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hjorte #1 Posted 24 May 2020 - 12:54 AM

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Please explain to me why the EBR 105 earns more experience (761 xp) than the T-100 LT (753 xp) in this same battle?

 

Replay 

 

EBR 105: 761 experience:

 

T-100 LT: 753 experience:

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qpranger #2 Posted 24 May 2020 - 12:56 AM

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Because EBRs are so weak and unpopular in the current meta,

they need moar experience to make them attractive.


Edited by qpranger, 24 May 2020 - 12:57 AM.


General_Jack_D_Ripper #3 Posted 24 May 2020 - 01:02 AM

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Same game? :amazed:

VsUK #4 Posted 24 May 2020 - 01:03 AM

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Its the damage done at greater distances I believe & WG's push to make EBR's attractive for the average tomato that find having to use the keyboard & mouse at the same time a little challenging. 

LethalWalou #5 Posted 24 May 2020 - 01:03 AM

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It's hard to say without the replay as we can't see what actually happened. Those numbers never tell the whole story. Only things we can see from that which make a difference are spotted tanks and the fact that the EBR 105 survived, which gives a flat bonus to exp. And anyways the difference is only 8 exp...

 

So how to get an answer to your question? Post the replay.



Balc0ra #6 Posted 24 May 2020 - 01:16 AM

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Well, you're only showing us half the picture. As was this a pure tier X game? As if the LT did more damage vs lower tiers vs the EBR. And lights get bonus XP from module damage to HTs. If the EBR did hit and runs with HE on the HT lane. He could have gotten extra on that alone.

hjorte #7 Posted 24 May 2020 - 09:33 AM

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View PostLethalWalou, on 24 May 2020 - 01:03 AM, said:

Only things we can see from that which make a difference are spotted tanks and the fact that the EBR 105 survived, which gives a flat bonus to exp.

 

I thought the bulk of earning XP in a light tank came from:

 

  1. Total damage
  2. Damage caused with your assistance
  3. Enemy vehicles spotted (not sure about this one)

 

I did more in all of those categories compared to the EBR.

And I was also certain that the EBR's would have higher expectation values, thus harder to earn XP, due to being so overpowered. 


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because EBR has bigger number in its name than T :P

hjorte #9 Posted 24 May 2020 - 09:48 AM

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View PostGeneral_Jack_D_Ripper, on 24 May 2020 - 01:02 AM, said:

Same game? :amazed:

Yes.

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I have update the first post with the replay.

azakow #10 Posted 24 May 2020 - 10:03 AM

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All this effort for a XP diffenrence of 8 XP points.

There was a man in Minsk back then, who said this game is not for accountants during a discussion about post battle result screens.

 

Spoiler

 


Edited by azakow, 24 May 2020 - 10:06 AM.


LethalWalou #11 Posted 24 May 2020 - 10:03 AM

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View Posthjorte, on 24 May 2020 - 08:33 AM, said:

 

I thought the bulk of earning XP in a light tank came from:

 

  1. Total damage
  2. Damage caused with your assistance
  3. Enemy vehicles spotted (not sure about this one)

 

I did more in all of those categories compared to the EBR.

And I was also certain that the EBR's would have higher expectation values, thus harder to earn XP, due to being so overpowered. 

 

The important part is that the two things I described are the only ones we can know for certainty they went as normally and provided normal amount of exp. Your damage dealt and assisted are just vague numbers with no meaning until we can see how they were done. Your damage can easily have been to someone elses spotting or your assist was so that someone at the same time had tracked the target, getting half of your exp for the assistance damage.

 

I see you posted the replay, I personally can't watch it now but someone else can and maybe is able to explain things based on how things actually went.



Stig_Stigma #12 Posted 24 May 2020 - 10:31 AM

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View Posthjorte, on 24 May 2020 - 12:54 AM, said:

Please explain to me why the EBR 105 earns more experience (761 xp) than the T-100 LT (753 xp) in this same battle?

 

Replay 

 

EBR 105: 761 experience:

 

T-100 LT: 753 experience:

 

That is totally negligable amount of exp. 

 

Plus, that depends on the type of enemy tanks the player shoots. He probably shot onyl tier 10 tanks, while you shot a tier 8 or 9 tank. That has a hughe impact of exp. 

 

Plus, He most certainly has a bonus to exp because he probably spotted the enemies first. 



hjorte #13 Posted 24 May 2020 - 11:41 AM

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View PostStig_Stigma, on 24 May 2020 - 10:31 AM, said:

 

He probably shot onyl tier 10 tanks, while you shot a tier 8 or 9 tank. That has a hughe impact of exp.  

 

I did all of my damage to tier X tanks.

Also, I first-spotted several enemies.

You probably should have watched the replay ;)

 

Lets have some percentages. This is what I did more than the EBR 105:

42 % more damage
47 % more damage assist
200 % more vehicles spotted

 



Stig_Stigma #14 Posted 24 May 2020 - 11:45 AM

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View Posthjorte, on 24 May 2020 - 11:41 AM, said:

 

I did all of my damage to tier X tanks.

Also, I first-spotted several enemies.

You probably should have watched the replay ;)

 

Lets have some percentages. This is what I did more than the EBR 105:

42 % more damage
47 % more damage assist
200 % more vehicles spotted

 

 

Bla Bla Bla. Why should I wate my time watching a mediocre replay? 



Kasseibijter #15 Posted 24 May 2020 - 11:46 AM

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The EBR survived. 

hjorte #16 Posted 24 May 2020 - 11:47 AM

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View PostStig_Stigma, on 24 May 2020 - 11:45 AM, said:

 

Bla Bla Bla. Why should I wate my time watching a mediocre replay? 

 

It's not about my mediocre performance. It's about finding out why the difference in xp-scoring.



Condr #17 Posted 24 May 2020 - 11:48 AM

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View PostStig_Stigma, on 24 May 2020 - 11:45 AM, said:

 

Bla Bla Bla. Why should I wate my time watching a mediocre replay? 

 

Why you reply without knowing all the details? Mediocre internet user.

 

For topic itself: probably same reason why EBR had improved concealment on release. Given better stats so more people aim to get in. As we know form QA sessions with game devs of this small indie company - there are clearly no problems with wheeled vehicles.



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View PostKasseibijter, on 24 May 2020 - 01:46 PM, said:

The EBR survived. 

 

Now that is strange, considering that it has worse armor and its speed is more hindered by obstacles and bad terrain due to having wheels instead of tracks.



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Survival Xp is about the same as one kill.

hjorte #20 Posted 24 May 2020 - 11:53 AM

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View PostMeetriX, on 24 May 2020 - 11:51 AM, said:

Survival Xp is about the same as one kill.

 

Wow, I didn't know that. That's huge.






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