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hellhound6 #1 Posted 08 May 2020 - 06:43 PM

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I think this is not normal.

Well we all know that its different if you win or lose. We getting different xp and credits

But this is totally crap

At the first screen, I got base Xp 476

At the second 590

Look at the stats, 

 

I have 732 Damage and assist at the first

And have 3600 at the second

Even blocked more

And almost the same xp

And mastery badge 3 on both :bajan:

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Homer_J #2 Posted 08 May 2020 - 06:45 PM

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Where's the detailed results tab?

GodTank2 #3 Posted 08 May 2020 - 06:47 PM

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On 1 game you won by doing nothing and the other you lost and did ok. Win has more Exp multipliers while defeat has less. If you win and do 0 dmg you will get less EXP than if you lose and do 3k damage

hellhound6 #4 Posted 08 May 2020 - 07:07 PM

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View PostGodTank2, on 08 May 2020 - 06:47 PM, said:

On 1 game you won by doing nothing and the other you lost and did ok. Win has more Exp multipliers while defeat has less. If you win and do 0 dmg you will get less EXP than if you lose and do 3k damage

Really?

Yeah I know that

Look at this

http://wotreplays.eu/site/5362114#karelia-themammoth-m4a3e8_fury

This guy have slightly better result then me and he got mastery badge

I don't think that its normal multiplier btw

View PostHomer_J, on 08 May 2020 - 06:45 PM, said:

Where's the detailed results tab?

What details do you want to know?

Hope sharing other players replay is ok as long as its public right?



GodTank2 #5 Posted 08 May 2020 - 07:11 PM

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View Posthellhound6, on 08 May 2020 - 08:07 PM, said:

Really?

Yeah I know that

Look at this

http://wotreplays.eu/site/5362114#karelia-themammoth-m4a3e8_fury

This guy have slightly better result then me and he got mastery badge

I don't think that its normal multiplier btw

Thats because he won the game. Also he did a bit more than you. A win gives you more Exp than a loss.



Balc0ra #6 Posted 08 May 2020 - 07:14 PM

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3 things to consider. A: There is a 5x event on, not counted on a loss. B: There is also a 2x for each win after the 5x. So even more XP for less on a win. C: You also have to consider that you usually win by destroying the enemy team. Thus you get more of the team bonus XP based on damage done to the enemy team in total. On a loss, more enemy targets remain with more HP. And thus you get less of the team effort XP on top of the no bonus for a win.

 

Combine those 3, and you see why you got more for less on the first one.

 

 



Bulldog_Drummond #7 Posted 08 May 2020 - 07:14 PM

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View PostGodTank2, on 08 May 2020 - 06:11 PM, said:

Thats because he won the game. Also he did a bit more than you. A win gives you more Exp than a loss.

 

Why do WG keep these vital details secret?



hellhound6 #8 Posted 08 May 2020 - 07:16 PM

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View PostGodTank2, on 08 May 2020 - 07:11 PM, said:

Thats because he won the game. Also he did a bit more than you. A win gives you more Exp than a loss.

I know this

But I remember that its possible to get even mastery badge on lost battle (I am not saying that I could take mastery badge)

Just when I am losing battle with about 5X better results and getting the same result as won battle but 5X worse stats its not normal

So if we compare this 2 situation, I need to have 5X better result then this guy in lost game to get mastery badge? Is this true?



StronkiTonki #9 Posted 08 May 2020 - 07:24 PM

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Winning gives you a coefficient in exp of 1.5.

Spotting damage only gives you half of the exp.

Damage you deal to enemies that are being spotted by your allies also only give you half the exp.

Blocking damage does not grant any extra exp.


Edited by StronkiTonki, 08 May 2020 - 07:27 PM.


NUKLEAR_SLUG #10 Posted 08 May 2020 - 07:37 PM

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View PostBulldog_Drummond, on 08 May 2020 - 07:14 PM, said:

 

Why do WG keep these vital details secret?

 

Because if they didn't you would just see similar problems as we've seen with other events where players attempt to game the system by making the effort to win. Do you really want to see a repeat of the T22 medium fiasco? 



_AiSaatana #11 Posted 08 May 2020 - 07:43 PM

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View PostStronkiTonki, on 08 May 2020 - 06:24 PM, said:

Winning gives you a coefficient in exp of 1.5.

Spotting damage only gives you half of the exp.

Damage you deal to enemies that are being spotted by your allies also only give you half the exp.

Blocking damage does not grant any extra exp.

I Have a feeling that bouncing stuff actually gives XP. I have seen many times some jap heavy just sitting there doing nothing and getting ridiculous XP considered The damage and assist he has done.

 

I also did 8k bouncing on 703 122. It was 4k damage game and 1800base XP which should be impossible with that damage on that matchmaking (tier8-7)


Edited by _AiSaatana, 08 May 2020 - 07:43 PM.


Bulldog_Drummond #12 Posted 08 May 2020 - 07:45 PM

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View PostNUKLEAR_SLUG, on 08 May 2020 - 06:37 PM, said:

 

Because if they didn't you would just see similar problems as we've seen with other events where players attempt to game the system by making the effort to win. Do you really want to see a repeat of the T22 medium fiasco? 

 

I have no time for those scoundrels who make an effort to win games

I have seared memories of the great 2014 T-46 scandal



Homer_J #13 Posted 08 May 2020 - 07:57 PM

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View Post_AiSaatana, on 08 May 2020 - 07:43 PM, said:

I Have a feeling that bouncing stuff actually gives XP.

It doesn't.

 

View Posthellhound6, on 08 May 2020 - 07:07 PM, said:

 

What details do you want to know?

 

Everything on the detailed results tab.



jabster #14 Posted 08 May 2020 - 08:02 PM

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View Posthellhound6, on 08 May 2020 - 05:43 PM, said:

I think this is not normal.

Well we all know that its different if you win or lose. We getting different xp and credits

But this is totally crap

At the first screen, I got base Xp 476

At the second 590

Look at the stats, 

 

I have 732 Damage and assist at the first

And have 3600 at the second

Even blocked more

And almost the same xp

And mastery badge 3 on both :bajan:


Do you ever stop moaning?



_AiSaatana #15 Posted 08 May 2020 - 08:03 PM

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View PostHomer_J, on 08 May 2020 - 06:57 PM, said:

It doesn't.

 

Everything on the detailed results tab.

 

May i Ask your source of your information?

 

On wgs official article: "active military action" gives XP. I guess one could count bouncing stuff to that.


Edited by _AiSaatana, 08 May 2020 - 08:17 PM.


LethalWalou #16 Posted 08 May 2020 - 08:09 PM

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View PostGodTank2, on 08 May 2020 - 06:11 PM, said:

Thats because he won the game. Also he did a bit more than you. A win gives you more Exp than a loss.

 

And not only because of win bonus but mostly because of the bonus everyone gets based on the damage the team does to enemies. Even if you do nothing, in terms of damage or spotting, in a winning game and your team destroys all the enemies, you will get ~400exp.



General_Jack_D_Ripper #17 Posted 08 May 2020 - 08:12 PM

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View Posthellhound6, on 08 May 2020 - 06:43 PM, said:

I think this is not normal.

Well we all know that its different if you win or lose. We getting different xp and credits

But this is totally crap

At the first screen, I got base Xp 476

At the second 590

Look at the stats, 

 

I have 732 Damage and assist at the first

And have 3600 at the second

Even blocked more

And almost the same xp

And mastery badge 3 on both :bajan:

 

The XP each team-member is awarded also consists of the cumulative XP for all damaged/destroyed  enemy tanks.

The more enemy tanks survive, the less XP is received. (That is also the reason why fast capping is a bad idea).

So in a loss u get a lot less XP, if you were the only one doing damage. Maybe that happened here.


Edited by General_Jack_D_Ripper, 08 May 2020 - 08:13 PM.


Homer_J #18 Posted 08 May 2020 - 08:29 PM

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View Post_AiSaatana, on 08 May 2020 - 08:03 PM, said:

 

May i Ask your source of your information?

 

On wgs official article: "active military action" gives XP. I guess one could count bouncing stuff to that.

 

You could but it doesn't.

 

"active military action" is being in the vicinity of the battle, which is something WG have never exactly defined.

 

Ranked battles give EXP for tanking but as far as random battles go it is still something WG are thinking about.



EliteDirk121 #19 Posted 10 May 2020 - 07:58 PM

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You are just a whining little kid. Losing games gives you less exp. It has ALWAYS been like this. An awesome loss is just as good as a shitty victory. The game pushes you to win your games. You need to get good and play to win and not to farm up your stats.




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