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_Marcvs_ #1 Posted 30 May 2020 - 11:27 AM

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Hello.

Today i'd like to talk about something I feel everytime I play the JPZ-line, puting aside the tier X (not bought yet :p ):

It's the sensation of having worse gun handlings than they're supposed to have.

The accuracy feels especially  affected. Here are my "gut feelings":

Jagdtiger:0.32=>0.34

Jpz2: 0.34=>0.36

Jpz: 0.33=>0.35

I especially love when I land a hit but it misteriously got deflected by god knows what. Rng works in mysterious ways I guess...

Still great tanks doe. It's just really weird sometimes.

Do you feel the same way? Do Ferdinand players feel the same way? I'd like to know.


Edited by _Marcvs_, 30 May 2020 - 11:29 AM.


24doom24 #2 Posted 30 May 2020 - 11:28 AM

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Yes there are faulty. please return them to the store you bought them from with a receipt. :popcorn:

Kdingo #3 Posted 30 May 2020 - 11:31 AM

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Accuracy in general is a bit of a shitshow, 0.3 is just marginally better then 0.6. The only difference is that one makes your shot miss by a mile the other by a yard.

Infryndiira #4 Posted 30 May 2020 - 11:58 AM

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I didn't get that feeling when grinding through the heavily armoured German TD line.

The_Naa #5 Posted 30 May 2020 - 12:06 PM

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i find the guns being accurate and reliable.

do you have a 100% crew? 



Galan7891 #6 Posted 30 May 2020 - 12:09 PM

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Having been throught the Jpz- line ,no the guns are not the issue at least for me.Its usually the suposedly armored superstructure that is problematic.

Grille line on the other hand feel like derp guns sometimes.



MeetriX #7 Posted 30 May 2020 - 01:06 PM

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View PostThe_Naa, on 30 May 2020 - 12:06 PM, said:

i find the guns being accurate and reliable.

 

Me too.

I always hit where I aim or what is inside the reticle.

 



Tom_Deekanarry #8 Posted 30 May 2020 - 03:13 PM

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View PostMeetriX, on 30 May 2020 - 01:06 PM, said:

Me too.

I always hit where I aim or what is inside the reticle.

 

Bloody hell, how do you manage that, my Stug III with the long 75 puts shots into every part of the circle bar the aim point most of the time, my Jagdpanthers not great either!



Objec7 #9 Posted 30 May 2020 - 03:40 PM

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View PostKdingo, on 30 May 2020 - 11:31 AM, said:

Accuracy in general is a bit of a shitshow, 0.3 is just marginally better then 0.6. The only difference is that one makes your shot miss by a mile the other by a yard.

Honestly that is kind of [edited], accuracy does matter and 0.3 vs. 0.35 is noticeable. On close range maybe not, but mid to long you do want to have nice dispersion. It's the difference if you hit the flat side of a vehicle or the turret pointed towards you.



tajj7 #10 Posted 30 May 2020 - 07:38 PM

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View PostObjec7, on 30 May 2020 - 02:40 PM, said:

Honestly that is kind of [edited], accuracy does matter and 0.3 vs. 0.35 is noticeable. On close range maybe not, but mid to long you do want to have nice dispersion. It's the difference if you hit the flat side of a vehicle or the turret pointed towards you.

 

I think the problem is that people don't get that even if you have a 0.3 accurate gun, at like 400m plus your aim circle is still pretty much as big as the tank you are aiming at, so you will miss the lower plate or the side of the hull and hit the turret etc. 

 

So they then think accuracy doesn't matter but don't realise that like a 0.4 accuracy gun is more like to completely miss the target full stop, and it's a particular difference when aiming at paper targets. 

 

The other issue is that a certain percentage of shots will go centre-mass anyway, largely regardless of accuracy.



Objec7 #11 Posted 30 May 2020 - 08:12 PM

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View Posttajj7, on 30 May 2020 - 07:38 PM, said:

 

I think the problem is that people don't get that even if you have a 0.3 accurate gun, at like 400m plus your aim circle is still pretty much as big as the tank you are aiming at, so you will miss the lower plate or the side of the hull and hit the turret etc. 

 

So they then think accuracy doesn't matter but don't realise that like a 0.4 accuracy gun is more like to completely miss the target full stop, and it's a particular difference when aiming at paper targets. 

 

The other issue is that a certain percentage of shots will go centre-mass anyway, largely regardless of accuracy.

But that's only if you snipe at spawn. You only need to do that with tds and they have high enough penetration to go through, with meds you take positions where you can farm side of heavies and there you will rather have accurate gun than one that just doesn't seem to hit at all.

 

In my opinion you should not even snipe cupolas at certain distances unless that really is the only option. To me accuracy does matter, I have tested all kinds of guns when playing USSR tanks and 0.3 dispersion is where it starts to be really hard to not pen. I despise guns like Defender has.


Edited by Objec7, 30 May 2020 - 08:18 PM.





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