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N_Joi #1 Posted 06 June 2020 - 12:58 PM

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Hello all

I don't know about you but since the last patch WOT has changed?

My Winrate has gone from 52% - 51.9% and the teams are so unbalanced on the skill level it getting ridiculous, I'm getting trounced 15-0 

 

anybody else notice



frange #2 Posted 06 June 2020 - 01:09 PM

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I do feel like it has gone back to the old 3-5-7 MM since 1-2 month ago, getting constant bottom tier in +2 MM, no matter what tier I play.

 

Have been playing the Pudel (tier VI) a lot the last week to train a crew for the Polish MTs - and facing VIII about every time - so funny facing Defenders, Progettos, EBR 75 and the new blyat ISU152K in almost every match.

At best 1 in 10 matches facing tier VI-only-matches...

 

As said - feels like the old broken MM a few years ago...



splash_time #3 Posted 06 June 2020 - 01:17 PM

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Played 10 battles yesterday, 88% WR. So no, nothing changed, but it's just you having a bad day.

N_Joi #4 Posted 06 June 2020 - 01:22 PM

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Just had another 15-2, sorry I agree with Frange

CmdRatScabies #5 Posted 06 June 2020 - 01:30 PM

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Had a series of game that were easy wins or steamroll losses.  Have a feeling that there is a wide variation in player ability in the game at the moment and the random matchmaker ends up putting strong players on one team and weak on the other - if abilities were closer then the results might not be so one sided. 

 

Effect can be more pronounced when there are lots of platoons - good players tend to platoon with good players, weak with weak so the matchmaker is more likely to create unbalanced teams.

 

I wouldn't like to see SBMM but it would help if player's abilities were a bit closer.



N_Joi #6 Posted 06 June 2020 - 01:33 PM

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View PostCmdRatScabies, on 06 June 2020 - 12:30 PM, said:

Had a series of game that were easy wins or steamroll losses.  Have a feeling that there is a wide variation in player ability in the game at the moment and the random matchmaker ends up putting strong players on one team and weak on the other - if abilities were closer then the results might not be so one sided. 

 

Effect can be more pronounced when there are lots of platoons - good players tend to platoon with good players, weak with weak so the matchmaker is more likely to create unbalanced teams.

 

I wouldn't like to see SBMM but it would help if player's abilities were a bit closer.

Good analysis



malachi6 #7 Posted 06 June 2020 - 01:36 PM

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The game has changed because your win rate dropped by 0.1%?  I can play hungry and achieve that, no conspiracy theories needed.

 

Guys.  A feeling is not evidence.  Humans are hard-wired for false-positives, it a survival trait.  Read this and apply the cognitive bias that best fits:

 

https://wisetoast.com/types-of-decision-making-cognitive-biases/

 

N_Joi



Johnny_B #8 Posted 06 June 2020 - 01:52 PM

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View Postfrange, on 06 June 2020 - 12:09 PM, said:

I do feel like it has gone back to the old 3-5-7 MM since 1-2 month ago, getting constant bottom tier in +2 MM, no matter what tier I play.

 

Have been playing the Pudel (tier VI) a lot the last week to train a crew for the Polish MTs - and facing VIII about every time - so funny facing Defenders, Progettos, EBR 75 and the new blyat ISU152K in almost every match.

At best 1 in 10 matches facing tier VI-only-matches...

 

As said - feels like the old broken MM a few years ago...

 

Do modules matter? I noticed that when playing a stock tank I would be in the top tier more often, but with all gear researched I would get nothing but bottom tier with +2 MM, as you said.


Edited by Johnny_B, 06 June 2020 - 04:43 PM.


Ricox #9 Posted 06 June 2020 - 02:21 PM

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View Postmalachi6, on 06 June 2020 - 12:36 PM, said:

The game has changed because your win rate dropped by 0.1%?  I can play hungry and achieve that, no conspiracy theories needed.

 

Guys.  A feeling is not evidence.  Humans are hard-wired for false-positives, it a survival trait.  Read this and apply the cognitive bias that best fits:

 

https://wisetoast.com/types-of-decision-making-cognitive-biases/

 

N_Joi

 

Don't bother, most topics on this forum are bad or average players complaining that "bad teams" are making it hard for them to win or keep their lucky higher-than-reality stats. Could write an entire novel on logical fallacies, cognitive biases and examples of pure unadultered ignorance from just one of these type of threads.

 

EDIT: I mean just the three first posts on this thread alone prove the point... someone posts something that fits own bias, OP gets just ONE single unlucky battle and then concludes whatever random theory must be true. (And hell, it could be true, but then it's down to luck, not any rational reasoning)

 

View PostN_Joi, on 06 June 2020 - 12:22 PM, said:

Just had another 15-2, sorry I agree with Frange

 


Edited by Ricox, 06 June 2020 - 02:23 PM.


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View PostN_Joi, on 06 June 2020 - 12:58 PM, said:

Hello all

I don't know about you but since the last patch WOT has changed?

My Winrate has gone from 52% - 51.9% and the teams are so unbalanced on the skill level it getting ridiculous, I'm getting trounced 15-0 

 

anybody else notice

:facepalm:

OMG, OMG -0,1%

call customer service demand your money back



NUKLEAR_SLUG #11 Posted 06 June 2020 - 02:35 PM

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View PostN_Joi, on 06 June 2020 - 12:58 PM, said:

Hello all

I don't know about you but since the last patch WOT has changed?

My Winrate has gone from 52% - 51.9% and the teams are so unbalanced on the skill level it getting ridiculous, I'm getting trounced 15-0 

 

anybody else notice

 

What do you believe your winrate should be?

 

If your winrate had gone up to 52.1% would you have posted on the forum to complain about that too? 



Balc0ra #12 Posted 06 June 2020 - 03:16 PM

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View PostN_Joi, on 06 June 2020 - 01:22 PM, said:

Just had another 15-2, sorry I agree with Frange

 

See... we get topics like this after every patch for as long as I can remember.  As in "something was done with the MM etc" since some notices it vs others vs last week etc. As in a streak of 15-2 games appearing. It's not like they just appeared after the last patch.

 

But we have seen these topics more than usual of late. I suspect the fact that most "weekend warriors" are in lockdown and are playing daily vs a 2-3 times a week might be affecting it more then WG's last patch did. As there are more "Steves" in their KV-1 and IS-7 to go around vs normal.



NekoPuffer_PPP #13 Posted 06 June 2020 - 03:38 PM

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View PostN_Joi, on 06 June 2020 - 12:58 PM, said:

Hello all

I don't know about you but since the last patch WOT has changed?

My Winrate has gone from 52% - 51.9% and the teams are so unbalanced on the skill level it getting ridiculous, I'm getting trounced 15-0 

 

anybody else notice

 

Why, oh why, must there always be someone with MM-related conspiracy theories claiming something has changed...

 

Why do people not understand what the "random" in "random battles" means?...

 

Nothing has changed.

 

Nothing will change...unless it gets mentioned in the patchnotes.



azakow #14 Posted 06 June 2020 - 05:33 PM

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View PostNekoPuffer_PPP, on 06 June 2020 - 03:38 PM, said:

 

Why, oh why, must there always be someone with MM-related conspiracy theories claiming something has changed...

 

Why do people not understand what the "random" in "random battles" means?...

 

Nothing has changed.

 

Nothing will change...unless it gets mentioned in the patchnotes.

This is close to a conspiracy theory on its own!



The_Naa #15 Posted 06 June 2020 - 05:40 PM

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View PostN_Joi, on 06 June 2020 - 12:58 PM, said:

Hello all

I don't know about you but since the last patch WOT has changed?

My Winrate has gone from 52% - 51.9% and the teams are so unbalanced on the skill level it getting ridiculous, I'm getting trounced 15-0 

 

anybody else notice

 

 

nope, everything is looking good this week:

Spoiler

 

as it did last week.

Spoiler

 

so dont know what to tell you. :girl:



Elleriel #16 Posted 06 June 2020 - 05:40 PM

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You are lowering victory rate and it's normal, Key attribution of battles and players is made for everyone rise or lower into 48-52 % victory in total.

So if you are going to go outside this, WG will put you in tomato teams enough time so you lose and lower your % of wins. 



redman75 #17 Posted 09 June 2020 - 08:01 AM

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This game is so unballanced that I quit playing it.If I purchase a tier 8 tank one  game is with same tier tanks  and 9 of 10 games are with tier 10 tanks , there are many games with 3 arty in open maps.The algorithm favorised premium accounts If I dont play with premium account winrate decreased dramatic, wg put you in a looser team.I have games with 5 dings with obj 268 4 who has 293 penn.

_Signal_ #18 Posted 09 June 2020 - 08:13 AM

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Well to be fair we are seeing the result of WG's policy of handing out BP', Boosters x5's like candy over the last 12 months, so you now have literally thousands of players in tanks they have neither the skill to play or the interest to learn how to. This is seemingly more prevelant at tier 8-10, you only need a couple of extra bad players at those tiers to lose their tanks quite early on and this will cause a steam roll.  Tier 10 is an utter joke these days and tier 9 albeit probably the best tier or at least one of the best tiers to play I;ve noticed a fair increase in 15/1-4 roll overs basically because you lose 4 tanks within 2 minutes and it's hard to come back from that so early. You then checks their stats and it's mostly sub 50% WR chaps with less than 5k games in tier 10 tanks.

Aleo #19 Posted 09 June 2020 - 08:20 AM

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My subjective view on this is that yes, something has changed. Tier 4 meets tier 6 more often, more 3/5/7 ( or 3/6/6) now than before unless you play tier 8, and a lot more 15-2/3 battles. This is all unsubstantiated claims from me and might be anecdotal.. but it makes me like the game less. 

Spurtung #20 Posted 09 June 2020 - 08:54 AM

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View PostN_Joi, on 06 June 2020 - 12:22 PM, said:

Just had another 15-2, sorry I agree with Frange

 

...because he agreed with you.

 

That's quite the circular validation process.


Edited by Spurtung, 09 June 2020 - 08:54 AM.





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