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olek_the_conquerer #1 Posted 28 May 2020 - 09:18 PM

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Hello Wargaming,

i've been a very big fan of World of Tanks for six years now. i played about 40k battles so i would call myself an above average experienced player. i testes all types of tanks and learned how to play them. i bought a lot of premium tanks and i really enjoy them for their greater income and unique playstyle, but there is one tank i really dont understand, the TOG II*. i really analyze every tank i play to see the up and downsides of it but with this tank it just doesnt add up. the very good thing about it is its gun, good penetraion and rate of fire. but the rest is just lacking a lot. the armor doesnt hold up on this tier and even the most tier 5 tanks and some tier 4 can peneteate you easily. combined with the really bad mobility this tank is what many people call and exp booster cause it dies so easy and has a lot of hitpoints. these are useless for this tank as its viewrange is limited and you get spotted very easy due to its big silhouette. playing this tank is really no fun at all and i would like to give it back if i could but thats not possible. i talked to other people about this problem and everyone agreed with me on this one, the tog needs to be buffed to be enjoyable and first and foremost playable again. so here are my sugesstions
>buff the top speed to 20kmh, that is not a real big difference, but with it this tank will be able to at least not be left out of the battle because with its speedlimit right now you very often miss the entire battle and/or cannot react if the battlesituaion changes
>buff the engine, give it at least an engine with 850hp so that it can reach its topspeed faster, right now this tank is just useless if attacked by medium tanks and even the most heavies are faster (eg kv-85)
> buff the armor, 76 mm is just not sufficient its nearly the same as the matilda, if you want this tank to be a little bit supportive to the team give it at least 120 and turret 150, i would even suggest frontal hull armor of 150, sides can be as they are
> buff view range, for such a slow tank it needs at least 380m

i know these buffs would make this tank unhistorical but then again this is just a game and its here to be fun, i dont want this tank to be overpowered in any way but i think it should stand out at what it looks to be, a real heavy tank, so give it better armor a little bit of mobility so that it can rise to glory, many people would buy this tank if it would just be a little better, right now its the worst of all premiums and i really an not happy with it

regards

olgierd


Edited by olek_the_conquerer, 28 May 2020 - 09:20 PM.


NekoPuffer_PPP #2 Posted 28 May 2020 - 09:21 PM

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More turret armor, slightly more hull armor.

 

The mobility is fine. I like it being slow, weird as that may sound...



Alcoholic_Hellhound #3 Posted 28 May 2020 - 09:33 PM

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I would like to have tier 8 premium SuperTOG, with 20 pounder gun and IDK, maybe 2500-3K HP. And dis aint no trollin.

no_skill_bob #4 Posted 28 May 2020 - 09:37 PM

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i bet, that tog would be much better if armor was good enough to withstand all the derp crap like kv2s.

Kdingo #5 Posted 28 May 2020 - 09:38 PM

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Play the tog with 50% crew for a couple of games, it will feel buffed once you put your real crew back in.

Btw the buffs you suggest would make tier7 heavies cry.



Private_Miros #6 Posted 28 May 2020 - 09:39 PM

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View PostKdingo, on 28 May 2020 - 08:38 PM, said:

Play the tog with 50% crew for a couple of games, it will feel buffed once you put your real crew back in.

Btw the buffs you suggest would make tier7 heavies cry.

 

I think it could work with a small DPM buff or a small armor buff (so that you bounce more when you angle).



24doom24 #7 Posted 28 May 2020 - 09:42 PM

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The armour layout kills this tank. You are just credits and xp for the enemy. 

Kdingo #8 Posted 28 May 2020 - 09:44 PM

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View PostPrivate_Miros, on 28 May 2020 - 09:39 PM, said:

 

I think it could work with a small DPM buff or a small armor buff (so that you bounce more when you angle).

 

I agree, but the "suggested" 150mm frontal armor would just be broken beyond believe. specially in addition to the requested 380m view range and speedbuff.

He is asking to overbuff it so it becomes an idiot proof pillbox.



NekoPuffer_PPP #9 Posted 28 May 2020 - 09:45 PM

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View Post_Carpaccio_, on 28 May 2020 - 09:33 PM, said:

I would like to have tier 8 premium SuperTOG, with 20 pounder gun and IDK, maybe 2500-3K HP. And dis aint no trollin.

 

It would need two turrets to stay competitive. Like a battleship...

 

Y E S.



MeetriX #10 Posted 28 May 2020 - 09:46 PM

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Make it longer.

olek_the_conquerer #11 Posted 28 May 2020 - 09:47 PM

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alright guys, my suggestions were over exagarated, they could fine tune my suggestions but a little more armor is definetly needed. and 150 with no angling is imo pretty ok. so id say armor and a bit more view range and thats ok. let it be slow as [edited], im ok wirth it.

Alcoholic_Hellhound #12 Posted 28 May 2020 - 09:48 PM

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View PostNekoPuffer_PPP, on 28 May 2020 - 08:45 PM, said:

 

It would need two turrets to stay competitive. Like a battleship...

 

Y E S.

 

If SuperTOG had top speed of 20 like churchills, unlike regular TOG, it would be probably the most unique tier 8 premium :D . 2500-3K HP, 20 pdr gun 230 alpha, very good DPM on CAX level.


Edited by _Carpaccio_, 28 May 2020 - 09:49 PM.


mystikro #13 Posted 28 May 2020 - 10:15 PM

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Easy buff. Sell. You're welcome.

DiMtopia #14 Posted 28 May 2020 - 10:34 PM

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it recently got an hp buff. what more can you ask for? :trollface:

Wintermute_1 #15 Posted 28 May 2020 - 11:02 PM

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View Postolek_the_conquerer, on 28 May 2020 - 09:18 PM, said:

... i testes all types of tanks and learned how to play them. 

 

You started talking bo*&%cks here.



GreenCamel #16 Posted 28 May 2020 - 11:40 PM

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It's already OP

Dramya #17 Posted 29 May 2020 - 12:24 AM

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But everyone knows the TOG is a crap tank, that's why we love it!

Gruff_ #18 Posted 29 May 2020 - 01:38 AM

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A little speed boost would be welcome, and an umbrella for open maps.

Spurtung #19 Posted 29 May 2020 - 04:52 AM

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So...you have DPM and you have HP to dish out some pain while going down.

 

TOG is fine as it is.



moenie #20 Posted 29 May 2020 - 05:08 AM

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It would be nice if it got some love.but I would much rather see the TOG I, maybe at tier IV/V..

 


Edited by moenie, 29 May 2020 - 05:17 AM.





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