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N_Joi #1 Posted 06 May 2020 - 04:19 PM

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Hi all

Has anyone noticed since the new patch that their mark of excellence ratings have taken a nosedive? I only ask as mine seem to be going down even after a very good battle, just wondering if WG changed the criteria 



UrQuan #2 Posted 06 May 2020 - 04:38 PM

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In a way they did change it. Due to the HP buff at lower tiers quite some tanks will need a higher damage/spotting game to be equally relevant. More people with more damage/spotting -> MOE rating goes up.

Balc0ra #3 Posted 06 May 2020 - 07:00 PM

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View PostN_Joi, on 06 May 2020 - 04:19 PM, said:

Hi all

Has anyone noticed since the new patch that their mark of excellence ratings have taken a nosedive? I only ask as mine seem to be going down even after a very good battle, just wondering if WG changed the criteria 

 

As pointed out above. low to mid-tiers had an HP buff. When there is an HP buff, it means more HP per team in say a tier 5 game. Thus more damage to farm. So on some tanks that had 1100 for 95%, are now at 1300 for 95%. Heck one of my tier 5's went from 1200 to 1550. So thus the average has gone for what you need for each %. So when it updates on a tank you have not played for a bit. You might drop 2 to 3% to put you in the right spot for your current average.



_AiSaatana #4 Posted 06 May 2020 - 07:11 PM

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Tier5 Panzer 4/5 jumped from 1800 to 2610. Even first Mark is ridiculous 1630

Scabolcz #5 Posted 06 May 2020 - 10:55 PM

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Played a game on my Lorr 40t... went from 87% to 93.68... They did something and was not only because of HP buffs.

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Balc0ra #6 Posted 06 May 2020 - 11:05 PM

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View PostScabolcz, on 06 May 2020 - 10:55 PM, said:

Played a game on my Lorr 40t... went from 87% to 93.68... They did something and was not only because of HP buffs.

 

That can still happen on tanks you have not played for a bit regardless of changes. As in the requirements have dropped vs when you last played it, as it's not locked to set number for 85 or 95% all the time. It variates vs how others play it. Most of my 2 MOE's are because I've not played the tank in weeks or even months. And the average has dropped a fair bit for the % to jump. As "Steve" is playing it more, and good players less etc.

 



barison1 #7 Posted 06 May 2020 - 11:05 PM

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View PostScabolcz, on 06 May 2020 - 10:55 PM, said:

Played a game on my Lorr 40t... went from 87% to 93.68... They did something and was not only because of HP buffs.


you didnt play lorr40t for quite a time then, perhaps as lorr40t was sold more often since then which can cause way lower reqs thus a MoE jump

 

mark requirements tend to change alot, it isnt a fixed number what some people tend to think


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Bulldog_Drummond #8 Posted 06 May 2020 - 11:13 PM

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I think I half half a dozen MoE, acquired by accident

Never saw any point in them really



Scabolcz #9 Posted 06 May 2020 - 11:14 PM

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A week really, because of Frontlines, but still... Was fishy to me

barison1 #10 Posted 06 May 2020 - 11:19 PM

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View PostScabolcz, on 06 May 2020 - 11:14 PM, said:

A week really, because of Frontlines, but still... Was fishy to me


then most likely due to the 5 battle rental codes given out recently which included lorr



Balc0ra #11 Posted 07 May 2020 - 12:53 PM

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View PostScabolcz, on 06 May 2020 - 11:14 PM, said:

A week really, because of Frontlines, but still... Was fishy to me

 

If you played it at FL, it won't affect your MOE as such. So rather when you played it in randoms last. But FL also gives out a fair bit of rental codes that work for randoms too for a few battles. So again, if Steve had a fair few Lorr codes and played it badly in randoms during FL.... it will drop. Always does.

 

Same when tank rewards are out. Those tanks that are rewarded always drop a bit in requirements when they appear for a bit, due to the flood of new players that are not used to the tank etc.


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WhoCares01 #12 Posted 07 May 2020 - 01:18 PM

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Due to getting Chimera and unlocking the 279 missions, I played a couple of tanks in the last week which I had not played for several months before. As a result i got the 2nd gun mark on Panther 2, BC12t and KV-4. Especially the latter was very surprising, as it was a very mediocre first battle with like 1500-1800 dmg combined when i got the 2nd mark... So yeah, what others said already, mark requirements vary over time. And maybe the Covid influx of more casual players waters down the unicum results on certain tanks a bit. Which would counter the effect described above a bit, I guess?!?! :unsure:

Labrador_wow_wow #13 Posted 07 May 2020 - 01:36 PM

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View PostBulldog_Drummond, on 06 May 2020 - 10:13 PM, said:

I think I half half a dozen MoE, acquired by accident

Never saw any point in them really


They're useful to quickly check out your allies at the beginning of a battle (those you can see of course) if you're running a vanilla client. 



iuytr #14 Posted 08 May 2020 - 07:54 PM

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View PostBalc0ra, on 06 May 2020 - 07:00 PM, said:

 

As pointed out above. low to mid-tiers had an HP buff. When there is an HP buff, it means more HP per team in say a tier 5 game. Thus more damage to farm. So on some tanks that had 1100 for 95%, are now at 1300 for 95%. Heck one of my tier 5's went from 1200 to 1550. So thus the average has gone for what you need for each %. So when it updates on a tank you have not played for a bit. You might drop 2 to 3% to put you in the right spot for your current average.

 

Just to be pedantic, low tiers don't have MoE, it starts at tier 5. I'd like WoT to introduce them for all tiers.



24doom24 #15 Posted 08 May 2020 - 08:23 PM

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I dropped from 86% to 75% in my Lefh lmao. What the hell kind of damage are they doing?  I'm have over 2500 average wn8 in it. 

barison1 #16 Posted 08 May 2020 - 08:53 PM

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View Post24doom24, on 08 May 2020 - 08:23 PM, said:

I dropped from 86% to 75% in my Lefh lmao. What the hell kind of damage are they doing?  I'm have over 2500 average wn8 in it. 


blame the low tier hp increase



24doom24 #17 Posted 08 May 2020 - 09:27 PM

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View Postbarison1, on 08 May 2020 - 07:53 PM, said:


blame the low tier hp increase

haha I know, I'm not stupid. 

 

11% drop is pretty staggering though considering I play the lefh at unicum level. 



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It's always nice if your platoon has more gun marks than the rest of the team combined ;)

barison1 #19 Posted 08 May 2020 - 09:43 PM

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View Post24doom24, on 08 May 2020 - 09:27 PM, said:

haha I know, I'm not stupid. 

 

11% drop is pretty staggering though considering I play the lefh at unicum level. 


heard about same drops from others, doesnt appear that uncommon and might drop even more



N_Joi #20 Posted 09 May 2020 - 06:18 PM

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mine dropped from 90% to 74% after 1 game loss :(

 

another one dropped from 89% to 71%

 

something not right

 






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