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Standard B vs. Progetto 65 OR E50 vs. E50M

Standard B Progetto 65 E50 E50M lower tier vs. higher tier battlefield performance stronger tank

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Torpsi #1 Posted 05 June 2020 - 02:40 PM

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Hi Guys,

 

I started this week a poll about the tanks with the strongest battlefield performance within its class (irrespective of its tier). I did this among others to see what people think about the Italian tier 9 vs. tier 10.

 

There are tanks where the higher tier tank has the better gun and other big improvements compared to its predecessor. However, at the Italian tier 9 & 10 as well as the German E50 and E50M I do not see big improvements. Knowing that the question about the Italians has been risen in February already I am surprised how many of you favor the Progetto 65 over the Standard B.

 

So I would specifically ask those of you who prefer the Progetto 65 or the E50M compared to their predecessors why this is the case? The Improvements are so marginal compared to the higher tier tanks they have to fight that I would have assumed the lower tier predecessors would have been rated better on the question of “the strongest battlefield performance” (same thing applies to US arty tier 8 vs. tier 9).

 

Do you know any other pairs where the lower tier tank is almost equal to the successor and where you would prefer the lower tier because of its better MM? Post it here.

 

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Torpsi


Edited by Torpsi, 05 June 2020 - 02:58 PM.


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tbh both tier 10's are better than the tier 9's BUT tier 9 MM is so much better than tier 10 at the moment so overall the tier 9's are better to play.

Edited by _Signal_, 05 June 2020 - 08:52 PM.


MaxandChloe4ever #3 Posted 05 June 2020 - 02:47 PM

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I think the Standard B is a tier 9.5 tank, and tier for tier it's stronger than the Progetto 65.

E50M is just a better E50, but both are not great tank so. :trollface:



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View PostTorpsi, on 05 June 2020 - 02:40 PM, said:

Hi Guys,

 

I started this week a poll about the tanks with the strongest battlefield performance within its class (irrespective of its tier). I did this among others to see what people think about the Italian tier 9 vs. tier 10.

 

There are tanks where the higher tier tank has the better gun and other big improvements compared to its predecessor. However, at the Italian tier 9 & 10 as well as the German E50 and E50M I do not see big improvements. Knowing that the question about the Italians has been risen in February already I am surprised how many of you favor the Progetto 65 over the Standard B.

 

So I would specifically ask those of you who prefer the Progetto 65 or the E50M compared to their predecessors why this is the case? The Improvements are so marginal compared to the higher tier tanks they have to fight that I would have assumed the lower tier predecessors would have been rated better on the question of “the strongest battlefield performance” (same thing applies to US arty tier 8 vs. tier 9).

 

Do you know any other pairs where the lower tier tank is almost equal to the successor and where you would prefer the lower tier because of its better MM? Post it here.

 

Best

 

Torpsi

Tier 10 sucks currently, Standard B is hard to play but one of the best tier 9 meds, E50 is very good as well.



saxsan4 #5 Posted 05 June 2020 - 05:13 PM

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I always bounce shells on proegtto 4 hull, standard b Is complete paper so yes there is an upgrade

 

E50M seems pointless to me



arthurwellsley #6 Posted 05 June 2020 - 05:18 PM

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Shh special secret, if you think that the Standard B is good in the best tier in the game I did not mention the Skoda T 50, no you did not hear that here. These are not the tier IX's that you are looking for.



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Standard B ---> Progetto 65:

- improved drum

- better gun handling, accuracy and aim time, improved DPM.

- lower profile

- better hull armour with good angling on UFP

 

E50 ---> E50M

- better power:weight, less sluggish therefore a lot more useful when it comes to brawling and ramming.

- better gun handling, accuracy, aim time.

 



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View Postsaxsan4, on 05 June 2020 - 04:13 PM, said:

I always bounce shells on proegtto 4 hull, standard b Is complete paper so yes there is an upgrade

 

E50M seems pointless to me

 

E50M the meme tank of World of Tanks has it's points (just not the ones you think they are)



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View PostTorpsi, on 05 June 2020 - 01:40 PM, said:

 

 

Do you know any other pairs where the lower tier tank is almost equal to the successor and where you would prefer the lower tier because of its better MM? Post it here.

 

Lots. AMX 30 over AMX 30B, Leopard PTA over Leo 1, Cent 7/1 over Cent AX maybe even Obj 430 over 430U.



TheDrownedApe #10 Posted 05 June 2020 - 08:10 PM

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View Posttank276, on 05 June 2020 - 06:37 PM, said:

Lots. AMX 30 over AMX 30B, Leopard PTA over Leo 1, Cent 7/1 over Cent AX maybe even Obj 430 over 430U.

 

So every T9 over their TX sibling?

 

who would have thought that (i jest ofc)?


Edited by TheDrownedApe, 05 June 2020 - 08:17 PM.


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View PostTheDrownedApe, on 05 June 2020 - 07:10 PM, said:

 

 

So every T9 over their TX sibling?

 

who would have thought that (i jest ofc)?


Well, not really all of them, i.e.  STB-1, M48, obj140, UDES 15/16 are better than their t9 counterparts.

I play better statistically in the type 61 but I recognize the STB-1 is stronger for sure.

 



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View Posttank276, on 05 June 2020 - 10:39 PM, said:


Well, not really all of them, i.e.  STB-1, M48, obj140, UDES 15/16 are better than their t9 counterparts.

I play better statistically in the type 61 but I recognize the STB-1 is stronger for sure.

 

m46 and T-54 are stronger tier for tier than tier 10s that follow them.

p.s. i dont understand all the hype over standard B, yes its a good tank overall, but gun handling just makes me mad sometimes, completely missing fully aimed shots like i was playing with grille 15 or something :D unlike progetto 65, which is brilliant in every way. skoda t50 over any other tier 9 med any day.


Edited by Voldemars_Veiss, 05 June 2020 - 10:37 PM.





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