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KennyCZ #1 Posted 06 January 2012 - 10:45 AM

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I have AMX12t and why this tank have this sh*t turret..I cant see/shoot up...:(
is this a bug or it is a normal?

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redstorm222 #2 Posted 06 January 2012 - 12:18 PM

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It's normal, so when someone is on a cliff and you're beneath him, you 're screwed.  :Smile_great:

hetismij #3 Posted 06 January 2012 - 12:46 PM

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Or when ur on any form of hill. This single feature makes me hate this tank even more than I hated the M3 Lee.

IJsBlok #4 Posted 06 January 2012 - 02:04 PM

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Get used to it, you will be fine.
The following AMX13 tanks have the same "problem"

Remember you are light, but with a medium gun! So besides scouting you can snipe and scoot away! More a roll for the AMX13-75 and AMX13-90

PadyEos #5 Posted 06 January 2012 - 02:06 PM

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View PostIJsBlok, on 06 January 2012 - 02:04 PM, said:

Get used to it, you will be fine.

The following AMX13 tanks have the same "problem"

AMX 12t = decent speed, bad maneuverability, crappy gun, no armor, very low HP, no gun depression or elevation and facing tiers 8-9 with a gun that bounces off a tier 5. Did I miss anything?

Zodiac92 #6 Posted 06 January 2012 - 02:37 PM

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View PostPadyEos, on 06 January 2012 - 02:06 PM, said:

AMX 12t = decent speed, bad maneuverability, crappy gun, no armor, very low HP, no gun depression or elevation and facing tiers 8-9 with a gun that bounces off a tier 5. Did I miss anything?
Every shot that hits you will destroy your engine  :Smile_great:

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View PostPadyEos, on 06 January 2012 - 02:06 PM, said:

AMX 12t = decent speed, bad maneuverability, crappy gun, no armor, very low HP, no gun depression or elevation and facing tiers 8-9 with a gun that bounces off a tier 5. Did I miss anything?

Hey it's not your job to be a frontline damage soaker. Get used to the new playstyle of hit and run tactics.

twistolation #8 Posted 06 January 2012 - 03:09 PM

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Yeah you could hit and run with it, but if even an ant breathes on it you are basicly dead

PadyEos #9 Posted 06 January 2012 - 03:13 PM

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Hit and run would be ok if it could penetrate anything bigger than a tier 5 and not get 2 shotted by any tier 6... Basically until you unload all 6 shells to take a Sherman down it can kill you. Only a glorified attention diverter... Not very good in that role either, a golden D*** on wheels would be better in that role.

hetismij #10 Posted 06 January 2012 - 03:32 PM

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I give up. I quite playing the French line.

I just hate the (now fully upgraded) amx12t so much. I HATE HATE HATE HATE it.

MAN it SUCKS.



Back to the decent tanks again.

Abonimus #11 Posted 06 January 2012 - 05:15 PM

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View PostPadyEos, on 06 January 2012 - 02:06 PM, said:

AMX 12t = decent speed, bad maneuverability, crappy gun, no armor, very low HP, no gun depression or elevation and facing tiers 8-9 with a gun that bounces off a tier 5. Did I miss anything?

Dont think you forgot anything.

You end up in tier 8 - 9 battles waaaaaaaay to much. Not to mention you cant kill anything ... Dont think any other tank has this horrible gun depression. Ended up against a KV as top tier once and i got one shot...

I dislike it case its really horrible.Aint sure if i plan to continue playing it case next tier looks like more of the same.

And tbh AMX40 was even worse.

MordecaiISC #12 Posted 06 January 2012 - 05:54 PM

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One more thing to add:

So far this is the only tank in game which can get stuck on a tree if it hits it with it's side... I couldnt move either forward or backward...

Spoiler                     

After rather long struggle I managed to get free. Somehow.

So, my advice: avoid trees.

GehakteMolen #13 Posted 06 January 2012 - 08:04 PM

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well, so far im really dissapointed in the french tanks, there just baaaaaaaaaaad

the amx-12 is the weakest tier 5 tank, fighting matches a KV (strongest tier 5) would have a hard time.

also the tank is plain fail overall

and higher tier seem to be just as crap (they alwasy die in awefull ways) and so far they seem the weakest in all tier....

ps: and this has NOTING to do with: learn to play or people should adapt, because with all other releases the new stuff was pwning from the start (US heavys, tier 9 meds, Object 704, E-serie etc) its just the french fail HARD...

michaelius #14 Posted 06 January 2012 - 10:02 PM

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I could live with all other crap but when even slightest change of terrain elevation makes it impossible to hit enemy something is wrong.

bomzaklis #15 Posted 06 January 2012 - 10:17 PM

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View PostTheStigMKD, on 06 January 2012 - 02:40 PM, said:

Hey it's not your job to be a frontline damage soaker. Get used to the new playstyle of hit and run tactics.
That's a nice suggestion, except it can't hit and it definitely can't run, even with high octane fuel. And if that wasn't enough, every second hit to the hull causes critical engine damage and roots you in place.

tarellond #16 Posted 06 January 2012 - 10:27 PM

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I am VERY glad i am over this ... next tank, AMX 13 75, has some chance in fights, mainly because of slightly better gun. I actually managed to take down two types 59 in prochorovka with amx 13 75, my enemies were handling their tanks poorly and they had huge issues with hitting me while i was circling. And when i was reloading, i just hide behind a small hill. The very essence of what all french light tanks should probably be capable of - and they somehow are.
Except for amx 12t. That is the pain. But not your oponents. Yours.

TrackLord #17 Posted 07 January 2012 - 05:23 AM

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Could I aske afew questions of this tank please?

1. I'm not liking the french line so far tanks very slow and weak guns, I'm on the amx40, do things improve much with this 12t? I liked the easy8 is this similar? If so I would cosider it a big improvement on amx40.

2. It seems to have good max speed in its stats does it ever reach 60kph? I was staggered to find the amx40 could get to about 45kph when I went down a hill one time its 10-20kph mostly. Can 12t get to max speed or only downhill?

3. I find acceleration can be more important that top speed, how is that?

4. Are all of its guns on the 12t autoloaders? If not which are and aren't?

5. What are the repair costs and normal ccredit earning like? Is like other tier 5s and a nice profit maker?  For example, more than 10k credits clear profit on a above average win, with about 70% damage taken.

5. How would this compare to Chaffee?

Thanks for any info you can offer.

Exard3k #18 Posted 07 January 2012 - 07:13 AM

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1. In terms of speed the AMX 12 is comparable with KV-13 or M7 (M7 is a bit faster), cant say anything about easy 8 so far.
2. AMX 40 is basically a slow heavy tank, where AMX 12 is more of a fast medium. Its totally different.
3. Acceleration is good, but tracks are shitty so you lose a lot of speed while turning (researched tracks)
4. Yes, all of them.
5. If you can score some hits, its a good moneymaker. But with light tank MM you will have to earn your credits by damaging Tier7+ Tanks mostly.  Repair costs are around 3-3,5k. Ammo costs are 46c/shot, so nothing really worth mentioning.
6. can't say anything about that.

edit: crew is @86% right now. Using Vent + GLD + Toolbox

Alpharius #19 Posted 07 January 2012 - 07:25 AM

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View PostTrackLord, on 07 January 2012 - 05:23 AM, said:

Could I aske afew questions of this tank please?

1. I'm not liking the french line so far tanks very slow and weak guns, I'm on the amx40, do things improve much with this 12t? I liked the easy8 is this similar? If so I would cosider it a big improvement on amx40.

For me, the things improved alot with the AMX12t. (Skipped the Amx40 with free exp because it was horrible). I like the E8 too, if that might help you.

View PostTrackLord, on 07 January 2012 - 05:23 AM, said:

2. It seems to have good max speed in its stats does it ever reach 60kph? I was staggered to find the amx40 could get to about 45kph when I went down a hill one time its 10-20kph mostly. Can 12t get to max speed or only downhill?

With engine and tracks upgraded it reaches the max speed after a while. Downhill its faster on max ofc.

View PostTrackLord, on 07 January 2012 - 05:23 AM, said:

3. I find acceleration can be more important that top speed, how is that?

Not the best, not the worst. For me its ok.

View PostTrackLord, on 07 January 2012 - 05:23 AM, said:

4. Are all of its guns on the 12t autoloaders? If not which are and aren't?

All its guns are autoloaders.

View PostTrackLord, on 07 January 2012 - 05:23 AM, said:

5. What are the repair costs and normal ccredit earning like? Is like other tier 5s and a nice profit maker?  For example, more than 10k credits clear profit on a above average win, with about 70% damage taken.

Its a solid Creditmaker. Fully destroyed its around 3k repair and a good round gives about 10-20k profit (i play with premium). Ammo is cheap too.


View PostTrackLord, on 07 January 2012 - 05:23 AM, said:

5. How would this compare to Chaffee?


Not played the Chaffee yet.


Edit: Here is a replay of a rather good match from tonight. Maybe it will answer some of your questions better: http://www.mediafire...i3yz33n8  (tank is fully upgraded with 85-ish crew)

MCHammond #20 Posted 07 January 2012 - 11:33 AM

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I dont get why some think this tank is bad? the AMX 12t is an awsome tank. I own all three tier 5 lights and this can kill all of them easy. It has a unique playing style but once you get used to it you can take down prey 4 times your size.

I eat KV's in it, and the armour is good for a tier 5 light, it seems to bounce alot for me. I have killed/damaged alot of heavy tanks in this beast. all thous talking about this being a bad gun are obvously pointing the wrong end at the enemy. Its the best gun on any of the tier 5 lights by far.

The closest tank in tearms of playing style i can think of is the Panther 1. but once you add in the magazine system its totaly deadly, its a shock and owe tank with a tiny size that is often missed by even the most pro gunner with expert shot leading skills.

Yes if you try and snipe you will get owned, the best tactic is to flank and find a hiding place, then pop out and empty and entire clip into the side of an enemy then role back and hide to reload the mag. Its also a medium tank killer, Type 59's can be easly penetrated with its gun and if you catch one off gaurd you can deal lots of damage.

Yes you might not get alot of kills and you might get one shotted some times, but its not a scout. If you play this tank like a scout you fail, play it more like a panther 1 with anger issues and you have a winner.




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