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Kalonianhydra #1 Posted 07 May 2020 - 09:14 PM

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This game needs to get big nerfs. Gold ammo for starters.

But also all the tanks that are way too good for the game today, premium and none premium.
start with all wheeled ones.
Then Obj 279e and T95/4201
LT-432
Defender/Obj 252U
The pattern is clear, STOP putting out overpowered tanks.
Almost all tanks needs to slow down. (except the ones that are under powered today)

We don't need any more buffs in the game, start nerfing OP tanks.

 

SonOfNobby #2 Posted 07 May 2020 - 09:21 PM

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Completely agree with you. The defender is ridiculously broken. The 279e is probably the most overpowered tank in the game. Not too sure about the LT-432 but I've heard its pretty insane. The wheeled tanks are also ridiculous. It's sad that wargaming have no idea what they are doing...

wsatnutter #3 Posted 07 May 2020 - 09:25 PM

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OP are you trolling?

SonOfNobby #4 Posted 07 May 2020 - 09:26 PM

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View Postwsatnutter, on 07 May 2020 - 08:25 PM, said:

OP are you trolling?

Are you for real?

Are you seriously trying to suggest that the Defender and the 279e are balanced tanks?



Balc0ra #5 Posted 07 May 2020 - 10:27 PM

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View PostSonOfNobby, on 07 May 2020 - 09:26 PM, said:

Are you for real?

Are you seriously trying to suggest that the Defender and the 279e are balanced tanks?

 

Well, the thing is that the 279E is considered a normal tank. As in it's not protected from nerfs. As no one bought it... from WG that is.

 

Defender is something that people bought with real money. And if it was changed not to be as advertised. We all know what happens if WG decided to change those. I hate the 432 in FL. But it won't change the fact that they can't change it. So it's just easier to fix some of the outdated stuff around it. As either way, you need to pull something down or up to a common line, as others are to far down even if they nerf the Defender. Like the T32 with the planned changes won't struggle vs a Defender as much as it does now where he needs a 20% high roll to even have a chance.

 

It's like the other topic earlier today that said WG should not buff the IS-6, but rather fix the MM it has so it never faces tanks it can't pen.


Edited by Balc0ra, 07 May 2020 - 10:30 PM.


IAmBrexit #6 Posted 07 May 2020 - 10:39 PM

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Geezer owns a AE Phase 1 & a EBR 75 and he's complaining about other OP tanks in the game, classic 

Edited by IAmBrexit, 07 May 2020 - 10:41 PM.


Kalonianhydra #7 Posted 07 May 2020 - 10:48 PM

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View PostBalc0ra, on 07 May 2020 - 09:27 PM, said:

 

Well, the thing is that the 279E is considered a normal tank. As in it's not protected from nerfs. As no one bought it... from WG that is.

 

Defender is something that people bought with real money. And if it was changed not to be as advertised. We all know what happens if WG decided to change those. I hate the 432 in FL. But it won't change the fact that they can't change it. So it's just easier to fix some of the outdated stuff around it. As either way, you need to pull something down or up to a common line, as others are to far down even if they nerf the Defender. Like the T32 with the planned changes won't struggle vs a Defender as much as it does now where he needs a 20% high roll to even have a chance.

 

It's like the other topic earlier today that said WG should not buff the IS-6, but rather fix the MM it has so it never faces tanks it can't pen.

They game needs to slow down. It's a racing game where you can shoot today. And they are putting out Op tanks left right and center.



Gremlin182 #8 Posted 07 May 2020 - 11:01 PM

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Premium ammo not too bad minor tweaks already made more will come if needed.

Wheeled Vehicles tier 6 and 7 ok tier 8 quite strong Premium maybe needs some changes. Tier 9 ok Tier 10 not played it but have played against it.

Seems pretty good.

None of them are so strong they need removing many of us have adjusted and are now killing them.

 

The reward tanks declared by some as OP I don't have an opinion on them ill leave that to those with more knowledge.

 

OP premiums yeah some are strong still doesn't do them any good against tier 9 and 10 tanks.

Strong tanks very strong in the hands of a good player, defender is the new bad boy whenever a question about OP premiums crops up its always defender defender defender.

Against tier 6 and 7 its well overpowered but it seldom ever sees them.

Tier 8 tanks its strong not unkillable but yes its at least borderline OP probably OP, give it six months and no one will care because there will be a new OP tank that's even better.

Power creep will make the Defender just a decent premium heavy, it happens to all tanks.



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Kalonianhydra #10 Posted 07 May 2020 - 11:13 PM

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View PostIAmBrexit, on 07 May 2020 - 09:39 PM, said:

Geezer owns a AE Phase 1 & a EBR 75 and he's complaining about other OP tanks in the game, classic 

That has nothing to do with it, if those tanks are OP, go ahead and nerf them as well. The EBR is for sure.



IAmBrexit #11 Posted 07 May 2020 - 11:22 PM

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View PostKalonianhydra, on 07 May 2020 - 10:13 PM, said:

That has nothing to do with it, if those tanks are OP, go ahead and nerf them as well. The EBR is for sure.

I don't mind having these reward tanks in the game. They're few and far between. It's funny to see in game the people who've earned them themselves and other people who have clearly purchased them through other means get destroyed in chat.



Spurtung #12 Posted 08 May 2020 - 05:44 AM

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NERF, the game.

Because commas matter.

 



malachi6 #13 Posted 08 May 2020 - 06:47 AM

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View PostIAmBrexit, on 07 May 2020 - 10:39 PM, said:

Geezer owns a AE Phase 1 & a EBR 75 and he's complaining about other OP tanks in the game, classic 

 

Owning a vehicle you are complaining about, in no way changes the validity of a comment about the vehicle. Look up tu quoque fallacy.



TankkiPoju #14 Posted 08 May 2020 - 06:54 AM

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LT-432 is a good tank, if you are a good player. Bad players will play it just as poorly as any other light tank.

 

Obj252u/Defender is ridiculously good, everyone agrees with that. WG won't nerf it because it's a premium tank, sold for real money.

 

279e / Chief might get nerfed, but it's very unlikely. Tbh bad players seem to do badly also in Chieftain because it's not that easy to play as 279e.

 

 



bnmm113 #15 Posted 08 May 2020 - 07:21 AM

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how about making the option (for prem tanks), that you can get a nerfed version with lets say 5000 gold, or keep the old one? then only sell the balanced version...

gold amount can be changed depending on state of nerfs.....



DeanWong #16 Posted 08 May 2020 - 08:32 AM

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I see OP is back to rant about gold ammo and premium tanks.

 

Wheel are crap, exception been EBR105. Played them all on the test server and I was glad I tested them there and not actually start a grind.

279e and Chief, good tanks played by good player =/= OP. They are however very strong currently but they will never be nerf. Changes to MM will be made in the near future.

Defender, craptank, gun trolls you so bad. Armor don't win you games so I don't understand the "OP" status.

LT-432, very good tank, but still need a good driver to make it work. Why is it OP? Is it idiot proof?

 

 



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Nerf non-paying players!

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View PostKalonianhydra, on 07 May 2020 - 08:14 PM, said:

This game needs to get big nerfs. Gold ammo for starters.

But also all the tanks that are way too good for the game today, premium and none premium.
start with all wheeled ones.
Then Obj 279e and T95/4201
LT-432
Defender/Obj 252U
The pattern is clear, STOP putting out overpowered tanks.
Almost all tanks needs to slow down. (except the ones that are under powered today)

We don't need any more buffs in the game, start nerfing OP tanks.

 

 

 

No issues killing the Defender.... its noob proof. but killable. I dont mind what heavy I'm in facing it

 

As for the 279e (hats off to those that  earned it ) that is just broken as fk in this game, they know it, WG knows it, as is the EBR 105, I'd arguably say the 907 is also but I can deal with them now.  I find the 430/430U more of an issue (I own one) due to anyone can get it. 

 

I ruined a 297e's game yesterday on mountain pass due to focusing him with arty killed him but not before him destroying a 5A, SC and Spaghetti 65, and ending the game on 4k+ damage plus.



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View PostSonOfNobby, on 07 May 2020 - 09:26 PM, said:

Are you for real?

Are you seriously trying to suggest that the Defender and the 279e are balanced tanks?


Defender is well past its prime and it's more or less a next-gen IS-6 now - tough armor that's very forgiving of mistakes and an abysmal gun (at least IS-6 has DPM and does not see Tier 10 c<bleep> ).

Object 279(e) sure it's broken OP but neither WG nor owners of the tank want to admit it (or if they do, they do when no one is listening), and of course Chieftain but that is less braindead compared to Object so SOMEHOW that makes it slightly less crazy.

 

That being said, I agree with OP here. I'm fine with premium tanks being equal to techtree tanks because no one wants to grind credits/exp in a piniata. When they are BETTER though then things are not working as intended, and WG has been releasing better-than-techtree premiums for a long time (often as downscaled and detuned counterparts to Tier 10, see Renegade and Progetto 46).



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View PostSonOfNobby, on 07 May 2020 - 08:26 PM, said:

Are you for real?

Are you seriously trying to suggest that the Defender and the 279e are balanced tanks?

Yes they are balanced... Every other tank is not :)






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