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Wintermute_1 #1 Posted 16 May 2020 - 10:13 PM

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Seems to me bounty equipment is just a pointless credit sink. I have 2 pieces of bounty equipment now, GLD and Vents, and haven't bothered upgrading either, it just doesn't seem to be worth the 3 million credits. 

Ok, there will be a category of players who have zillions of credits and another category of players who feel negligible improvements in performance are important to them - who will want this stuff. I'm neither of those, I generally play without premium, have about 30M credits at any one time and can probably average 20k per game if I play certain tanks. At 20k per game, 3 million credits is 150 games of grinding out credits (that's weeks of play). And for what? if I put the upgraded bounty vents on my charioteer for example, I'd get 1/10th of a second quicker reload, 2/100ths of a second quicker aim time, .04 better S/P, 5m more view range etc.. bit of traverse etc ...   

These are performance improvements that are undetectable during gameplay, you'd probably have to play hundreds if not thousands of games to see any effect of using this equipment in your results.  

Yes I know I don't have to upgrade this equipment, yes I know I don't have to complete whatever missions etc are required to get it, the point I'm making is that I think there are quite a few players grinding this bounty equipment out (as I was) and upgrading it thinking it was more of a worthwhile exercise than it actually is.

 

It just feels like a dumb way to spend 3m credits and I can't see myself attempting to complete too many more missions where bounty equipment is the reward.  

 

I'm sure there are differing opinions...



shikaka9 #2 Posted 16 May 2020 - 10:19 PM

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in Soviet Rasha you pay for the gift :trollface:

mjs_89 #3 Posted 16 May 2020 - 10:30 PM

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Imo the trick is to put them on tanks you either enjoy playing or play a lot. I put the GLD on the M53/55 because I play it a lot for missions and during smoke breaks, the Rammer on the Leo PTA because it's my favourite tank to play atm and the Vents on the EBR 75 because I use it in FL a bunch. Haven't upgraded the Vents as of now, but since credits are usually not an issue for me I feel it's somewhat worth to upgrade because at some point I'll have a game where those really small buffs to aim time, reload and VR will pay off. Just my opinion though. At the end of the day it's still 3 free pieces of equipment worth 1.6M - 1.025M credits, wich also is a pretty decent reward to get.

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TungstenHitman #4 Posted 16 May 2020 - 10:37 PM

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Of course it's not worth it but neither is the invested time grinding it if you're referring to the bounty vent.

 

Bounty equipment are more aimed at players with zillions of disposable credits. At this stage, these players have all the tank they want and most everything else yet still run premium accounts and have ginormous stacks of credits. For players like this, dropping 3 million is just a drop in the ocean and they really don't care about value since it really doesn't matter when you have that much credits.

 

Like improved equipment, alone there is not a whole lot of gain, depending on the equipment in question of course. But, when you add 3 of these pieces together on the one tank, they accumulate into little boost that's certainly something any player would want on their tank once you get to the sharp end of things and in the hands of a good experienced player, can make all the difference in a really tight battle where fractions of a second are the difference between getting your gun on a tank on time before it kills you or reloading .1 of a second before the enemy tank does or spotting that tank a little sooner while being spotted a little later or perhaps not being spotted at all... ya I mean when you have it all, why not right? Gotta spend credits on something, they can't be used in any other game lol. 



antwerp_fighter #5 Posted 16 May 2020 - 10:38 PM

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no really, I mounted my GLD on FV4005 and planning to mount vent on AMX 13 105 or TVP 50/51...

after all, mounting/demounting these equipments does not require any bonds... 



General_Jack_D_Ripper #6 Posted 16 May 2020 - 10:39 PM

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So why put on equipment in the first place? The Δ-Difference is only 4 times as big.

And you have to use gold to demount or lose half the price.

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View Postmjs_89, on 16 May 2020 - 10:30 PM, said:

M53/55 because I play it a lot [...] during smoke breaks

 

Sad truth about arty.



Hyina #7 Posted 16 May 2020 - 10:43 PM

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Well look at it this way:

 

3m credits + 10 gold for removing it or

 

5000 bonds and 200 for removing it.

 

No brainer really.



Metalsniper #8 Posted 16 May 2020 - 10:47 PM

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No point in improving anything, If RNG says no it says NO. Does not matter how good the crew, or equipment is. RNG NO = NO. RNG YESHHHH = YEESSHHH. Okay?

arthurwellsley #9 Posted 16 May 2020 - 10:58 PM

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View PostWintermute_1, on 16 May 2020 - 09:13 PM, said:

Seems to me bounty equipment is just a pointless credit sink. I have 2 pieces of bounty equipment now, GLD and Vents, and haven't bothered upgrading either, it just doesn't seem to be worth the 3 million credits. 

Ok, there will be a category of players who have zillions of credits and another category of players who feel negligible improvements in performance are important to them - who will want this stuff. I'm neither of those, I generally play without premium, have about 30M credits at any one time and can probably average 20k per game if I play certain tanks. At 20k per game, 3 million credits is 150 games of grinding out credits (that's weeks of play). And for what? if I put the upgraded bounty vents on my charioteer for example, I'd get 1/10th of a second quicker reload, 2/100ths of a second quicker aim time, .04 better S/P, 5m more view range etc.. bit of traverse etc ...   

These are performance improvements that are undetectable during gameplay, you'd probably have to play hundreds if not thousands of games to see any effect of using this equipment in your results.  

Yes I know I don't have to upgrade this equipment, yes I know I don't have to complete whatever missions etc are required to get it, the point I'm making is that I think there are quite a few players grinding this bounty equipment out (as I was) and upgrading it thinking it was more of a worthwhile exercise than it actually is.

 

It just feels like a dumb way to spend 3m credits and I can't see myself attempting to complete too many more missions where bounty equipment is the reward.  

 

I'm sure there are differing opinions...

 

a. Buy Improved vents for 4,000 bonds. To move it to another tank costs 200 bonds each time.

b. Obtain Bounty vents merely by regular play. Pay some silver you get anyway while playing to improve it. YOU CAN MOVE IT FROM TANK TO TANK FOR ONLY 10g!!!!!!!

 

The fact that you can move Bounty equipment so cheaply is the reason that they are probably worth 6 million silver a piece let alone a miserly 3million.



Hedgehog1963 #10 Posted 16 May 2020 - 11:00 PM

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Then don't pay.  Simple.

(As it is they are well worth the credits because you get the equivalent of bond equipment that can be demounted for 10 gold.)

Long_Range_Sniper #11 Posted 16 May 2020 - 11:03 PM

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I make 3M credits in a day playing FL.

I can't make 4/5000 bonds in a day.

 

Simple.



Wintermute_1 #12 Posted 17 May 2020 - 12:16 AM

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View PostTungstenHitman, on 16 May 2020 - 10:37 PM, said:

Of course it's not worth it but neither is the invested time grinding it if you're referring to the bounty vent.

 

Bounty equipment are more aimed at players with zillions of disposable credits. At this stage, these players have all the tank they want and most everything else yet still run premium accounts and have ginormous stacks of credits. For players like this, dropping 3 million is just a drop in the ocean and they really don't care about value since it really doesn't matter when you have that much credits.

 

Like improved equipment, alone there is not a whole lot of gain, depending on the equipment in question of course. But, when you add 3 of these pieces together on the one tank, they accumulate into little boost that's certainly something any player would want on their tank once you get to the sharp end of things and in the hands of a good experienced player, can make all the difference in a really tight battle where fractions of a second are the difference between getting your gun on a tank on time before it kills you or reloading .1 of a second before the enemy tank does or spotting that tank a little sooner while being spotted a little later or perhaps not being spotted at all... ya I mean when you have it all, why not right? Gotta spend credits on something, they can't be used in any other game lol. 

Yeah, there might be something worthwhile in the cumulative benefit on multiple pieces of improved equipment, hadn't really thought about it. 

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View PostGeneral_Jack_D_Ripper, on 16 May 2020 - 10:39 PM, said:

So why put on equipment in the first place? 

Because they give away regular equipment like confetti and alot of its pretty cheap to buy if you have to.

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View PostHyina, on 16 May 2020 - 10:43 PM, said:

Well look at it this way:

 

3m credits + 10 gold for removing it or

 

5000 bonds and 200 for removing it.

 

No brainer really.

Neither? Stopped buying improved equipment for bonds after the first couple of pieces. It feels a better use of bonds to have them on standby just in case they ever decide to put something worthwhile in the tank bond shop.


Edited by Wintermute_1, 17 May 2020 - 12:23 AM.


Homer_J #13 Posted 17 May 2020 - 12:22 AM

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View PostGeneral_Jack_D_Ripper, on 16 May 2020 - 10:39 PM, said:

So why put on equipment in the first place? The Δ-Difference is only 4 times as big.

And you have to use gold to demount or lose half the price.

If you always buy equipment at half price and sell it with the tank when it's full price then it costs nothing.

 

View PostHyina, on 16 May 2020 - 10:43 PM, said:

Well look at it this way:

 

3m credits + 10 gold for removing it or

 

5000 bonds and 200 for removing it.

 

No brainer really.

Or just use one of the gajillion directives I still have cluttering up my depot.

 

I never bothered with the bonds equipment and the bounty equipment is lying around unused.



Wintermute_1 #14 Posted 17 May 2020 - 12:32 AM

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Maybe its the economic choices you have to make to play without premium time. I can do without food, I can do without premium consumables, do I really need an extra 2.5% of equipment performance for 3m ... Meehhhh

Immensive #15 Posted 17 May 2020 - 12:48 AM

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View PostWintermute_1, on 17 May 2020 - 12:32 AM, said:

Maybe its the economic choices you have to make to play without premium time. I can do without food, I can do without premium consumables, do I really need an extra 2.5% of equipment performance for 3m ... Meehhhh


It can make a difference to have 8,3 or 8,4s reload in a shootout situation. In regards to 3m credits everyone has to answer that to himself.



Long_Range_Sniper #16 Posted 17 May 2020 - 08:21 AM

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I forgot to mention the main reason for getting bounty equipment.

 



RaxipIx #17 Posted 17 May 2020 - 08:40 AM

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After i have seen how much credits and gold is floating on the server  when black market happened.

 

I think 3 mil credits is next to nothing for players who have many battles. Even after the consumable  discount where i spent 40 mil credits, still sitting on 40+ with couple of tanks i bought, and  bounty equipment payed for.



TheJungleBeast #18 Posted 17 May 2020 - 09:05 AM

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Dunno about you but I find it easier to make 3 million credits than  collect 5000 bonds ?

Erwin_Von_Braun #19 Posted 17 May 2020 - 09:41 AM

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I must admit that REALLY hacked me off when I earned my bounty equipment through battle pass.

Turns out, I didn't actually win anything for my efforts, other than the opportunity to spend 6000000 silver.

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fwhaatpiraat #20 Posted 17 May 2020 - 10:18 AM

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I would like to change the hypothesis: playing Road to Berlin for the bounty equipment is not worth it.




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