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HWK 12 - not as bad, as people claim.

HWK 12 Germany Tier VIII LT DPM Mobility

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Lanrefni #1 Posted 31 May 2020 - 11:42 PM

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when stars align, you can do wonders with this tank.

maybe i cherry pick, maybe not, but I do easily 5k or 8k combined across 2 games.

 

sure there are better tanks, but I just wanted to know, what people think of it.

mind you, i don't even a really good crew, just the necessities.



DaniulSims #2 Posted 31 May 2020 - 11:53 PM

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WindSplitter1 #3 Posted 01 June 2020 - 12:28 AM

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Hawk 12 isn't as bad as people say.

It's worse.

 

Speed is lacking by LT standards.

Shell velocity is thrash. God forbid if you load HE. It shoots like a howitzer. Quite lackluster and without any redeeming feature. The SP IC was the same but even slower which thanks to blueprints I never had to play it. Finished the line already.

 

 



Lanrefni #4 Posted 01 June 2020 - 12:50 AM

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View PostWindSplitter1, on 01 June 2020 - 01:28 AM, said:

Speed is lacking by LT standards.

not true, at all.



_AiSaatana #5 Posted 01 June 2020 - 01:56 AM

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View PostLanrefni, on 31 May 2020 - 11:50 PM, said:

not true, at all.

it actually is. 

faster lighttanks at tier8: m41 90mm, even90, hwk30, lt432, bc12t, lttb, m41 bulldog, ebr fl10, lynx 6x6

slower lighttank:
wz132, lhmtv, t92

 

and every tank can have good games. i have seen 10k spotting games in malinovka where lighttank drives 50 meters in bush and stays there. if the tank is crap, its crap.


Edited by _AiSaatana, 01 June 2020 - 01:57 AM.


NUKLEAR_SLUG #6 Posted 01 June 2020 - 02:27 AM

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View PostWindSplitter1, on 01 June 2020 - 12:28 AM, said:

The SP IC was the same but even slower which thanks to blueprints I never had to play it. Finished the line already.

 

SPIC wasn't great, but it at least had that little autoloader so it could punch it's way out of trouble.



General_Jack_D_Ripper #7 Posted 01 June 2020 - 04:50 AM

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Driving around your heavies, peaking out when the enemy has shot and use 250mm HEAT to be annoying.

Some little mosquito, who is always there. Always somewhere, buzzing around, does not let you focus and stings when you forget about him.

 

In my eyes it is really good, if you play it that way with a lot of gold ammo.

It sucks as a LT, though. You cannot fight other LTs because of the low shell velocity. You cannot scout very good(there are mediums with better camo rating).

 

 

View PostNUKLEAR_SLUG, on 01 June 2020 - 02:27 AM, said:

 

SPIC wasn't great, but it at least had that little autoloader so it could punch it's way out of trouble.

 

 

Autoloader? :amazed:


Edited by General_Jack_D_Ripper, 01 June 2020 - 04:52 AM.


Shacou #8 Posted 01 June 2020 - 09:56 AM

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Tank itself is decent, but the potato-slinging shell velocity really turned it off to me. Especially when bobs don't shoot the targets you spotted.

Space_Vato #9 Posted 01 June 2020 - 10:44 AM

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View PostGeneral_Jack_D_Ripper, on 01 June 2020 - 04:50 AM, said:

 

Driving around your heavies, peaking out when the enemy has shot and use 250mm HEAT to be annoying.

Some little mosquito, who is always there. Always somewhere, buzzing around, does not let you focus and stings when you forget about him.

 

In my eyes it is really good, if you play it that way with a lot of gold ammo.

It sucks as a LT, though. You cannot fight other LTs because of the low shell velocity. You cannot scout very good(there are mediums with better camo rating).

 

 

 

 

Autoloader? :amazed:

 

V1.0 SP1C had a 3 shot auto loader. They nurfed it.



azakow #10 Posted 01 June 2020 - 11:13 AM

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View PostGeneral_Jack_D_Ripper, on 01 June 2020 - 04:50 AM, said:

 

Autoloader? :amazed:

It was removed when LT received +2MM and "rebalancing".


Edited by azakow, 01 June 2020 - 11:14 AM.


mpf1959 #11 Posted 01 June 2020 - 01:48 PM

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HWK 12 - not as bad, as people claim.

 

Apart from when I am in it, it is considerably worse then.



WindSplitter1 #12 Posted 01 June 2020 - 03:40 PM

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View PostNUKLEAR_SLUG, on 01 June 2020 - 01:27 AM, said:

 

SPIC wasn't great, but it at least had that little autoloader so it could punch it's way out of trouble.

 

That's just it: had.

No longer does. Otherwise it would have a proper redeeming feature. Same as the 59-16, VK 28, ELC, Chaffee, Bulldog, etc.



Lanrefni #13 Posted 01 June 2020 - 03:59 PM

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View PostWindSplitter1, on 01 June 2020 - 04:40 PM, said:

 

That's just it: had.

No longer does. Otherwise it would have a proper redeeming feature. Same as the 59-16, VK 28, ELC, Chaffee, Bulldog, etc.

The 59-16 autoloader was utter garbage, as you could not carry games with that thing.

All the pros used the 57mm.

VK 28 had a derp gun, elc was just never LT in the first place.

Bulldogs autoloader was OP, even after the nerf.



Lanrefni #14 Posted 02 June 2020 - 03:38 PM

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9k spot




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