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Pytos #1 Posted 06 January 2012 - 12:07 PM


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The new amx 40 has retarded matchmaking as it is classified as a tier 4 light tank. Sure it has good armor for its tier but you always get placed with higher tiers all of which can penetrate and one shot you. Its gun is weak and cant reliably penetrate tier 5 tanks. It also cant scout because you are happy if you can reach 20 km/h on even terain and it has poor view and signal range. Sure it is a beast in games with its own tier but it gets placed in tier VII games much more often than tier IV.
Imo it should not be classified as a light tank as the current matchmaking spread makes this tank a pain in the ass to drive.

tldr: amx40 gets placed in way too high tier games as it is certainly not a scout

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redstorm222 #2 Posted 06 January 2012 - 12:15 PM


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Yup, this thing gets really misplaced. When I used it, 8 out of 10 battles would be with tier 7, so my armor was useless. And your speed and gun won't save you in a tier 7 match. They should do something about the matchmaking with this tank. Hell, I even bought gold to get some free experience and skip it, And I NEVER  :o  spend real money for a game. This tank maybe good in its own tier, but really, when will you ever get in a good match.

pomp #3 Posted 06 January 2012 - 01:01 PM

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i was in a platoon yesterday, me in my AMX40 my bud in an AMX38 and we were put in a match against T10 tanks - AMX40 v IS7, i mean WTF is that about .... something really really needs to get sorted  :mellow:

Diplomatti #4 Posted 06 January 2012 - 01:03 PM


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the worst thing about it is, You HAVE to go through these T4lights to get up to french tree. In other trees, the t4 lights could be avoided.

Harim #5 Posted 06 January 2012 - 01:04 PM


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It is all about the idiotic matchmaking made by WG, there are trillions over trillions topics about this 'brilliant' system, BUT never forget, the matchmaker was never created with the intention to be funny for the players, this silly stuff of broken software was just created to make money for WG.

And also, never forget, u could write and suggest here on this 'official' forum what u want, the devs don't care about all this, because they don't read anything here... because they don't care about their community/playerbase. Ignorance is one of the terms of buisness for WG.

azakow #6 Posted 06 January 2012 - 01:14 PM


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What do you expect?

It is a LT 4!

It has more armor than a Leopard.
It has sloped armor.
It has similar gun.
It has less view range and speed.

I suggest to keep your ranting about the MM of it until you reach AMX 13 90 and come back then.

See you on the battlefield.  :Smile_honoring:

DanielisJ #7 Posted 06 January 2012 - 01:17 PM


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the amx 40 is good, i got a steel wall,i just steamrolled the enemy base with others :Smile-bajan2: ,check my profile for it :)

Steffenximus #8 Posted 06 January 2012 - 01:48 PM


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I'll polish my JagdPanther shells :D

Gigaton #9 Posted 06 January 2012 - 01:58 PM

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I must be missing something here. According to the MM chart, AMX 40 has special matchmaking and only ever sees tier 7 tanks. That's the same MM tier 4 meds have.

Did WG change the MM for release version, or are you guys going silly again?

bomzaklis #10 Posted 06 January 2012 - 02:01 PM


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Just wait 'til you get AMX 12t, driving AMX 40 is pure pleasure compared to that crap.

tntmux #11 Posted 06 January 2012 - 03:26 PM


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Agree, the other tier4 lights get in high tier battle cause they can scout. but amx40 is too slow to do so, it is just useless and helpless in high tier battles, thats why I used my global exp :)

Fiold #12 Posted 06 January 2012 - 04:33 PM


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Tier 6 is a max tier for this tank. In tier 4 you are the boss. In tier 5 you can do something (if you have a 75 mm gun). In tier 6... Not much to do - you can try to fight mediums and that is all. Too slow to scout, too weak to fight and in tier 6 its armor isn't anything special. So you should give that tank better gun and engine or don't place it in battles with tier 7 tanks.

Homer_J #13 Posted 06 January 2012 - 04:50 PM

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View PostPytos, on 06 January 2012 - 12:07 PM, said:

The new amx 40 has retarded matchmaking as it is classified as a tier 4 light tank.

It has it's own exclusion from the matchmaking which puts it on par with a tier 4 medium.  See the bottom chart.

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azdren #14 Posted 06 January 2012 - 06:29 PM


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View PostHomer_J, on 06 January 2012 - 04:50 PM, said:

It has it's own exclusion from the matchmaking which puts it on par with a tier 4 medium.  See the bottom chart.

Ahhh so awesome. At least now i wont feel sorry for selling the AMX 38 and forgetting about the french tree for a looong period of time(a.k.a only of they give me a free instant pass to t7 and above)

Silvar #15 Posted 07 January 2012 - 01:37 PM


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I have not yet gotten AMX 40 to go in fight that would have been below tier 6 games so i think it is somehow bugged.

I hate the damned thing slow as hell for LIGHT tank and not enough firepower to do anything to tier 6

I think it should be put in games with max tier 5 tanks

Tipenok #16 Posted 07 January 2012 - 04:14 PM


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Agree with OP.

Getting in T4 battle is fine... fighting against Tiger/Vk36/Kv_*/M6_7 and other T5(heavies)-6-7 is pointless.
And you get outclassed by T5 french AMX12(speed) or BDR G1B(power -one hit)

QuarterNinja #17 Posted 07 January 2012 - 06:44 PM


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AMX 40 is completely useless in present MM system. most of tanks AMX 40 is matched with will pen it without problems and at same time AMX 40 even with top gun cannot pen anything.

Other than cool looks it does not have anything good worth mentioning except of course if you get in match where AMX 40 is top tier, then things change and you can do some damage and ding a lot (and that is RARE!).

And grind 14K XP in that thing ... omg, I am at 7K and are already sick of it.

Honza_H34 #18 Posted 07 January 2012 - 08:36 PM

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Ok, but do you understand that it gets the same matchmaking as other tier4 tanks as T-28, M3Lee, PzIII, none of them has armor comparable to Amx40 and the last two of them have firepower comparable to Amx40? Yes, the french tank almost cannot move...but that is the price you pay for being the "Ugly ducky of doom" for tier3 tanks and even tier4 A-20 and pzIII have hard time penetrating you.

Inotus #19 Posted 08 January 2012 - 12:29 AM


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In higher tier battles:
-T-28 has speed to run away from stronger opponents or flank them and a gun that can hurt lots of stuff,
-M3 Lee is crappy overall, but has usefull gun,
-PzIII,A-20,M5 can scout,
-AMX 40 can't run away from enemy (slow), can't damage enemy (low pen gun), and can't scout (bad speed/view range/radio).

As you can see in every other tier 4 tank in tier 6-7 battle you can be somehow usefull. In Amx 40 the best thing you can do is to stay in base and wait till battle ends, hoping that you atleast damage a scout who rushed to your base. Just mind that it's gun have problems penetrating tier 4 scouts. I even bounced yesterday from the back of the M5 turret...

headake #20 Posted 08 January 2012 - 08:29 AM


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I have my AMX 40 now for a few days and yes it is the slowest tank I have ever driven... Has bad guns, with terrible accuracy. But, I have seen so much ricochets from my hull and turret, unbeleaveble. This tank bounces so much. Watch out for arty and high tiers, because they can one shot you. Wait untill you come across another AMX 40... Then the fun starts. Both tanks try to penetrate and this is very hard. Hit the weak spots like top MG turret and rear ventilator/cooling unit. Sides, front, main turret, tracks and barrel are not possible to penetrate...

I have played about 10 battles in it and 6-10 survived and won. You won't get the scout medal with it and sniper no, also not, steel wall is possible, confederate is also possible and also defender. Give it a change and grind through the 14k XP and get on to the AMX 12t. Anyway, I will play the tank until I have the XP for the AMX12t and sell the turtle, keep the crew and retrain them for AMX12t.

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