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saxsan4 #1 Posted 15 May 2020 - 08:54 PM

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What is the most unbalanced 3 tiers 

 

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Tier 8 is the worst - full of Op premiums, hardly any tech tree tanks are competitive 

 

Tier 2 - since hp buffs its made tanks like High VIC and t7 care redundant as they don't have enough dmg

 

Tier 10 - Too many arty , ears, I have games where 3 arties 5 lights rest normal tanks, needs a lot of work

 

 

5,7,9 re perfectly balanced though 



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Tier 1 because poor selection of tanks and very few players.

Thats the worst the rest are acceptable but since it had to be 3..

Tier 7 because there is only few good tanks and rest are bad.

Tier 10 because its impossible to grind bonds as you end up fighting tier 8 & 9's in about 24 games out of 30.

But thats kind of a MM issue not a tier one. 


Edited by The_Naa, 15 May 2020 - 11:02 PM.


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View Postsaxsan4, on 15 May 2020 - 08:54 PM, said:

Tier 2 - since hp buffs its made tanks like High VIC and t7 care redundant as they don't have enough dmg

 

So they go from the ability to clip 2 tanks with one clip. Down to 1.2 tanks with one clip. And that's "bad" for tier II if they see a paper target or a weak side they can bully?



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View PostThe_Naa, on 16 May 2020 - 12:01 AM, said:

Tier 1 because poor selection of tanks and very few players.

Thats the worst the rest are acceptable but since it had to be 3..

Tier 7 because there is only few good tanks and rest are bad.

Tier 10 because its impossible to grind bonds as you end up fighting tier 8 & 9's in about 24 games out of 30.

But thats kind of a MM issue not a tier one. 

 

Please let me get the MM you are getting with your tier 10's .....



The_Naa #5 Posted 15 May 2020 - 11:48 PM

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View PostDramya, on 15 May 2020 - 11:41 PM, said:

 

Please let me get the MM you are getting with your tier 10's .....

I would if could. :)



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View PostBalc0ra, on 15 May 2020 - 11:30 PM, said:

 

So they go from the ability to clip 2 tanks with one clip. Down to 1.2 tanks with one clip. And that's "bad" for tier II if they see a paper target or a weak side they can bully?

 

27mm pen is hardly anything these days at T2, plus the reload is long.

It's the M2 Lights and the PzIIs that are much more suitable for clubbing at tier 2.


Edited by Hyina, 16 May 2020 - 12:17 AM.


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View PostHyina, on 16 May 2020 - 12:16 AM, said:

 

27mm pen is hardly anything these days at T2, plus the reload is long.

It's the M2 Lights and the PzIIs that are much more suitable for clubbing at tier 2.

 

Well, thus why I said IF they see a paper target. As it's still nasty burst damage vs a fair few he faces.... unless it's an H35 he can't pen unless he is above and sees the engine deck ofc. As back in the day when we had tier roulette. We had 3 man platoons of this one and focused on the same target. Hysterical, but some games we had 3-4 kills before anyone of us started a reload. It was a tad silly. Still, the point was... that IF they see a group of paper targets, it's better now that they can't kill all of them vs just one. And I don't see that as a bad thing.

 

But... on tier-II I was more of a T2 light guy back in the day vs M2 or Pz II... never got along with the PZ II.


Edited by Balc0ra, 16 May 2020 - 02:57 AM.


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View PostThe_Naa, on 15 May 2020 - 10:01 PM, said:

..Tier 7 because there is only few good tanks and rest are bad.

 

Tier 7 Mediums actually become interesting, different play styles, and the tier isn't without some classics. I think I have more T7 Tech Tree keepers than any other Tier. T29, T20, VK3002, A44, SU152, KV3, IS2, T34-1, Comet. No doubt some I missed.



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View PostGixxer66, on 16 May 2020 - 09:16 AM, said:

 

Tier 7 Mediums actually become interesting, different play styles, and the tier isn't without some classics. I think I have more T7 Tech Tree keepers than any other Tier. T29, T20, VK3002, A44, SU152, KV3, IS2, T34-1, Comet. No doubt some I missed.


This, there are hidden gems at t7. Also the t7 French heavy. 



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Tier 7 could become a very good gem if they will fix the HP also here.

 

Tier 10 is just a pathetic joke and of course is not an arty problem (while could be annoying) and the trainwreck is going down also for tier 9 and 8.

 

For the other tiers there are some here and then broken vehicles but the toxicity is not nearly comparable with the higher tiers.



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Most unbalanced t10.
Second place t8.

Third t7.

My opinion is based on tier 5 and up. Not taking lower tiers (1-4) into consideration.



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I find it varies depending on the time of day, how many folk are playing etc.

 



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Tier 7 is the worst tier ever. Tanks are crap, queue time is 1min+ , always gets matched with tier 8s and 9s.

 



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Generally speaking, in my opinion, almost all tiers are bad.

At tier 2 you have tanks like VIC and M2 Light

At tier 3 you have Pz1C

at tier 4 you have lots of machine guns and derp cannons that can murder you in 2 shots

Same goes for tier 5 plus tanks like T67 and LefH,

tier 6 is also broken thanks to M44s and other SPGs that have really quick reload time and T3485m, KV2, OI and pretty much always against either Tier 7s or 8s.

Tier 7 is also really bad since most of tanks at this tier suck a massive D and as if that is not enough, most of the time they are against T8s and T9s.

At tier 8 you play stock subpar tanks against super OP tier 8 premiums.

Tier 9, in my opinion, is the only balanced tier in the game.

And at tier 10, you have ridiculous tons of armor that require lots of gold shells, and let's not forget about super super OP reward tanks i.e Chieftain, 279e and 907.

 

If I had to pick top 3 worst, it would be:

Tier 5 is the worst.

Tier 10 is the second worst.

Tier 6 is the third worst.

 

 

I really wish all tiers were balanced like tier 9. It is just way way better than all the other tiers. 

 

Forgot to say that apparently WG is also working on ruining tier 9 as well. Since they are giving T9 reward tanks like candy. It's just a matter of time before fewer and fewer people grind these events for OKish tier 9s and then WG will have to give OP tier 9s to incentivize people to take part.

Just like what they have done to campaigns.


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View PostGeneral_Philip, on 16 May 2020 - 10:41 AM, said:

Generally speaking, in my opinion, almost all tiers are bad.

At tier 2 you have tanks like VIC and M2 Light

At tier 3 you have Pz1C

at tier 4 you have lots of machine guns and derp cannons that can murder you in 2 shots

Same goes for tier 5 plus tanks like T67 and LefH,

tier 6 is also broken thanks to M44s and other SPGs that have really quick reload time and T3485m, KV2, OI and pretty much always against either Tier 7s or 8s.

Tier 7 is also really bad since most of tanks at this tier suck a massive D and as if that is not enough, most of the time they are against T8s and T9s.

At tier 8 you play stock subpar tanks against super OP tier 8 premiums.

Tier 9, in my opinion, is the only balanced tier in the game.

And at tier 10, you have ridiculous tons of armor that require lots of gold shells, and let's not forget about super super OP reward tanks i.e Chieftain, 279e and 907.

 

If I had to pick top 3 worst, it would be:

Tier 5 is the worst.

Tier 10 is the second worst.

Tier 6 is the third worst.

 

 

I really wish all tiers were balanced like tier 9. It is just way way better than all the other tiers. 

 

Forgot to say that apparently WG is also working on ruining tier 9 as well. Since they are giving T9 reward tanks like candy. It's just a matter of time before fewer and fewer people grind these events for OKish tier 9s and then WG will have to give OP tier 9s to incentivize people to take part.

Just like what they have done to campaigns.


ahh you see the reason why tier 9 works so well is because it gets +1/-1 mm, something which I am trying to push for all tiers

 

its why tier 3 is now perfectly balanced, and pz1c are rubbish now since hp buff 



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View PostThe_Naa, on 15 May 2020 - 11:01 PM, said:

Tier 1 because poor selection of tanks and very few players.

Thats the worst the rest are acceptable but since it had to be 3..

Tier 7 because there is only few good tanks and rest are bad.

Tier 10 because its impossible to grind bonds as you end up fighting tier 8 & 9's in about 24 games out of 30.

But thats kind of a MM issue not a tier one. 

Tier 7 have the like best balance in game. A few baddies exist (Tiger P) but other than that, all tanks are good enough, and good at different things offering the player a plethora of tanks suited for various styles of play.



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View PostZlatanArKung, on 16 May 2020 - 05:01 PM, said:

Tier 7 have the like best balance in game. A few baddies exist (Tiger P) but other than that, all tanks are good enough, and good at different things offering the player a plethora of tanks suited for various styles of play.

 

On the other hand there's a massive HP disparity on tiers 6, 7, 8. For example a T7 heavy almost has double HP compared to T6 medium and both of those tanks can end up fighting T8 tanks. 



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View PostZlatanArKung, on 16 May 2020 - 05:01 PM, said:

Tier 7 have the like best balance in game. A few baddies exist (Tiger P) but other than that, all tanks are good enough, and good at different things offering the player a plethora of tanks suited for various styles of play.


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Tier 10 definitely worst with the OP reward tanks. Also tier 10 feels unbalanced because tank roles are compromized, everyone has 450+ VR making spotting difficult. Very fast heavies limit the medium role, mediums become snipers...

Perdonally I like tier 6/7 most, not sure if balanced but I guess it fits my level of play most. Also here lights still have a role and 450+ is a real benefit. 



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View Postsaxsan4, on 15 May 2020 - 09:54 PM, said:

Hi all,

 

 

What is the most unbalanced 3 tiers 

 

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Tier 8 is the worst - full of Op premiums, hardly any tech tree tanks are competitive 

 

Tier 2 - since hp buffs its made tanks like High VIC and t7 care redundant as they don't have enough dmg

 

Tier 10 - Too many arty , ears, I have games where 3 arties 5 lights rest normal tanks, needs a lot of work

 

 

5,7,9 re perfectly balanced though 

tier 8 tech tree tanks not competitive? well let me name a few for you, which are way better than premiums and are borderline OP - Heavies:

Caernarvon(i still dont get it, what they were thinking, but okay), VK100.01 P(better than maus tier for tier), has even more broken armor layout than defender. 53tp is just crazy good heavium, with great turret armor + gun depression, only thing holding it back a little is a low premium pen, which is kind of an issue against tier 10s. IS-2-II just plain better version of premium alternative.

LTS:

not much to choose from in light tank category, but LTTB is super good, best tier 8 lt hands down, too bad its not a premium :D 

Mediums:  well this might be the section where premiums are actually way better, but there are still some tech tree meds, which are great - T44(pretty much the same tank as t44-100 and that is considered to be the best tier 8 med, by many players, not myself though - bourrasque and progetto are better), P44 pantera has its upsides over progetto, obj 416 - hard to use, but it has the best dpm and broken camo values., indien panzer even before buffs was a great tier 8 med, which is simply underrated and played wrong. 

 

tds:

Charioteer - has no premium alternatives, quite unique gameplay, very strong tier 8 td, that can adjust its playstyle depending on situation.

t28prot - damn that dpm, after buffs it got, its probably one of the best tier 8 tds, that can be played as a heavy very effectively.

borsig - still very strong bush wanker, best gun at tier 8, no doubts.

su-101 tier 8 bobject

udes 03, broken as f camo combined with tier10 td gun.






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