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DiMtopia #1 Posted 27 May 2020 - 10:21 AM

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is there any site where i can find stats on the average distribution of tank types in battles?

i feel like almost every battle there are at least 3 lights and quite often 4 or 5.

battles where there's just 1 or 2 are almost non-existant, however, from time to time i do get battles with zero lights. weird.

i'm talking about tier 8-10 battles.

 

obviously this is just my perception which might very well be flawed so i'd really appreciate to see some clear numbers.

because if there really is an increase in the number of battles with 3+ scouts, as i'm suspecting after the wheelies got introduced, then i'm thinking LT missions should be reworked, right? i mean it's far more likely to get 8k spotting if you're the only scout than it is when there are 5 of you.



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Could the fact that the USSR LT line is currently Top of the Tree be a factor in your perception?

imposter #3 Posted 27 May 2020 - 11:11 AM

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I think once upon a time there were some "heat maps" created from replays. They showed the areas per class of tank. The more tanks in that area per time of the battle the hotter to area.

 

It was pretty effective at showing camping bushes, arty hide-aways and heavy corners.



aps1 #4 Posted 27 May 2020 - 11:18 AM

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View PostDiMtopia, on 27 May 2020 - 10:21 AM, said:

is there any site where i can find stats on the average distribution of tank types in battles?

i feel like almost every battle there are at least 3 lights and quite often 4 or 5.

battles where there's just 1 or 2 are almost non-existant, however, from time to time i do get battles with zero lights. weird.

i'm talking about tier 8-10 battles.

 

obviously this is just my perception which might very well be flawed so i'd really appreciate to see some clear numbers.

because if there really is an increase in the number of battles with 3+ scouts, as i'm suspecting after the wheelies got introduced, then i'm thinking LT missions should be reworked, right? i mean it's far more likely to get 8k spotting if you're the only scout than it is when there are 5 of you.


the LT missions are some of the easiest to do. Apart from the 279e mission where you need to on average allow your team to destroy two tanks for ten battles by spotting them or destroying the tracks. Yes you can use other tank types but it is mainly designed for lights and given the tanks you can use. Sherridan t49, manticore etc this mission is tricky. But the rest are easy with the Ebr or t100 LT 



DiMtopia #5 Posted 27 May 2020 - 11:20 AM

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View Postundutchable80, on 27 May 2020 - 12:09 PM, said:

Could the fact that the USSR LT line is currently Top of the Tree be a factor in your perception?


it might very well be. that's why i was asking for some statistics.

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I think once upon a time there were some "heat maps" created from replays. They showed the areas per class of tank. The more tanks in that area per time of the battle the hotter to area.

 

It was pretty effective at showing camping bushes, arty hide-aways and heavy corners.

 

 

that's not what i meant. i was looking for how many LTs, MTs, HTs, TDs are on average in each battle, not where on the map they play.

i have the sensation that there are more and more LTs in each battle, thus making LT missions harder.



imposter #6 Posted 27 May 2020 - 11:23 AM

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View PostDiMtopia, on 27 May 2020 - 10:20 AM, said:


it might very well be. that's why i was asking for some statistics.

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that's not what i meant. i was looking for how many LTs, MTs, HTs, TDs are on average in each battle, not where on the map they play.

i have the sensation that there are more and more LTs in each battle, thus making LT missions harder.

 

my bad - I'll go back to sleep



DiMtopia #7 Posted 27 May 2020 - 11:23 AM

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View Postaps1, on 27 May 2020 - 12:18 PM, said:


the LT missions are some of the easiest to do. Apart from the 279e mission where you need to on average allow your team to destroy two tanks for ten battles by spotting them or destroying the tracks. Yes you can use other tank types but it is mainly designed for lights and given the tanks you can use. Sherridan t49, manticore etc this mission is tricky. But the rest are easy with the Ebr or t100 LT 

 

i have already done LT-15 on my current campaign (t55a) and yeah, the missions aren't ridiculously hard if you get the right map. the problem is how are you going to do 7k spotting when there are 3-4 other lights with you. are you going to politely ask them not to spot because you have a mission?



Balc0ra #8 Posted 27 May 2020 - 11:25 AM

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View PostDiMtopia, on 27 May 2020 - 10:21 AM, said:

obviously this is just my perception which might very well be flawed so i'd really appreciate to see some clear numbers.

 

There are sites that do have some stats on that. But the issue is that they only take their stats from their users or replay sites vs directly from WG. So you can say there are no "clear" numbers, and I suspect those sites will line up with your current perception.

 

But at times, especially when a light line is top of the tree, you get 3-4 on each team on some tiers indeed.



StinkyStonky #9 Posted 27 May 2020 - 11:31 AM

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View PostDiMtopia, on 27 May 2020 - 09:21 AM, said:

 i'm thinking LT missions should be reworked, right? i mean it's far more likely to get 8k spotting if you're the only scout than it is when there are 5 of you.

Light tank missions have recently been made MUCH easier with the introduction of EBRs.

 

I got the Tier 9 EBR a few weeks ago.  On about my 10th battle I completed LT14 and on the 14th battle in it I did LT15 with honours in a battle with 3 lights per team.

I just mega rushed the forward bush and sat there for most of the game.

 



aps1 #10 Posted 27 May 2020 - 11:50 AM

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View PostDiMtopia, on 27 May 2020 - 11:23 AM, said:

 

i have already done LT-15 on my current campaign (t55a) and yeah, the missions aren't ridiculously hard if you get the right map. the problem is how are you going to do 7k spotting when there are 3-4 other lights with you. are you going to politely ask them not to spot because you have a mission?


no you are going to grind the EBR and it doesn’t really matter how many lights are on your team. 
 

or you could put binocs on your t100 and out spot any lights in your team. (Take your ammo out to as it will rescue the temptation to fire)

 

maje sure you have done  it with honours as you really need 8 orders to complete HT and TD 15 for the 260. 
LT not that hard

arty not that hard 

MT is the harder of the three but with grand batters you should always have a big enough TD pool to do the mission. 



Private_Miros #11 Posted 27 May 2020 - 12:27 PM

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Not exhaustive data obviously, but I can share what I noted for my battle duration experiment.

 

Battle tiers 8-10: 559 battles.

 

First observation: my perception was also, LTs, LTs everywhere, but as usual perception doesn't always coincide with reality. Because the average number of scouts per team was 1.68

 

No scouts: 11.1%

1 scout: 37.2%

2 scouts: 30.6%

3 scouts: 15.6%

4 scouts: 4.7%

5 scouts: 0.9%

 

 

 



WhoCares01 #12 Posted 27 May 2020 - 12:45 PM

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I strongly suggest against researching the wheelchairs - there are already too many of those broken things ruining tier 8-10.

 

That said, just this monday I managed to complete LT.15 for Obj260 with honours on Prokhorovka, and along with another battle on Malinovka also completed Coalition.9 for Obj279e (2x Patrol Duty, yesterday got a third PD on Steppes for the honours as well).

Did it with BC12t, why? Well, I went by the assumption that the tier 8 wheelchairs and Lt432s are ruining Frontline this week - kinda worked my way :)


Edited by WhoCares01, 27 May 2020 - 12:52 PM.





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