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otanku #1 Posted 04 June 2020 - 09:51 AM

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Hello tankers, 

 

Further to being forbidden from creating a topic on the subforum Public Test, Im gonna post it here.

 

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INTRODUCTION 

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So, in this topic, Im gonna show you the improvement of the Improved Aiming Unit, one of the new equipement in the update equipement 2.0

 

For people who don't know what this equipement does, it reduces the size of the aiming circle, hence a better accuracy. I will put the numbers in the experiment. 

 

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EXPERIMENT

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To proceed so, I decided to take a screenshot of my screen in order to see the different circle sizes according to the following layouts :

 

  1. with the equipement at the bonus slot : 9% accuracy
  2. with the equipement at a regular slot : 5% accuracy
  3. without the equipement : 

 

All my results stems from the same experiment every single time to make it fair, but its seems obvious. Those were my requirements

 

  • Same map : Himmelsdorf
  • Same location : fountain ( In front of the castle, at the bottom ) 
  • Same aiming spot : little castle turret on the left of the castle
  • Same external layout : that won't change the size of the aiming circle, but I didn't change anything 
  • Same tank (obviously lmao) : Lansen C 
  • Same aiming value : x25

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RESULTS

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And those are the results : 

 

shot_004.jpgshot_003.jpgshot_002.jpg

 

 If you quickly swap pictures, you'll see a tiny difference, but its still not obvious.

 

So to make it more clear for you, I decided to create a pattern of each circles, and put them together, all centered thanks to my photomontage software.

 

shot_007.jpg

 

And now you can see the difference ! 

 

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INTERPRETATION 

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As you can see, the improvements are almost of 5% each ( indeed, 9% is close to 10% ) and in-game, it looks like pretty good

 

But for people who don't know, the size of the circle is also a setting of the RNG firing program. So you'll have better shots thanks to this equipement. 

 

This equipement looks balanced, because results are not overpowered but still worth taking !

 

⚠ Also know that this improvement is according to current tank's circle size, so you'll see it much less on an Strv rather than an IS for example. 

 

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EXTRA

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I've tried it in game, with the same tank, the Lansen C, my favorite tier 8 tank which is not a very accurate tank, trust me. And honestly, it worked well ! 

I still had horrendous shots sometimes, but less often. 

 

Honestly, I will definitely put it on my main account. 

 

 

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Edited by MaxandChloe4ever, 04 June 2020 - 11:03 AM.


trispect #2 Posted 04 June 2020 - 10:12 AM

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New equipment is only just on a sandbox and it's definitely not coming with 1.9.1 which have already went through 3 rounds of public test.

otanku #3 Posted 04 June 2020 - 10:16 AM

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View Posttrispect, on 04 June 2020 - 09:12 AM, said:

New equipment is only just on a sandbox and it's definitely not coming with 1.9.1 which have already went through 3 rounds of public test.

 

Edited ! Thanks !



Spartan_93 #4 Posted 04 June 2020 - 11:15 AM

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This kind of equiment is already available in WoWp and there it is really usefull.

 

My idea behind this equipment is: A= π*r2

If the radius (maxium spread) is only 0,91, the total area where you shot can land is 0,912 ≈ 0,83.

You can reduce this area by 17%, which is really nice (and this 17% is the kind of area, where you don't want your shots to land).

 

On the other hand, there is other usefull equipment, so there is allways a tradeoff.



trispect #5 Posted 04 June 2020 - 12:42 PM

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View Postotanku, on 04 June 2020 - 11:16 AM, said:

 

Edited ! Thanks !

Np.:) I tested it also with Lorraine 40t and it helps with that tank also considerably.



Flicka #6 Posted 04 June 2020 - 12:57 PM

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Funny part is this equipment will be more usefull on tanks with "bad" accuracy, especially in HE firing category.

Just being able to slap a tank with more consistency.

 

I tried it on grille, got to 0.21 acc, not useful at all on that tank.



kejmo #7 Posted 04 June 2020 - 12:58 PM

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So basically, this equipment reduces rng by 5% or 9%. Does that mean 25%-5/9% (so you basically get 20/14%) or does it mean 5/9% from 25 (which gets you to 23.7 or 22.7%) ?

dan_dix #8 Posted 04 June 2020 - 01:35 PM

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View Postkejmo, on 04 June 2020 - 12:58 PM, said:

So basically, this equipment reduces rng by 5% or 9%. Does that mean 25%-5/9% (so you basically get 20/14%) or does it mean 5/9% from 25 (which gets you to 23.7 or 22.7%) ?

 

Has nothing to do with the "25% RNG" concept. the 25% applies to penetration power value at impact. This is aiming circle we are talking about, which has different dynamics



undutchable80 #9 Posted 04 June 2020 - 01:57 PM

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Test T49 derp next. :B

SoupFork #10 Posted 04 June 2020 - 02:08 PM

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All I needed to see how horrible this equipment rework is:

Dez built an EBR105 that keeps spotted enemies lit up for 18 seconds...



24doom24 #11 Posted 04 June 2020 - 02:49 PM

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Got the foch 155 from 0.35 to 0.28. Definitely gonna be a main piece for my TDs. 

p6kk #12 Posted 04 June 2020 - 06:51 PM

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Equipement 2.0 it will never be a game. but such an improvement in accuracy once existed. all tanks were made more accurate and then made inaccurate again and added to RNG and WG lost e-sports. the only thing WG can do and what people want - lose gold ammo or regular ammo. make the game equal. This is not a game where some players are spamming full gold ammo and they will win games. It's so sad and makes the game uninteresting.


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_Anarchistic_ #13 Posted 04 June 2020 - 08:37 PM

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have to say having been on sandbox a lot and some of the results are going to break this game even more.

I genuinely think this needs to be binned and start again but am genuinely worried this is the final product and the game will suffer another huge loss of players when it is introduced and breaks the game mechanics.

I can see more and more players quit because they simply don't have a clue what to do and arty is trashing every game with 18 seconds of being spotted, probably only 1 square from your spawn as ebrs yolo the spawns and effectively kill the enemy team in first 30 seconds

 

if only WG would invest the time and effort in undoing all the mistakes of the last three years instead of making more and heading further down the dead end they are going.

unless of course they have lost interest and just want to quit, and head to the beaches in cyprus


Edited by _Anarchistic_, 04 June 2020 - 08:41 PM.


Gkirmathal #14 Posted 04 June 2020 - 08:42 PM

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All in all IMO, equipment 2.0 will only actually be useful for tier 8 to tier 10.

 

On 6 and 7 the tech tree still has too many potato launchers (awful aim times, acc and soft stats), that can not be offset by what equip. 2.0 brings due to them only getting 1 specialty slot and most not being an actual useful specialty slot. Like "mobility slot" being the singly specialty all medium were give...like c'mon...



Homer_J #15 Posted 04 June 2020 - 09:12 PM

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View Postkejmo, on 04 June 2020 - 12:58 PM, said:

So basically, this equipment reduces rng by 5% or 9%. Does that mean 25%-5/9% (so you basically get 20/14%) or does it mean 5/9% from 25 (which gets you to 23.7 or 22.7%) ?

 

Nothing to do with RNG, it reduces the circle which your shots land in by 5%/9%



the_nebuchadnezzar #16 Posted 04 June 2020 - 09:48 PM

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Will the purple equipment keep it's stats? Are they going to change them also? 

General_Jack_D_Ripper #17 Posted 04 June 2020 - 10:48 PM

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I like this equipment, it is an alternative to vert stabs on some tank.

Good idea.



Galaxy_class #18 Posted 04 June 2020 - 11:34 PM

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Improved aiming on arty is not good though.

otanku #19 Posted 13 June 2020 - 09:29 AM

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View Postthe_nebuchadnezzar, on 04 June 2020 - 08:48 PM, said:

Will the purple equipment keep it's stats? Are they going to change them also? 

 

This is not the purple equipement, this is the normal one but on the special slot.






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