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bnmm113 #1 Posted 03 June 2020 - 08:26 AM

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so yeah... i got this mega troll tank, and i must say that i would highly advise anyone ranting about it to try and play it, as it isnt really great, but can bring an extra punch sometimes...

i have found out, that the regular he ammo causes usually as much damage as the premium would and is much more economical... i have started playing it with just 3 he rounds, but am now loading 9 of those and am usually firing those on paper and super heavy armoured enemies.

 

what is your opinion on fv4005?



General_Jack_D_Ripper #2 Posted 03 June 2020 - 08:50 AM

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Stupid tank. Nearly as stupid as Waffenträger auf E100 was. Game would be better without such needlessly high damage guns.

It is neither OP, nor UP, it is just wrong.


Edited by General_Jack_D_Ripper, 03 June 2020 - 08:50 AM.


imendars #3 Posted 03 June 2020 - 08:54 AM

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View PostGeneral_Jack_D_Ripper, on 03 June 2020 - 10:50 AM, said:

Stupid tank. Nearly as stupid as Waffenträger auf E100 was. Game would be better without such needlessly high damage guns.

It is neither OP, nor UP, it is just wrong.

 

I remember myself at game start driving towards my chosen position aaand... wtf happened, oh i'm dead... :amazed:

Was so surprised that i wasnt even mad. :teethhappy:



JocMeister #4 Posted 03 June 2020 - 08:57 AM

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View Postbnmm113, on 03 June 2020 - 08:26 AM, said

what is your opinion on fv4005?

 

Its broken and shouldnt be in the game. As with the Strvs, Types and other abominations it brings nothing positive to the game.



tajj7 #5 Posted 03 June 2020 - 08:59 AM

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It's a bad tank that has stupid broken alpha and should have been rebalanced into something less silly years ago (along with the 215b 183)

resheph73 #6 Posted 03 June 2020 - 09:13 AM

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View Postbnmm113, on 03 June 2020 - 07:26 AM, said:

what is your opinion on fv4005?

 

It's really funny one out of 50 games, the remaining 49 you go to garage as soon as the ebr spots you. 



qpranger #7 Posted 03 June 2020 - 09:21 AM

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Is good for protecting arty.

24doom24 #8 Posted 03 June 2020 - 09:46 AM

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At least it's a real tank:teethhappy:

Japualtah #9 Posted 03 June 2020 - 09:55 AM

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Remove those abominations, please.

WindSplitter1 #10 Posted 03 June 2020 - 03:20 PM

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I agree with the general sentiment of everyone else in the thread.

 

If a player makes mistakes, it is expected they should be punished by it. Getting a ticket back to the garage from full HP to no HP when someone else presses LMB was one of the reasons why we nerfed arties.



Balc0ra #11 Posted 03 June 2020 - 03:24 PM

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High alpha that you can argue is broken with HESH on a terrible platform that relies on the team to do well. And will eat you for any small mistake you do. And like the KV-2 with HESH/HE, it can smack hard or nothing at all. My record low roll is 3 damage hitting the tip of the barrel on an IS-3.

 

It's not WT auf E100 OP or broken, far from it. But the HESH ammo leaves room for balance improvements.

 

 


Edited by Balc0ra, 03 June 2020 - 03:25 PM.


ArsenalTank #12 Posted 03 June 2020 - 04:10 PM

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View PostGeneral_Jack_D_Ripper, on 03 June 2020 - 08:50 AM, said:

Stupid tank. Nearly as stupid as Waffenträger auf E100 was. Game would be better without such needlessly high damage guns.

It is neither OP, nor UP, it is just wrong.

Well said

Kdingo #13 Posted 03 June 2020 - 11:55 PM

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View PostBalc0ra, on 03 June 2020 - 03:24 PM, said:

High alpha that you can argue is broken with HESH on a terrible platform that relies on the team to do well. And will eat you for any small mistake you do. And like the KV-2 with HESH/HE, it can smack hard or nothing at all. My record low roll is 3 damage hitting the tip of the barrel on an IS-3.

 

It's not WT auf E100 OP or broken, far from it. But the HESH ammo leaves room for balance improvements.

 

 

 

Remember the death star pre hesh nerf? I was only playing it drunk one shooting full hp is7 through the lfp for shits and giggles. Being dirty never felt better.



Infryndiira #14 Posted 04 June 2020 - 03:42 AM

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Currently, the FV 4005 really, really suffers from its downsides. The gun isn't reliable (for every time you deal a penetrating shot with HESH you have several misses, splashes, or non-pens in a row) while you can be spotted literally at maximum view range (445m) very definitively, and your stupidly slow reverse will get you killed the moment after you peek out of cover, fire your gun, and try to reverse back into cover.

 

On the plus side, it has a very workable turret: you can shoot 90 degrees to either side, and the gun depression of 10 degrees, while it doesn't ever, ever get you hull down, means you can fire your gun in most environments regardless of bumps in the terrain.

 

To really succeed in it you need good map knowledge, map awareness, and a LOT of RNG. And preferably a metric ton of HESH and premium tea and crumpets to satisfy the needs of your gunner. It is very, very expensive to run if you want any semblance of reliability. But at least it can still function as a Great Equaliser in the world of 297s, Conquerors and 268v4s. Just press 3 (or 2, if you feel like going very expensive) and smack them at their centre of mass to rebalance them.

 

Oh. And penetrating EBRs in it feels incredibly satisfying.



saxsan4 #15 Posted 04 June 2020 - 04:35 AM

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View PostJocMeister, on 03 June 2020 - 07:57 AM, said:

 

Its broken and shouldnt be in the game. As with the Strvs, Types and other abominations it brings nothing positive to the game.


No, it adds diversity to the game

 

I have fv215b 183 and I run 3 AP 1 HE and rest hush, hesh is always better than HE

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View PostWindSplitter1, on 03 June 2020 - 02:20 PM, said:

I agree with the general sentiment of everyone else in the thread.

 

If a player makes mistakes, it is expected they should be punished by it. Getting a ticket back to the garage from full HP to no HP when someone else presses LMB was one of the reasons why we nerfed arties.


No, parties was nerfed because you can't defend  against them FV4005 is a very weak tank and is very balanced, now with only 230 pen on hesh.

 

 



Hamsterkicker #16 Posted 04 June 2020 - 08:21 AM

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This tank is great for teaching passive play.  You can not peak, you can not go out of hard cover, you should never ever get spotted, you should never go alone, you should either go up close in a city or stay way back at max render range in open maps, you need ages to aim, the flank you choose at the start of the game will be where you are at the end of the game as you have no mobility, you need not get frustrated by misses, no pen, low damage rolls etc..

 

but Boy when it hits it hits hard.



iraqxlol #17 Posted 04 June 2020 - 08:37 AM

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FV215 183 is much more annoying.

 

You can't change my mind.



gunslingerXXX #18 Posted 04 June 2020 - 08:59 AM

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Tier 10 KV-2

 

Offers unique gameplay and provides variation to the game (I don't have it btw). Not OP so should remain as-is.

 

Sometimes it will delete you from the game, just push battle again and you can play again, no big deal. Variation is more important than one guy raging for his stats.



Objec7 #19 Posted 04 June 2020 - 05:13 PM

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View PostgunslingerXXX, on 04 June 2020 - 08:59 AM, said:

Tier 10 KV-2

 

Offers unique gameplay and provides variation to the game (I don't have it btw). Not OP so should remain as-is.

 

Sometimes it will delete you from the game, just push battle again and you can play again, no big deal. Variation is more important than one guy raging for his stats.

Imo it's much stronger than KV-2 and that's the problem. It can oneshot tanks, has broken HESH and the gun is not bad considering it has 1750 alpha, doesn't even matter if you pen or not. 700-800 damage splash on heavy tanks is not rare of what I've played against it. Remove broken HESH, it won't be go gold or go home tank anymore and it's not broken either.



Kdingo #20 Posted 04 June 2020 - 05:16 PM

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On the other hand, its probably feels nearly orgasmic when you manage to one shoot a wheelchair while its on full speed racing around.





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