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saxsan4 #1 Posted 09 May 2020 - 11:41 AM

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The Sentinel tier 4 is god but with 4 dmg and since dmg buff it needs to not meet tier 6s as its useless



Balc0ra #2 Posted 09 May 2020 - 11:50 AM

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If it was slow as the Matilda with that gun? I would 100% agree with you. But as it can do 60, and has a fairly good ROF, and is not a bad scout if need be on some maps. It's not 100% useless in a +2 vs some other tier 4's tbh.

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View PostBalc0ra, on 09 May 2020 - 10:50 AM, said:

If it was slow as the Matilda with that gun? I would 100% agree with you. But as it can do 60, and has a fairly good ROF, and is not a bad scout if need be on some maps. It's not 100% useless in a +2 vs some other tier 4's tbh.


How can you kill tier 6s with 45 dmg after the hp buff?



nc30_guy #4 Posted 09 May 2020 - 11:55 AM

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They should never have given hp increase to low tier vehicles its only made things far worse its more unbalanced than ever.

saxsan4 #5 Posted 09 May 2020 - 12:01 PM

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View Postnc30_guy, on 09 May 2020 - 10:55 AM, said:

They should never have given hp increase to low tier vehicles its only made things far worse its more unbalanced than ever.


Light VC is unplayable now 



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The Sentinel is not much liked, but I am quite fond of mine and have been playing it quite a bit in recent days as a trainer for my new Cavalier crew

The armour is pretty decent and although it crawls up hills it is okay on the flat and I have done 80 kph in it going down the hill in El Halluf

The alpha and DPM on the gun are poor, but it has high pen, 

53% wins over 200+ games in mine, which I think is respectable

You could make a case for it being moved to tier 3 like the Val, although I think it might be a bit OP there


Edited by Bulldog_Drummond, 09 May 2020 - 12:05 PM.


saxsan4 #7 Posted 09 May 2020 - 12:10 PM

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View PostBulldog_Drummond, on 09 May 2020 - 11:02 AM, said:

The Sentinel is not much liked, but I am quite fond of mine and have been playing it quite a bit in recent days as a trainer for my new Cavalier crew

The armour is pretty decent and although it crawls up hills it is okay on the flat and I have done 80 kph in it going down the hill in El Halluf

The alpha and DPM on the gun are poor, but it has high pen, 

53% wins over 200+ games in mine, which I think is respectable

You could make a case for it being moved to tier 3 like the Val, although I think it might be a bit OP there


It would be too strong at tier 3, tier 4 is the correct place but needs preff mm



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View Postsaxsan4, on 09 May 2020 - 11:10 AM, said:


It would be too strong at tier 3, tier 4 is the correct place but needs preff mm

 

I reckon it can contribute in Tier 6 games as it has good spotting and camo, and a fair turn of speed.

And the APCR has 121 pen, which is as good as it gets for most tier 4s that are not TDs.


Edited by Bulldog_Drummond, 09 May 2020 - 12:16 PM.


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View PostBulldog_Drummond, on 09 May 2020 - 11:15 AM, said:

 

I reckon it can contribute in Tier 6 games as it has good spotting and camo, and a fair turn of speed.

And the APCR has 121 pen, which is as good as it gets for any tier 4 that is not a TD.


I didn't spend money to sit around spotting for other tanks

 

also it doesnt change the fact that the dmg is so low, how can you kill kv2 with 45 dmg?


Edited by saxsan4, 09 May 2020 - 12:17 PM.


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View Postsaxsan4, on 09 May 2020 - 11:16 AM, said:


I didn't spend money to sit around spotting for other tanks

 

also it doesnt change the fact that the dmg is so low, how can you kill kv2 with 45 dmg?

 

I think mine cost £5, so with 200+ games I have had my money's worth.

Obviously it can't kill a KV2 but then neither can a Matilda or any other tier 4 medium unless it sits in a bush and uses binos


Edited by Bulldog_Drummond, 09 May 2020 - 12:21 PM.


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View PostBulldog_Drummond, on 09 May 2020 - 11:20 AM, said:

 

I think mine cost £5, so with 200+ games I have had my money's worth.

Obviously it can't kill a KV2 but then neither can a Matilda or any other tier 4 medium


Matilda has 121 pen as standard so yes it can



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View Postsaxsan4, on 09 May 2020 - 11:21 AM, said:


Matilda has 121 pen as standard so yes it can

 

And the Sentinel has 121 pen APCR

But the KV2 will still one-shot both of them



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View PostBulldog_Drummond, on 09 May 2020 - 11:23 AM, said:

 

And the Sentinel has 121 pen APCR

But the KV2 will still one-shot both of them


and how many shots do you need to fire with 45 dmg to kill one? you'll loose 10s of thousands. If all mm was +1/-1 the game would be 10 times better



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View Postsaxsan4, on 09 May 2020 - 11:24 AM, said:


and how many shots do you need to fire with 45 dmg to kill one? you'll loose 10s of thousands. If all mm was +1/-1 the game would be 10 times better

 

If I went toe to toe vs a KV2 in my Matilda, or any other tier 4 tank, I would be wearing my brown trousers, as the first thing that will happen is that you will get penned for 900 damage

So I can't see that the Sentinel would do any worse in that situation than a Matilda.  It can also scoot around the map, which the Matilda cannot.  The Matilda is obviously the more effective tank, but I'd say that the Sentinel was still above average.

Personally I like the +2 MM.  My favourite tier to play is tier 4, generally regarded as the worst tier in the game, but my keepers there are mostly those with high enough pen guns at least to do some damage to any opponent.  The Ke-Ho and Pz 38(t)na being examples


Edited by Bulldog_Drummond, 09 May 2020 - 12:38 PM.





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