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4ztec #1 Posted 02 June 2020 - 03:28 PM

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Observations from Sandbox server:

 

1. Bounty Equipment is worse than Improved Equipment.

 

2. Low tier equipment is getting cheaper. So if you bought a GLD @500k for your tier 2 tank it's worth gets lowered to 50k, so you can sell it @25k instead of 250k.

 

If these changes go live in that way, I will quit the game. That would just be a punch Into the face. 


Edited by 4ztec, 02 June 2020 - 04:21 PM.


qpranger #2 Posted 02 June 2020 - 03:32 PM

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View Post4ztec, on 02 June 2020 - 05:28 PM, said:

Observations from Sandbox server:

 

1. Bounty Equipment is worse than Improved Equipment.

 

2. Low tier equipment is getting cheaper. So if you bought a GLD @500k for your tier 2 tank it's worth gets lowered to 50k, so you can sell it @25k instead of 250k.

 

If these changes go live in that way, I will quit the game. That would just be a punch Into the face. 

 

WG never punched you in the face before?



Balc0ra #3 Posted 02 June 2020 - 03:36 PM

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 A: It's still early. I suspect they will do a build that might seem worse to see the data between like they did with HE to make your first point mirrored next stage. And B:... who said you won't get compensated for the 500K equipment you bought your tier II when the changes come? Just because test did not do it, don't mean it will not happen on live IF the changes come.

4ztec #4 Posted 02 June 2020 - 03:44 PM

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View PostBalc0ra, on 02 June 2020 - 02:36 PM, said:

 A: It's still early. I suspect they will do a build that might seem worse to see the data between like they did with HE to make your first point mirrored next stage. And B:... who said you won't get compensated for the 500K equipment you bought your tier II when the changes come? Just because test did not do it, don't mean it will not happen on live IF the changes come.

 

You can read it up in the Equipment 2.0 article.  I thought they maybe made a typo/mistake or something so I waited for the sandbox. But it wasn't a mistake. It's intended to be like that.

 



NPII #5 Posted 02 June 2020 - 03:44 PM

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If anyone from the staff reads this, you may consider to throw us several dozen millions of credits in the sandbox server (like in the test server) to properly test the *new* equipments.

Kdingo #6 Posted 02 June 2020 - 03:44 PM

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View Post4ztec, on 02 June 2020 - 03:28 PM, said:

Observations from Sandbox server:

 

1. Bounty Equipment is worse than Improved Equipment.

 

2. Low tier equipment is getting cheaper. So if you bought a GLD @500k for your tier 2 tank it's worth gets lowered to 50k, so you can sell it @25k instead of 250k.

 

If these changes go live in that way, I will quit the game. That would just be a punch Into the face. 

 

A bit early to rant over the changes, i wouldn´t like the changes if they are released as is but lets wet ourselves when this gets announced.

What i kinda like is the equipment finally adjusted in prices, ever since it was retarded to have various prices on equipment. Vents are vents why a heavy player has to pay more for vents then a medium/light tank player never made sense. Which made grinding heavy tanks just more costly, as other lines for no reason. And specially in mid tiers its even more punishing as you often grind xp faster then credits.

So a cost adjustment is highly appreciated... even so i don´t think anything good will come without a catch.



arthurwellsley #7 Posted 02 June 2020 - 03:45 PM

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View Post4ztec, on 02 June 2020 - 02:28 PM, said:

Observations from Sandbox server:

 

1. Bounty Equipment is worse than Improved Equipment.

 

2. Low tier equipment is getting cheaper. So if you bought a GLD @500k for your tier 2 tank it's worth gets lowered to 50k, so you can sell it @25k instead of 250k.

 

If these changes go live in that way, I will quit the game. That would just be a punch Into the face. 

 

OP either (a) English is not your first language or (b) you have poor comprehension skills.

 

The above is not what is set out in the Sandbox notes (which may never happen in any event).

 

Your point 2 The GLD on a tier II tank is covered by:

"If any equipment has already been mounted on a vehicle, then the tier of this specific tank will not be considered. For example, a Tier II vehicle with Coated Optics costing 500,000 credits, when all changes take effect, will have Coated Optics Class 1, which is designed for Tier VIII–X tanks. But this equipment will remain on the Tier II tank, and you can freely enter battle with it. If you demount this equipment, you'll be able to mount it on any vehicle that uses this specific class of equipment. However, you won’t be able to mount it on other vehicles that use a different class of this specific equipment."

 

So your 500,000 silver credit GLD will still be worth 500,000 credits.


Edited by arthurwellsley, 02 June 2020 - 03:45 PM.


4ztec #8 Posted 02 June 2020 - 03:46 PM

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View Postqpranger, on 02 June 2020 - 02:32 PM, said:

 

WG never punched you in the face before?

 

Yes but this is just too much. They make people buy the battlePass with their Bounty equipment that is supposed to be as good as improved equipment and one month later they are going to (passively) nerf it?

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View Postarthurwellsley, on 02 June 2020 - 02:45 PM, said:

 

So your 500,000 silver credit GLD will still be worth 500,000 credits.

 

Its not like that on sandbox so I hope it's just an error on WG's side.

 

But the real problem for me is the Bounty equipment, as WG charges real money/gold for it. 



24doom24 #9 Posted 02 June 2020 - 03:55 PM

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View Post4ztec, on 02 June 2020 - 02:46 PM, said:

 

 

 

But the real problem for me is the Bounty equipment, as WG charges real money/gold for it. 

The bounty equipment hasn't been nerfed though.



NekoPuffer_PPP #10 Posted 02 June 2020 - 03:56 PM

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View Post4ztec, on 02 June 2020 - 03:28 PM, said:

Observations from Sandbox server:

 

1. Bounty Equipment is worse than Improved Equipment.

 

2. Low tier equipment is getting cheaper. So if you bought a GLD @500k for your tier 2 tank it's worth gets lowered to 50k, so you can sell it @25k instead of 250k.

 

1. Well...yeah? You need to pay 3 million credits on the live server to make it as good as bond equipment, IIRC.

 

2. I see...so you're saying we should remove all the expensive equipment from our low tier tanks before these changes take place...which means we could all be RICH?!?

 

View Post4ztec, on 02 June 2020 - 03:28 PM, said:

If these changes go live in that way, I will quit the game. That would just be a punch Into the face. 

 

Yet another weak overreaction topic.

 

Game: *improves*

Player: This is terrible! I quit!

 

Ah yes...the usual...makes me feel nostalgic...



Yaccay #11 Posted 02 June 2020 - 03:56 PM

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Luckily WG already explained what will happen with "high tier" equipment already on low tier tanks. (It was in a Q&A)

 

1. They will stay on low tier tank and they will be functional. So you will not lose functionality.

2. When you remove those high tier equipment from your low tier tank, then they will be -obviously- free high tier equipment and you may mount them on high tier tank. So you will not lose money.

 

This seems to be fair.

 

Ps.: I hope WG will keep its word.....  Because in the past we saw the opposite.

 



tajj7 #12 Posted 02 June 2020 - 04:01 PM

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View Post24doom24, on 02 June 2020 - 02:55 PM, said:

The bounty equipment hasn't been nerfed though.

 

Effectively it has, it's stayed the same, but improved equipment has all gone up by 1%, so improved rammer is now 13.5% from 12.5%, but bounty rammer is still 12.5%, BUT a standard rammer in a firepower slot is now 11.5%. 



4ztec #13 Posted 02 June 2020 - 04:25 PM

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I checked the equipment for low tier tanks again. Seems to work as intended, so I changed the opening post. My fault, sorry.
But in case of the GLD for example I still think these should all be built out by default from WG when the patch arrives because otherwise we will have to spend gold on demounting equipment to get our otherwise wasted credits back.

24doom24 #14 Posted 02 June 2020 - 04:41 PM

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View Posttajj7, on 02 June 2020 - 03:01 PM, said:

 

Effectively it has, it's stayed the same, but improved equipment has all gone up by 1%, so improved rammer is now 13.5% from 12.5%, but bounty rammer is still 12.5%, BUT a standard rammer in a firepower slot is now 11.5%. 

Only indirectly though. 



Hyina #15 Posted 02 June 2020 - 05:45 PM

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Who puts GLD etc. equipments on tier 2s...?

Kdingo #16 Posted 02 June 2020 - 05:47 PM

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View PostHyina, on 02 June 2020 - 05:45 PM, said:

Who puts GLD etc. equipments on tier 2s...?

 

Connoisseurs of the more dirty parts of this game.



Crasharr #17 Posted 02 June 2020 - 07:00 PM

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View Postarthurwellsley, on 02 June 2020 - 03:45 PM, said:

 

OP either (a) English is not your first language or (b) you have poor comprehension skills.

 

The above is not what is set out in the Sandbox notes (which may never happen in any event).

 

Your point 2 The GLD on a tier II tank is covered by:

"If any equipment has already been mounted on a vehicle, then the tier of this specific tank will not be considered. For example, a Tier II vehicle with Coated Optics costing 500,000 credits, when all changes take effect, will have Coated Optics Class 1, which is designed for Tier VIII–X tanks. But this equipment will remain on the Tier II tank, and you can freely enter battle with it. If you demount this equipment, you'll be able to mount it on any vehicle that uses this specific class of equipment. However, you won’t be able to mount it on other vehicles that use a different class of this specific equipment."

 

So your 500,000 silver credit GLD will still be worth 500,000 credits.

So wait... I get to keep all my OP equipment on my low tier tanks, but any new player wont be able to get the same equipment bonus EVER on that tank!?

Man, sealclubbers must be soiling themselves right now



mmm_lawara #18 Posted 02 June 2020 - 07:03 PM

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View PostCrasharr, on 02 June 2020 - 07:00 PM, said:

So wait... I get to keep all my OP equipment on my low tier tanks, but any new player wont be able to get the same equipment bonus EVER on that tank!?

Man, sealclubbers must be soiling themselves right now

They will give same ammout - only now the will be called diffrent and cheaper but how u will get 11.5% on gun calibration staff for 500k if he is on tier 5 tank , same a new staff will give them same 11.5% on will cost 50k and called a bit diffrent( 11.5% by sandbox)



Infryndiira #19 Posted 02 June 2020 - 07:31 PM

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View PostCrasharr, on 02 June 2020 - 08:00 PM, said:

So wait... I get to keep all my OP equipment on my low tier tanks, but any new player wont be able to get the same equipment bonus EVER on that tank!?

Man, sealclubbers must be soiling themselves right now


The only difference is their cost.

 

A new player will have to pay, say, 50.000 for Improved Ventilation on a tier IV tank. But if you have a more expensive variant, it will stay on. You can always demount it to put it on a higher tier vehicle, and buy a cheaper one for the lower tier vehicle; they will both receive the exact same bonus (assuming it's not put in a specialised slot, to receive the improved bonus.)



GustyOWindflap #20 Posted 02 June 2020 - 07:39 PM

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View Posttajj7, on 02 June 2020 - 04:01 PM, said:

 

Effectively it has, it's stayed the same, but improved equipment has all gone up by 1%, so improved rammer is now 13.5% from 12.5%, but bounty rammer is still 12.5%, BUT a standard rammer in a firepower slot is now 11.5%. 

 

Didn't  i read somewhere that the Bounty Equipment will change to a 2-stage upgrade system with first upgrade still 3mil credits and second upgrade (which makes it same as Bond Equipment) costing 6 mil credits ?






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