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Kalonianhydra #1 Posted 16 May 2020 - 01:34 PM

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This tank has to be one of the most useless tanks in the game for it's tier and class.

 

The gun is so bad it can't hit a barn from the inside.

 

And with the introduction of the wheeled tanks it's even worse. Shooting on the move doesn't work while a wheeled tank will hit you 75% of the times.

Is this tank going to get any love in the future?



Galan7891 #2 Posted 16 May 2020 - 01:38 PM

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View PostKalonianhydra, on 16 May 2020 - 01:34 PM, said:

This tank has to be one of the most useless tanks in the game for it's tier and class.

 

The gun is so bad it can't hit a barn from the inside.

 

And with the introduction of the wheeled tanks it's even worse. Shooting on the move doesn't work while a wheeled tank will hit you 75% of the times.

Is this tank going to get any love in the future?


HWK 12 has been useless long before WVs showed up.HWK 30  and M41 saw to that...WVs simply sealed the deal...


Edited by Galan7891, 16 May 2020 - 01:38 PM.


Hyina #3 Posted 16 May 2020 - 02:15 PM

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AMX65t feels insulted.

Erwin_Von_Braun #4 Posted 16 May 2020 - 02:39 PM

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View PostKalonianhydra, on 16 May 2020 - 12:34 PM, said:

This tank has to be one of the most useless tanks in the game for it's tier and class.

 

The gun is so bad it can't hit a barn from the inside.

 

And with the introduction of the wheeled tanks it's even worse. Shooting on the move doesn't work while a wheeled tank will hit you 75% of the times.

Is this tank going to get any love in the future?


I'll see your HWK 12 and raise you a Setter.



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T-34-2 is overlooked as always.

Galan7891 #6 Posted 16 May 2020 - 02:49 PM

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View PostErwin_Von_Braun, on 16 May 2020 - 02:39 PM, said:


I'll see your HWK 12 and raise you a Setter.


Does the Setter have 600 or so shell velocity?!



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View PostGalan7891, on 16 May 2020 - 01:49 PM, said:


Does the Setter have 600 or so shell velocity?!


I have no idea tbh - what I do know is that it turns like a bus, gets stopped in it's tracks by the slightest stick, or blade of grass.:D



crnakoza #8 Posted 16 May 2020 - 03:02 PM

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In my opinion they should have left the autoloader on SP1C and uptiered it to tier 8, and think of some tier 7 replacement.

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View Postcrnakoza, on 16 May 2020 - 02:02 PM, said:

In my opinion they should have left the autoloader on SP1C and uptiered it to tier 8, and think of some tier 7 replacement.


Yes.

Return the glorious VK 28.01 with it's derp at tier VII :izmena:



Balc0ra #10 Posted 16 May 2020 - 03:09 PM

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View PostGalan7891, on 16 May 2020 - 02:49 PM, said:


Does the Setter have 600 or so shell velocity?!

 

I'll rather be in the Setter then the HWK 12. But then again I would rather be in the HWK 12 then the SPC1. As that one is worse, and just a slower passive scout.

 

View PostGalan7891, on 16 May 2020 - 02:49 PM, said:


Does the Setter have 600 or so shell velocity?!

 

I see your 600, and raise you the Crusaders 182


Edited by Balc0ra, 16 May 2020 - 03:15 PM.


Solstad1069 #11 Posted 16 May 2020 - 03:18 PM

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The problem with the HWK 12 isnt the tank itself. Its the german light tank tech tree that offers nothing after the tier 5 Leopard. Thats a problem.
Lucky for me i could jump from HWK over to the german medium line.

One thing is people having to grind through bad tanks, but when the next and the next is also bad. Then whats the point of the tank line at all?

Edited by Solstad1069, 16 May 2020 - 03:21 PM.


Hyina #12 Posted 16 May 2020 - 03:31 PM

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View PostBalc0ra, on 16 May 2020 - 03:09 PM, said:

 

I'll rather be in the Setter then the HWK 12. But then again I would rather be in the HWK 12 then the SPC1. As that one is worse, and just a slower passive scout.

 

Back when the latter had the autoloader, it was glorious. Ah, good ol days.



Corrupted_Pling #13 Posted 16 May 2020 - 03:32 PM

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View PostHyina, on 16 May 2020 - 01:15 PM, said:

AMX65t feels insulted.


TVP VTU feels enraged



geoff99 #14 Posted 16 May 2020 - 03:35 PM

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View PostSolstad1069, on 16 May 2020 - 02:18 PM, said:

German lights are rubbish

Indeed.

 

And there are obvious and easy buffs including autoloader for spic, faster shells for hwk12, more front gun depression for ru251. The tanks would be more competitive but still below par, so shouldn't upset anyone. 

 

Obvs Run Pzw is so bad it really needs considerable rethinking. I'd like it to be smaller with more ammo, better gun handling, higher dpm.



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View Postgeoff99, on 16 May 2020 - 03:35 PM, said:

Indeed.

 

And there are obvious and easy buffs including autoloader for spic, faster shells for hwk12, more front gun depression for ru251. The tanks would be more competitive but still below par, so shouldn't upset anyone. 

 

Obvs Run Pzw is so bad it really needs considerable rethinking. I'd like it to be smaller with more ammo, better gun handling, higher dpm.


 

I would understand HWK 12 being bad if RU251 was a very nice tier 9 tank, but its sadly not. Like people complaining about AMX 65t being bad, but its followed by a great tier 9 tank.



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Only thing that sucks about it is shell velocity, other than that its very good lt, grind through it was a breeze.

rimmer_the #17 Posted 16 May 2020 - 03:49 PM

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View PostCorrupted_Pling, on 16 May 2020 - 03:32 PM, said:


TVP VTU feels enraged

Churchill GC is going berserk. 


Edited by rimmer_the, 16 May 2020 - 03:50 PM.


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Panzer IIIK is mildly offended

NUKLEAR_SLUG #19 Posted 16 May 2020 - 05:10 PM

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View PostHyina, on 16 May 2020 - 02:15 PM, said:

AMX65t feels insulted.


AMX65t deserves to be insulted.



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Id say the T92 is worst tier 8 light. next to M41

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