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pak_az #1 Posted 25 May 2020 - 10:10 PM

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I hope WOT will use common sense and will stop all this rubbish. Just leave both tanks as they are. 
I guess people will start saying obj430U is OP and all sort of rubbish. 
as I’m an bellow the average player and hate to play against obj430U but I don’t want It to get nerf. 
it’s my problem I don’t have the skill to kill it. 
if you can’t play don’t complain just learn to fight 

moenie #2 Posted 25 May 2020 - 10:38 PM

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Here is the gist of it:

1.) Object 430U - statistically too good, performs many roles of other classes without the disadvantages of such.

2.) Progetto 65 - statistically good, started overperforming once players knew how to play them leading to unbalanced games.

 

WG have been monitoring this for some time and it looks like they have got to a point where there was enough evidence to suggest that changes were needed.


Edited by moenie, 25 May 2020 - 10:43 PM.


resittemiz #3 Posted 25 May 2020 - 11:10 PM

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I heard that progetto m40 mod 65 tank will be nerf, I don't want this to happen, there are so many tanks up to progetto 65 that it is better to eat nerf, if you remove those wheeled tanks or bring nerf, this is my own opinion, thanks


snowy76 #4 Posted 25 May 2020 - 11:14 PM

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You cant nerf a prem tank without offering a refund..

 

Progetto 65 and the obj430U are fine, just leave them alone.

Stop the constant tinkering. 

If anything needs nerfed to death it those french wheeled monsters



moenie #5 Posted 25 May 2020 - 11:20 PM

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View Postsnowy76, on 25 May 2020 - 10:14 PM, said:

You cant nerf a prem tank without offering a refund..

 

Progetto 65 and the obj430U are fine, just leave them alone.

Stop the constant tinkering. 

If anything needs nerfed to death it those french wheeled monsters

 

Neither of these tanks are premium, they are both able to be researched through the tech tree.

Wheeled vehicles are being monitored, Wargaming are trying different solutions but this will take time.

Feel free to take a look at the supertest section for any updates.


Edited by moenie, 25 May 2020 - 11:26 PM.


snowy76 #6 Posted 25 May 2020 - 11:29 PM

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View Postmoenie, on 25 May 2020 - 11:20 PM, said:

 

Neither of these tanks are premium, they are both able to be researched through the tech tree.

Wheeled vehicles are being monitored, Wargaming are trying different solutions but this will take time [head to the supertest section for any updates].

 

Yes, i know.
Was reading another thread in another window about nerfing the Progetto M35 and got cross tracked.

I know neither of these tanks are premium.

I have them both



Tealo #7 Posted 26 May 2020 - 01:25 AM

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View Postsnowy76, on 25 May 2020 - 10:14 PM, said:

You cant nerf a prem tank without offering a refund..

 

Progetto 65 and the obj430U are fine, just leave them alone.

Stop the constant tinkering. 

If anything needs nerfed to death it those french wheeled monsters

 

Yes they can it's called a exchange like when WG nerfed the HE shell (splash radius etc.) on the Chinese T34-3 in exchange for increasing the pen on the standard shell and on the Type 64 nerfing it's credit making potential by reducing its MM so it doesn't see tier 9 anymore, many socalled players considered this to be a buff?? :confused: It's a scout tank with prem bonus in credit making you want to be bottom tier in a tier 9 game on Campinovka sitting in bush racking up credits spotting all those +3 tier9's !! :facepalm:

 

  Good that WG are nerfing a few tier 10s as the whole of tier 10 needs a giant Nerf Bat and tier 9 need a little as well as on the other hand everyone complains about Power Creep.

Make up your mind would 'You' rather WG make a more balanced game and reduce the Power Creep especially between tiers or is it just so long as it doesn't effect my favorite tank ie ME~!

The T34-3 and type 64 were my favorite Tanks which got nerfed and yes they are premium tanks :harp::arta:

 All i got was a 'Trade In' discount/Russian Refund :unsure: on buying another Prem Tank ie A Exchange:ohmy: 

  I didn't even get the T-shirt unlike some :hiding:


Edited by Tealo, 26 May 2020 - 01:26 AM.


Balc0ra #8 Posted 26 May 2020 - 01:31 AM

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View Postpak_az, on 25 May 2020 - 10:10 PM, said:


it’s my problem I don’t have the skill to kill it. 
if you can’t play don’t complain just learn to fight 

 

There is a difference between skill, and lacking pen. As most if they don't hit the exact one pixel, won't pen it hull down. Be it tier X or 8. It's why I suspect the nerf won't do much. As you still have to hit that exact pixel lane on the cupola before it's 400+ effective anyway. As going from 500 to 400 won't do much.



demon_tank #9 Posted 26 May 2020 - 12:32 PM

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View Postmoenie, on 25 May 2020 - 09:38 PM, said:

Here is the gist of it:

1.) Object 430U - statistically too good, performs many roles of other classes without the disadvantages of such.

2.) Progetto 65 - statistically good, started overperforming once players knew how to play them leading to unbalanced games.

 

WG have been monitoring this for some time and it looks like they have got to a point where there was enough evidence to suggest that changes were needed.

Indeed. Anyone with brain can see it.

 

"Stalinium 430OP Apocalypse tank" and the "Better than autoloaders with no drawbacks 65".

 

Stop fooling yourselves to save your favourite tanks.



Nishi_Kinuyo #10 Posted 26 May 2020 - 01:09 PM

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"Don't have the skill to kill it."

Yes, very nice.

 

Now tell me again, how a 315mm effective cupola is a "weakspot".

Now tell me again where I can pen that with 290mm average goldpen tier 10 heavy?

While it can race around at 50km/h or something and just snapshot everything.



Fantacuzino #11 Posted 26 May 2020 - 01:57 PM

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If I were to nerf obj 430U I would nerf the DpM.

Have the tank keep it's insane armour but less damage capability.






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