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oBmg #1 Posted 10 May 2020 - 09:43 PM

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This game has changed. Teams have changed. In my opinion to often teams now  act like bots,much more than before. Entire team going one side is in almost every third game now. This is impossible as if players have IQ of a lower primates so often.

 

I am talking about tier VIII and IX games, not lower tiers.

 

Did they secretly introduced bots?



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Has been like this for years, ever since I got good.

NUKLEAR_SLUG #3 Posted 10 May 2020 - 09:55 PM

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View PostoBmg, on 10 May 2020 - 09:43 PM, said:

Did they secretly introduced bots?


WG bots are competent, so no.



BravelyRanAway #4 Posted 10 May 2020 - 10:03 PM

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View PostoBmg, on 10 May 2020 - 08:43 PM, said:

Did they secretly introduced bots?

They have already used bots on other servers, we know what they are like and how they operate and how to spot them and WG were quite open about them.....so, no, there are no bots on the EU servers yet and most likely will not be for many years.



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View PostoBmg, on 10 May 2020 - 09:43 PM, said:

This game has changed. Teams have changed. In my opinion to often teams now  act like bots,much more than before. Entire team going one side is in almost every third game now. This is impossible as if players have IQ of a lower primates so often.

 

I am talking about tier VIII and IX games, not lower tiers.

 

Did they secretly introduced bots?

 

 

 

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VsUK #6 Posted 10 May 2020 - 11:21 PM

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I was told quite openly by a lot of people including a forum mod that there's a mechanism that kids in called a streak breaker. Something that makes you win when you've been on a number of poor results. And its a system devised so not to discourage new players from leaving the game & give them hope that winning is possible if they persevere. So, if there's a mechanism that basically overrules the natural game play to make sure you win. It can also be used to make sure you lose.

Balc0ra #7 Posted 10 May 2020 - 11:35 PM

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People have been complaining about this for years. Tinfoil just changes owners along with the patch WG did this change that people point at.

BravelyRanAway #8 Posted 10 May 2020 - 11:38 PM

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View PostVsUK, on 10 May 2020 - 10:21 PM, said:

 including a forum mod

Forum mods are chosen from among the playerbase to moderate the forum, they have no input, nor are they given access to any kind of development information. What you have there is a mod, who carries their tin-foil hat with them and using their newfound status brandishes it as fact......BTW, I know a Nigerian prince who needs your help and he'll make it worth your while.



VsUK #9 Posted 10 May 2020 - 11:40 PM

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View PostBravelyRanAway, on 10 May 2020 - 10:38 PM, said:

Forum mods are chosen from among the playerbase to moderate the forum, they have no input, nor are they given access to any kind of development information. What you have there is a mod, who carries their tin-foil hat with them and using their newfound status brandishes it as fact......BTW, I know a Nigerian prince who needs your help and he'll make it worth your while.

I can quote you many forum mods posting views about the game. Mods post & express views, but they also moderate the forum. 


Edited by VsUK, 10 May 2020 - 11:53 PM.


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View PostVsUK, on 10 May 2020 - 10:40 PM, said:

I can quote you many forum mods posting views about the game, including bunny!

And it would mean absolutely nothing, they are chosen from the general playerbase for their manner and understanding of English.....nothing else!



VsUK #11 Posted 11 May 2020 - 12:04 AM

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View PostBravelyRanAway, on 10 May 2020 - 10:43 PM, said:

And it would mean absolutely nothing, they are chosen from the general playerbase for their manner and understanding of English.....nothing else!

I wasn't saying the view means anything, I just said they agreed with view of what was being said. Now a lot the players who said this still play or post to this day. So, are they going to come out & say their view back then was wrong? Which undermines the whole debate they had that was against my view that games are rigged to a point to make your ability to win as hard as possible without it being obvious. 



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View PostVsUK, on 10 May 2020 - 11:04 PM, said:

I wasn't saying the view means anything, 

Yes, you were, you were offering their view as proof.

But tell me....as you have dabbled in suspect modifications before and even complain about their use, how can they be useful if the game is rigged and why complain about them if what you believe is true?

It appears to me that you'll jump on any bandwagon to excuse your own performance.



Wintermute_1 #13 Posted 11 May 2020 - 12:19 AM

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View PostoBmg, on 10 May 2020 - 09:43 PM, said:

This game has changed. Teams have changed. In my opinion to often teams now  act like bots,much more than before... 

 

... before 6 months ago when you started that account? 

 

Because in WoT nothing changes in 6 months, it takes them longer than that to schedule a meeting to discuss ideas about making a change.



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View PostBravelyRanAway, on 10 May 2020 - 11:16 PM, said:

Yes, you were, you were offering their view as proof.

But tell me....as you have dabbled in suspect modifications before and even complain about their use, how can they be useful if the game is rigged and why complain about them if what you believe is true?

It appears to me that you'll jump on any bandwagon to excuse your own performance.

 

You realize you're having a discussion with an (editted) and they have dealt in more crackpot theories, delusions, imaginary quotes, and I think it happens so it must be true thoughts. Than a paranoid-schizoid out of medication, burning out in sleep deprivation and smoking crack.



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View PostTipperty, on 11 May 2020 - 06:16 AM, said:

 

You realize you're having a discussion with an (editted) and they have dealt in more crackpot theories, delusions, imaginary quotes, and I think it happens so it must be true thoughts. Than a paranoid-schizoid out of medication, burning out in sleep deprivation and smoking crack.

Unfortunately this time he's semi-correct, There was and old mechanism with the MM that would place you as top tier tank if you had indeed lost to many battles if memory serves me correctly. It wasn;t a "make you win" thing it just made you top tier. Now this was from years ago so I don't even know if this still exists or ever did but I do remember it being at least discussed. This is probably what he's been told.

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View Post_Signal_, on 11 May 2020 - 06:22 AM, said:

Unfortunately this time he's semi-correct, There was and old mechanism with the MM that would place you as top tier tank if you had indeed lost to many battles if memory serves me correctly. It wasn;t a "make you win" thing it just made you top tier. Now this was from years ago so I don't even know if this still exists or ever did but I do remember it being at least discussed. This is probably what he's been told.

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I don’t believe that was anything more than a mechanism described in the patent. There was a bit of a kerfuffle when it was reported as implemented on FTR but that blog entry was later retracted as the source was demonstrated to be less than reliable.



Tipperty #17 Posted 11 May 2020 - 11:51 AM

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View Post_Signal_, on 11 May 2020 - 06:22 AM, said:

Unfortunately this time he's semi-correct, There was and old mechanism with the MM that would place you as top tier tank if you had indeed lost to many battles if memory serves me correctly. It wasn;t a "make you win" thing it just made you top tier. Now this was from years ago so I don't even know if this still exists or ever did but I do remember it being at least discussed. This is probably what he's been told.

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Bending half-truths to fit your theories doesn't make him right. Besides, developers come up with algorithms or programs all the time and the company they work for will always patent it, because while they might not use it. They will get money from other companies using it.

 

While I think MM makes some hilarious choices once in a while and RnG will throw your shots all over the place(I had a game yesterday where 21shot 19 hits and 2 pens) do I think WG is purposely stacking the odds against me, no. Do I think a lot of people will look at any excuse except for their own ability or skill to blame, yes!

 

After all, that guy, accused others of cheating and using cheats/scripts, while also using cheats/scripts themselves. That is an amazing amount of arrogance or short-sightedness. 



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its X5 exp weekend...so it's very normal people yolo and die fast, so they can switch to another tank...

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View PostoBmg, on 10 May 2020 - 08:43 PM, said:

This is impossible as if players have IQ of a lower primates so often.

 

 

GJ to them






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