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Char Futur 4: the Musketeer of the Expedition


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Zapfhan #21 Posted 23 May 2020 - 10:53 AM

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View PostSmegger213, on 23 May 2020 - 09:49 AM, said:

40 second reload lol

Wargaming, are you taking the p__s.

 

I will pass.

 

View PostProfesor_Baltazar, on 23 May 2020 - 09:50 AM, said:

First option is correct, but seccond one is wrong. You need to take bonds for tank, not this craptanks.

 

 

The Char Futur is a quite nice tank to play. The only thing needed is a good understanding of the tank itself, the map, and knowledge of you enemies. 



O_o_Babbuino #22 Posted 23 May 2020 - 11:01 AM

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View Postrimmer_the, on 23 May 2020 - 09:41 AM, said:

Full ramming speed!

08:44 Added after 2 minute

Hrm, for my 10th anniversary of my company I would do something more special than WG does now...

With this arty will laugh and you will perish even with full HP :D full ramming speed :D heh



OSBTrebek #23 Posted 23 May 2020 - 11:06 AM

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View PostZapfhan, on 23 May 2020 - 10:53 AM, said:

 

 

 

The Char Futur is a quite nice tank to play. The only thing needed is a good understanding of the tank itself, the map, and knowledge of you enemies. 

The only thing needed is a good understanding of the tank itself, the map, and knowledge of your enemies.... Dude, if you have those three things you are already a super dangerous player regardless of what tank you are in. It could be a tier zero shopping cart and such a player will find a way to dunk on +2s.



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View PostZapfhan, on 23 May 2020 - 10:53 AM, said:

 

 

 

The Char Futur is a quite nice tank to play. The only thing needed is a good understanding of the tank itself, the map, and knowledge of you enemies. 

you can enter any-tank's name in this general sentence....

 

One player - same knowledge of everything - same for all the tanks/maps/enemies... :D

 

But yes, I agree, you are not allowed to say anything bad about anything in here ;)

 

 



Rock_n_Rollie #25 Posted 23 May 2020 - 11:23 AM

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and its best feature is the bolted on camping table on the back...

which allows you to host wine & cheese events or have croissants & strong coffee breakfast back at base camp

(or after you've surrendered)  :P:hiding:

 



O_o_Babbuino #26 Posted 23 May 2020 - 11:24 AM

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Char's combination:

 

paper tank (ramming not adviced) - good advice - dodge enemy shots

paper armor will get easily overmatched by bigger caliber guns

long interclip reload - can't clip enemies...cos the clip you even without a clip

long complete reload....dodge those two FV4005 shots

gun depression....not good at all considering paper armor...sloped armor wont work

aim time - actually good

dispersion on the move.....???

mobility?

camo?

 

May be there will be very few situations where you will excel....like with all even the most crappiest tanks...

 

Overall it is a French tank: snipe - retreat - repeat....could work

 

 



Zapfhan #27 Posted 23 May 2020 - 11:25 AM

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View PostOSBTrebek, on 23 May 2020 - 10:06 AM, said:

The only thing needed is a good understanding of the tank itself, the map, and knowledge of your enemies.... Dude, if you have those three things you are already a super dangerous player regardless of what tank you are in. It could be a tier zero shopping cart and such a player will find a way to dunk on +2s.

 

My point was that on this tank it is more needed than on other tanks. Autoloaders in general need a better understanding of what's going on than other tanks due to their long reload time. 

 

View PostO_o_Babbuino, on 23 May 2020 - 10:11 AM, said:

But yes, I agree, you are not allowed to say anything bad about anything in here ;)

 

 

 

And thats why there are plenty of critical comments out there :sceptic:  



ciscoasa #28 Posted 23 May 2020 - 11:36 AM

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i saw game play video, very difficult to play. 40 sec reload time is to much. useless tier9 now and useless in future

when we will have 15 tier as top level, and 10 tier as premium :trollface:


Edited by ciscoasa, 23 May 2020 - 11:43 AM.


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View PostZapfhan, on 23 May 2020 - 09:53 AM, said:

 

 

 

The Char Futur is a quite nice tank to play. The only thing needed is a good understanding of the tank itself, the map, and knowledge of you enemies. 

Before you know map, you need to know your tank. It is sniper with awfull viewrange and even worse intra reload, as I stated. I can talk with arguments and numbers, as I don't care about personal feeling, like someone says that Tiger II is balanced, etc. I'm orange player, but that doesn't mean that I can't see difference between this and Standard B. Also I've tried many (auto) reloaders, I must say that this looks by far worst of it.


Edited by Profesor_Baltazar, 23 May 2020 - 11:43 AM.


shroomerlin #30 Posted 23 May 2020 - 11:45 AM

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No thx, I'll take the bonds.

Profesor_Baltazar #31 Posted 23 May 2020 - 11:47 AM

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View PostAnymn, on 23 May 2020 - 09:52 AM, said:

4 seconds intra-clip doesn't match well with 4 rounds AND 40 seconds reload. It's just too slow, and after those 4 shells you're out of business again. In contrast, many tanks shoot with 6-7 seconds reload, but without an awful 40 seconds clip reload.

It would be a whole different story if this would be an autoREloader, with e.g. 10 seconds loading for each shell. Them 4 seconds would be balanced.

Exactly, from first shoot to next clip it will take you 52 secconds!!! Standard B has 10m more view range, 1 seccond less reload (altho it does less dmg). All in all not worth it.



OSBTrebek #32 Posted 23 May 2020 - 11:57 AM

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I find the news article apt in calling it a musketeer as this thing takes ages to reload.

Misago #33 Posted 23 May 2020 - 11:58 AM

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That 40 second reload does seem very excessive considering the rest of the stats. It might work with an autoreloader, but with a regular autoloader, this is essentially a tank destroyer.

 

Quite a hard decision, since I love the looks of the tank and my fast mediums much more than heavies like AE Phase 1. Was gonna get this first and AE later, but now I am not so sure...



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soon :child:

Ciki_el_Tigre #35 Posted 23 May 2020 - 12:18 PM

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Pass   :popcorn:



Paul_Kouadio #36 Posted 23 May 2020 - 12:29 PM

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I think this tank is different, and I'll probably get it. My main concern is the terrible dispersion values; tanks.gg quotes them as 0.20, 0.20, 0.17. I really think WG could adjust that to 0.15, 0.15, 0.13, in line with the Bat-Chat AP, or maybe even bring the values down to the same as the Skoda T 50 (0.17, 0.17, 0.10). Also, the DPM is a tad low. If WG buffs clip reload from ~40s to ~33s, we get 2080 DPM, which is much nicer. Otherwise, nice-looking tank!

Weak_man #37 Posted 23 May 2020 - 01:24 PM

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12 x 250 = 3000 bonds, better for me.

As article said BC medium line is for experienced players. New players will do bad in it.



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i realy like autoloaders, but this one, is not an autoloader pass for me, on ae phase 1 i have 2 battles, so, i think bonds are better!

and if bonds are better then a reward tank it tells a lot about what tanks u develope.



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View PostInginerChimist, on 23 May 2020 - 12:55 PM, said:

i realy like autoloaders, but this one, is not an autoloader pass for me, on ae phase 1 i have 2 battles, so, i think bonds are better!

and if bonds are better then a reward tank it tells a lot about what tanks u develope.

Wtf AE Phase 1 is great tank.



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View PostProfesor_Baltazar, on 23 May 2020 - 02:17 PM, said:

Wtf AE Phase 1 is great tank.


maybe, but still i have 2 battles.






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