I am wrong :Crew damage is done when shell explode upon impact and some shrapnel  from shell actually penetrates your tank and reaching your crew member and hence your tank get dmg+crew member gone. If none of the shrapnel penetrates your tank hence u receive no damage and no crew member knocked out.

 

But this happens to me today enemy arty shot at me and none of shrapnel penetrate my tank because I received 0 dmg and 2 crew members knocked out how is that possible?

 

Concussive force

 

Sidenote, an EBR 75 lost all hands on FL by a clicker. So, there IS a counter for them after all)))



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View Postunhappy__bunny, on 05 May 2020 - 10:15 PM, said:

Er, the shock wave from the explosion threw them across the compartment and they banged their heads on the gun breach or something? 

So the shockwave from a SPG shell causes damage to tank crew & modules, even if it misses by meters. But a hit with a HE does nothing but scratch an itch?



hasnainrakha57 #12 Posted 06 May 2020 - 12:19 AM

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View PostVsUK, on 05 May 2020 - 11:05 PM, said:

So the shockwave from a SPG shell causes damage to tank crew & modules, even if it misses by meters. But a hit with a HE does nothing but scratch an itch?

+1



chessstud #13 Posted 06 May 2020 - 04:29 AM

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Are you expecting any logic from this completely unrealistic and broken class of tank? Arty is great to keep 43% customers who can't actually play a tank (due to disability, old age or simply low cognitive activity) but increase the revenue for Wargaming.

 

Download XVM, go play a superheavy tank on Malinovka and watch the 3 red arty typical in every game these days click on you with 0 skill involved, damaging modules and killing your crew. Enjoy the gaming experience.



General_Jack_D_Ripper #14 Posted 06 May 2020 - 04:31 AM

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Spall.

Spall kills your crew members

Spall consists of pieces of armor* wich explode off of the armor on the inside, when the tank is hit by a shell outside. Small shell -> small amount of piecees. Large artillery shell -> large amount of pieces

Spall can be reduced with Spall Liner.

 

This is a real thing, don't die ignorant, google.

 

This is the inside of armor which was hit outside with hesh.

 

*and shell pieces in case of penetration


Edited by General_Jack_D_Ripper, 06 May 2020 - 05:27 AM.


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View PostGeneral_Jack_D_Ripper, on 06 May 2020 - 03:31 AM, said:

Spall.

Spall kills your crew members

Spall consists of pieces of armor* wich explode off of the armor on the inside, when the tank is hit by a shell outside. Small shell -> small amount of piecees. Large artillery shell -> large amount of pieces

Spall can be reduced with Spall Liner.

 

This is a real thing, don't die ignorant, google.

 

This is the inside of armor which was hit outside with hesh.

 

*and shell pieces in case of penetration


That’s HESH though is really quite a different beast to HE.






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