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saxsan4 #1 Posted 09 May 2020 - 03:24 PM

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Hello,

 

Thank you for good feedbacks from part 1

 

now to part 2

 

Scorpion 2 / Scorpion 90 (I prefer scorpion 2) tier 10 CW reward tank

 

90 mm gun but goes as fast forwards as back, will keep up with ebrs. Give it excellent camo rating. 

Fastest tank in real life with 82km speed so will be very good tank and 72km back speed

 

Armour is 12.7mm slopped to give effectiveness 25mm, so it won't be bouncing anything 

 

Spoiler

 

Next up we have

 

Churchil AVre

 

I propose to make a mini tank tree like the Russians double barrelled tanks here

 

Tier 7 churchil AVRE leads of Churchill VII

Big derp gun  290mm

 

Spoiler

 

Tier 8 Churchil AVRE 2

 

Same but better chase and bigger gun

 

Spoiler

 

Tier 9 Ardeer Aggie , even bigger gun (300mm)

 

Spoiler

 

Tier 10 Chieftain AVRE

 

165mm gun firing HESH SHELLS , like a mini death star, chieftain chasis

 

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Tier 10 Campaign reward for 3rd campaign 

 

Centurion AVRE, same 165mm hesh firing gun on Chieftain but slightly longer reload and of course much worse chasis but faster 

 

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A20 heavy tank 

Tier 3 campaign reward tank for 3rd lot of campaigns 

 

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A7E3 medium , tier 3 Medium tank premium tank

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Prodgal - tier 10 autoloader  TD - Collectors vehicle 

 

Smaller Foch B

 

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Super Excelsior Tier 7 Premium heavy 

 

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Heavy Valient - Tier 7 Premium Heavy tank - even slower than the valiant soon to be in the game and even stronger armour, up to 25

APCR as standard 

Same gun which is even worse at tier 7

 

19km top speed

 

220 mm uppe plate 

210 lower plate

140mm side armour

Turret front is 250mm thick 

 

Spoiler

 

The No 2 Tank - Tier 2 Heavy tank, given to all players as Christmas gift 

 

3pdr (47mm) gun 

24km top speed

Spoiler

 

Self-Propelled-Gun (Tier 2 premium spg)

 

Fully transversal turret, reward for weekend marathon 

 

Spoiler

 

Churchil NA 75 Tier 5 Premium Tank

Spoiler

 


Edited by saxsan4, 09 May 2020 - 03:25 PM.


mateyflip #2 Posted 09 May 2020 - 05:11 PM

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Lmao @t2 spg.

 

 

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qpranger #3 Posted 09 May 2020 - 06:10 PM

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I approve.

saxsan4 #4 Posted 09 May 2020 - 08:31 PM

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View Postmateyflip, on 09 May 2020 - 04:11 PM, said:

Lmao @t2 spg.

 

 

What what


it just looks so strnage I would buy



shikaka9 #5 Posted 09 May 2020 - 08:33 PM

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Tier 10 Chieftain AVRE

 

:teethhappy:

 

this is tragedy

 

 

more like tier6

 


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saxsan4 #6 Posted 09 May 2020 - 09:20 PM

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View Postshikaka9, on 09 May 2020 - 07:33 PM, said:

Tier 10 Chieftain AVRE

 

:teethhappy:

 

this is tragedy

 

 

more like tier6

 


No its too oP tier 6, would be excellent tank, and unlike many tier 10s has some curvature



Dava_117 #7 Posted 09 May 2020 - 09:40 PM

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Heavy Valiant is far too armoured for a tier 7.

And the AVRE tanks should never get into the game IMO. We already have people complaining for the KV-2, that has a 152mm howitzer, and you want to put a 290mm one at tier 7? That thing should have 2-3k alpha! And going up tiers we just don't need more derpguns.



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View PostDava_117, on 09 May 2020 - 08:40 PM, said:

Heavy Valiant is far too armoured for a tier 7.

And the AVRE tanks should never get into the game IMO. We already have people complaining for the KV-2, that has a 152mm howitzer, and you want to put a 290mm one at tier 7? That thing should have 2-3k alpha! And going up tiers we just don't need more derpguns.


Not true, the heavy vlaneint has 91 pen, whats that gonna do any higher tiers? and at7 has less armour than it

 

and derp guns we need as they are fun to play



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View Postsaxsan4, on 09 May 2020 - 08:53 PM, said:


Not true, the heavy vlaneint has 91 pen, whats that gonna do any higher tiers? and at7 has less armour than it

 

and derp guns we need as they are fun to play

 

Problem is - 183mm (fv183/4005)  HE does 1750dmg with 92mm pen, JgpzE100 with 17cm HE does 1400dmg with 85mm pen - what will the the alpha of the 290mm look like? 2-3k dmg as said.

 

Same problem with the german Sturmtiger with its 380mm armament - the alpha would just be insane no matter the pen... Makes the ISU152 and KV-2 look like pew pew guns...


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I often wonder what the British Engineers were thinking.



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Cent AVRE all the way!

saxsan4 #12 Posted 09 May 2020 - 10:36 PM

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View Postfrange, on 09 May 2020 - 09:27 PM, said:

 

Problem is - 183mm (fv183/4005)  HE does 1750dmg with 92mm pen, JgpzE100 with 17cm HE does 1400dmg with 85mm pen - what will the the alpha of the 290mm look like? 2-3k dmg as said.

 

Same problem with the german Sturmtiger with its 380mm armament - the alpha would just be insane no matter the pen... Makes the ISU152 and KV-2 look like pew pew guns...


They can change it as it doesnt fire HE shells but some other form.

 

900 alpha dmg 35 pen 

 

the 165 hash rounds will be 200 pen 1,300 dmg like smaller FV death star

 

300mm will be 1,000 dmg with 45 pen

 

problem solved 



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View PostDaniulSims, on 09 May 2020 - 09:30 PM, said:

I often wonder what the British Engineers were thinking.


Very imaginative designs, which is your favourite 



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View Postsaxsan4, on 09 May 2020 - 07:31 PM, said:


it just looks so strnage I would buy

 

A mini FV 4005, it's a FV 0.4005

 

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View Postsaxsan4, on 09 May 2020 - 06:24 AM, said:

Self-Propelled-Gun (Tier 2 premium spg)

 

Fully transversal turret, reward for weekend marathon 

 

Spoiler

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCNum4YAXSc

Did u just suggest ANOTHER arta? WG ban him pls.

Would love a derp line tho.



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View PostDaniulSims, on 09 May 2020 - 09:30 PM, said:

I often wonder what the British Engineers were thinking.

 

I think they were looking for something to get rid of enemy fortifications etc - as such the AVRE tanks would have no place on the front line of a battlefield



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View PostDaniulSims, on 09 May 2020 - 09:30 PM, said:

I often wonder what the British Engineers were thinking.


How to provide combat engineer support from an existing design perhaps?



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View Postsaxsan4, on 09 May 2020 - 09:53 PM, said:


Not true, the heavy vlaneint has 91 pen, whats that gonna do any higher tiers? and at7 has less armour than it

 

AT7 has no turret. That armour layout is simply too much for tier 7. That armour is tier 9 level, even tier 10 as I understand it has a pikenose from the drawings. The fact that the gun is trash doesn't matter. Or you mount a fake gun and bring it to tier 9-10, as a reward tank, or you keep the historical gun and reduce armour to a more acceptable level for tier 7. And even the it would still be trash with that gun.

 

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 and derp guns we need as they are fun to play

 

Derps may be fun at low tiers, where you have very few costs and gameplay is relaxed. But from tier 8 those kinds of tanks just ruin gameplay. I have no problem with a high caliber gun that can shoot HE at price of effective DPM, but HE only guns no.



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Great post, some interesting tanks there that could make it into the game, we deffo need more British tanks WG !!!

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How about a Churchill Crocodile?

Mk VII Churchill with 75mm or 95mm gun

Flamethrower causes automatic engine fire on any enemy tank targeted within 150 m






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