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norbar #1 Posted 14 May 2020 - 04:47 PM

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I don't complain about tank balance. Some tanks are better than others. It happens but as a person who does a fairly similar job to the balancing team but in a different medium (lots of numbers and yeah essentially creating an atteractive balanced product with it) can anyone explain to me why a t7 tank has a 900 dpm gun? A gun which has no autoloader, no high alpha. 

 

I understand stock guns are meant to be bad. 100% agree. Otherwise why upgrade but 900dpm? So a gun which would be considered bad at tier3 somehow lands at t7? I get a t5 gun but this? Seriously who made this decision. I don't even play the setter with the stock gun. I'm just a manager who wants to understand who made that decision, who agreed to it and if those people got fired why no one corrected them? Because this is a degree of incompetence I have never, ever seen in my life and I have worked with Italian TV companies...



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Coz its british its allowed to be bad. look at the whole line. not just 1 tank thats garbage.

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Its fine, is4 has 175 pen for its stock gun at tier 10

norbar #4 Posted 14 May 2020 - 05:13 PM

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View Postsaxsan4, on 14 May 2020 - 05:12 PM, said:

Its fine, is4 has 175 pen for its stock gun at tier 10

 

IS4 gets the ST-I gun so you dont have to play with the stock gun. It's a remnant of old line bs

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Coz its british its allowed to be bad. look at the whole line. not just 1 tank thats garbage.

 

I get it but there is garbage and there is complete nonsense. That's what surprises me. I get this being a bad line. Fine. But 900 dpm is beyond bad. It literally makes zero sense. 



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I blame Brexit!

 

What what



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View Postnorbar, on 14 May 2020 - 04:13 PM, said:

 

IS4 gets the ST-I gun so you dont have to play with the stock gun. It's a remnant of old line bs

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I get it but there is garbage and there is complete nonsense. That's what surprises me. I get this being a bad line. Fine. But 900 dpm is beyond bad. It literally makes zero sense. 


You should see EVEN90. its probably worse and its being sold for MONEY. lol



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View PostSearch_Warrant, on 14 May 2020 - 05:27 PM, said:


You should see EVEN90. its probably worse and its being sold for MONEY. lol

 

EVEN 90 is an awesome tank. Better gun + awesome camo + awesome size. 3 marked it before i migrated to EU



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British LT line is very bad.  I haven't kept any I went through to get to the Tier X.

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View PostHedgehog1963, on 14 May 2020 - 05:44 PM, said:

British LT line is very bad.  I haven't kept any I went through to get to the Tier X.

 

Again this isnt a topic on how bad is the british line. I 100% understand it's bad. Please read the premise. What surprises me is the stock gun is so bad it makes no sense even on a horrible tank



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View Postnorbar, on 14 May 2020 - 04:56 PM, said:

 

Again this isnt a topic on how bad is the british line. I 100% understand it's bad. Please read the premise. What surprises me is the stock gun is so bad it makes no sense even on a horrible tank

 

Well... it is now.



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View Postnorbar, on 14 May 2020 - 04:56 PM, said:

 

Again this isnt a topic on how bad is the british line. I 100% understand it's bad. Please read the premise. What surprises me is the stock gun is so bad it makes no sense even on a horrible tank

 

It's a tank and it's in the British line so it has everything to do with how bad the British line is :trollface:



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View PostHedgehog1963, on 14 May 2020 - 04:44 PM, said:

British LT line is very bad.  I haven't kept any I went through to get to the Tier X.


no they re not bad, the ae the best light tanks in the game



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View PostHedgehog1963, on 14 May 2020 - 05:58 PM, said:

 

Well... it is now.

Why change the topic to what we all know? Will you also mention that water is wet?

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no they re not bad, the ae the best light tanks in the game

 

LOL.



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View Postnorbar, on 14 May 2020 - 05:56 PM, said:

 

Again this isnt a topic on how bad is the british line. I 100% understand it's bad. Please read the premise. What surprises me is the stock gun is so bad it makes no sense even on a horrible tank

 

You will hardly have any meaningful answer here. Devs don't posts on this section, but almost only on RU forum.



Hedgehog1963 #15 Posted 14 May 2020 - 08:09 PM

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View Postnorbar, on 14 May 2020 - 05:51 PM, said:

Why change the topic to what we all know? Will you also mention that water is wet?

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LOL.

 

Water isn't itself wet. What it touches becomes wet.

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View Postsaxsan4, on 14 May 2020 - 05:12 PM, said:


no they re not bad, the ae the best light tanks in the game

 

Given that I just got out of forum jail after a year I shall decline from saying what I'm thinking.


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VsUK #16 Posted 15 May 2020 - 12:24 AM

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What wargaming have done to British tanks is nothing short of insulting & I'm offended by the way they're made them appear in this game. I want to see the Vickers MK1 MBT introduced as a counter to the OP soviet tanks. Seeing as we've seen Soviet tanks that were devised after the Vickers were produce. 

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View PostVsUK, on 14 May 2020 - 11:24 PM, said:

What wargaming have done to British tanks is nothing short of insulting & I'm offended by the way they're made them appear in this game. I want to see the Vickers MK1 MBT introduced as a counter to the OP soviet tanks. Seeing as we've seen Soviet tanks that were devised after the Vickers were produce. 


And the `Cheiftain mk 6



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But british LTs use naval guns - according WG. So you have edit joke DPM, but you have NAVAL GUN ! Honestly.. trying to balance so many tanks on so many tiers must be hard, but they dont even try. That one argument from Questions and Answers, was something like: We like to wait before we buff something, because if we did the buff/nerf badly, we would then have to do it again, .. or the statement was something like this.

 

Welcome to game industry or how you want to call it. Welcome to online games WG, you bunch of lazy vodka drinking ....



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View PostHedgehog1963, on 14 May 2020 - 05:44 PM, said:

British LT line is very bad.  I haven't kept any I went through to get to the Tier X.


... not all of them, due to recent changes  ... search vehicle in garage ... ahh there it is (tier 6) with decent crew ... get rid of dust and rust ... increase ammo load out ... press go battle ... pure enjoyment once the machine gun is setup and aimed in ...

Spoiler

 

 

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View Postnorbar, on 14 May 2020 - 04:47 PM, said:

I don't complain about tank balance. Some tanks are better than others. It happens but as a person who does a fairly similar job to the balancing team but in a different medium (lots of numbers and yeah essentially creating an atteractive balanced product with it) can anyone explain to me why a t7 tank has a 900 dpm gun? A gun which has no autoloader, no high alpha. 

 

I understand stock guns are meant to be bad. 100% agree. Otherwise why upgrade but 900dpm? So a gun which would be considered bad at tier3 somehow lands at t7? I get a t5 gun but this? Seriously who made this decision. I don't even play the setter with the stock gun. I'm just a manager who wants to understand who made that decision, who agreed to it and if those people got fired why no one corrected them? Because this is a degree of incompetence I have never, ever seen in my life and I have worked with Italian TV companies...

Manager and thriving to understanding decisions of other managers ... wow ... you are in business for how long ?

Moreover, thriving to understand decissions of WG.

Good luck or maybe use the search function, since it has been discussed alot in the past.

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