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Maybe CDC need a buff

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W4RR10R_D3S7R014R #1 Posted 30 May 2020 - 10:34 AM

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And I'm asking for a wargaming buff

shikaka9 #2 Posted 30 May 2020 - 10:37 AM

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if they buff it, then they cant sell it for bonds :) Some of us expecting to see it over there

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Just  A BUFF ? , i could swear it needs several of them.

Lanrefni #4 Posted 30 May 2020 - 10:46 AM

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this tank is so meh right now, that in fact I don't get why anyone would buy, let alone, play it.

it needs something to stand out, but it just doesn't have anything going for it.



gunslingerXXX #5 Posted 30 May 2020 - 11:05 AM

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Or just place it in tier 7 with pref. MM...

Slyspy #6 Posted 30 May 2020 - 11:10 AM

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View PostgunslingerXXX, on 30 May 2020 - 11:05 AM, said:

Or just place it in tier 7 with pref. MM...

 

Given that tier six tanks can wreck it with HE I don't think that seeing tier ten is really the problem. The actual problem is that in exchange for your total lack of armour you get a tank the size of a barge with a turning circle to match carrying a pretty average gun with terrible handling. The soft stats kill the tank.

 

They would have been better off introducing it as a tier seven TD imo. 



jaxo #7 Posted 30 May 2020 - 01:23 PM

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View PostSlyspy, on 30 May 2020 - 11:10 AM, said:

 

Given that tier six tanks can wreck it with HE I don't think that seeing tier ten is really the problem. The actual problem is that in exchange for your total lack of armour you get a tank the size of a barge with a turning circle to match carrying a pretty average gun with terrible handling. The soft stats kill the tank.

 

They would have been better off introducing it as a tier seven TD imo. 

 

I don't need TD, I need french med.

CDC always had the potential to be similar tank to Leopard, fast sniper with big punch gun. Two things are killing this tank. Gun handling like you said and low damage per shell.

Give it 100 mm gun without clip but with good handling, maybe a bit higher top speed and CDC should be ok.



Slyspy #8 Posted 30 May 2020 - 02:27 PM

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View Postjaxo, on 30 May 2020 - 01:23 PM, said:

 

I don't need TD, I need french med.

CDC always had the potential to be similar tank to Leopard, fast sniper with big punch gun. Two things are killing this tank. Gun handling like you said and low damage per shell.

Give it 100 mm gun without clip but with good handling, maybe a bit higher top speed and CDC should be ok.

 

I'm not saying that you don't want your CDC to be an effective French medium, merely that they should have released it in the current as a tier seven TD in the first place. The actual tank was designed to be a TD and while the gun is not good enough for a tier eight it might have sufficed for tier seven. Slightly dodgy handling on a unwieldy paper platform is not too unusual for turreted TDs.

 

In reality the tank bleeds 1-2% WR for most player which isn't too bad, just a bit of tweaking needed to the soft stats IMO. Yes, improve the handling. But increasing the speed is not needed, merely an improvement to the soft stats so that it turns and accelerates more quickly. 



Balc0ra #9 Posted 30 May 2020 - 02:35 PM

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It is not a flexible medium, nor in a good state. But it's so far down on my tier 8 list over tanks that needs buffs. And it's global WR is above most tier 8 meds, inc the Pantera even on EU. Panther 88 is still the worst tier 8 premium medium followed by the Patton 59 on both RU and EU hanging at the 47% mark. Lying at the same WR as the 65t and the Tiger II. CDC has a 2% higher WR then all of those. So it's not in a terrible state for them to buff it soon vs some others they have planned like the Tiger II tbh.

Kdingo #10 Posted 30 May 2020 - 02:36 PM

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The amazing part of the cdc is how nicely it displays how much wg changed over the years. Once it was considered among the best meds available.. now its just a pile of kakoo.

Slyspy #11 Posted 30 May 2020 - 03:28 PM

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View PostKdingo, on 30 May 2020 - 02:36 PM, said:

The amazing part of the cdc is how nicely it displays how much wg changed over the years. Once it was considered among the best meds available.. now its just a pile of kakoo.

 

I think that your memory may be faulty. Now if you have said that the FCM was one of the most desirable heavies available then you might have a point.



Galan7891 #12 Posted 30 May 2020 - 03:35 PM

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If premiums "shouldnt" be nerfed they shouldnt be buffed either.

Objec7 #13 Posted 30 May 2020 - 03:37 PM

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View PostW4RR10R_D3S7R014R, on 30 May 2020 - 10:34 AM, said:

And I'm asking for a wargaming buff

It would be fine if arty wasn't so broken. Nerf arty so they focus heavy tanks instead of the least armored tanks.



Galan7891 #14 Posted 30 May 2020 - 03:56 PM

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View PostObjec7, on 30 May 2020 - 03:37 PM, said:

It would be fine if arty wasn't so broken. Nerf arty so they focus heavy tanks instead of the least armored tanks.


You need over-penetration mechanics for that.And currently the average WoT player has issues understanding "critical hits" can you imagine what would happen if over-pens were a thing?



Lanrefni #15 Posted 31 May 2020 - 12:41 AM

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View PostBalc0ra, on 30 May 2020 - 03:35 PM, said:

. Panther 88 is still the worst tier 8 premium medium 

i disagree

you guys just hate on the tank



Alcoholic_Hellhound #16 Posted 31 May 2020 - 03:49 AM

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Dont make me laugh. WG wont buff it, as they can only read and gather data about tanks behavior in theory, because they are braindamaged developers. They dont have any actual insight about their game so dont even hope about CDC buff.

tajj7 #17 Posted 31 May 2020 - 07:55 AM

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View PostKdingo, on 30 May 2020 - 01:36 PM, said:

The amazing part of the cdc is how nicely it displays how much wg changed over the years. Once it was considered among the best meds available.. now its just a pile of kakoo.

 

It was not great on release, it had bad gun handling even back then, it's just worse now. 

 

People were excited for it when it was initially leaked because it looked really good and had massive hp/ton, but then when it came out it had terrible soft stats for the ground resistances and the gun, which made it pretty average on release. Now powercreep happened its one of the worst.

 

I don't remember it ever being considered one of the best meds available, decent at best, if not average.

 

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I think WG just have a list of tanks they have basically written off and won't ever buff, and this is on it with tanks like the Panther 88 and the tier 10 lights. 

 

WG I think is only really interested in heavies and TDs as they sell better to the masses and they don't like making mobile paper tanks good most of the time because the Steves complain. 



s3thus #18 Posted 31 May 2020 - 12:52 PM

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They can't buff old premium tanks because then you wouldn't buy the new op ones.

Slyspy #19 Posted 31 May 2020 - 04:29 PM

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View Posts3thus, on 31 May 2020 - 12:52 PM, said:

They can't buff old premium tanks because then you wouldn't buy the new op ones.

 

Perhaps, but newer players who have only ever know those tanks to be crap would buy buffed versions quite happily. 



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View PostSlyspy, on 31 May 2020 - 04:29 PM, said:

 

Perhaps, but newer players who have only ever know those tanks to be crap would buy buffed versions quite happily. 

 

This kind of newer player?:

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