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MrXxMartinoxXilPro #1 Posted 09 June 2020 - 03:45 PM

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why are people all about padding in the pz 38 na? when the pz. iii j is better in every single aspect exepct viewrange? way more armor, more mobility, better gun handling, i've been playing tier 4 with my wife to help her with the grind, and i realized this

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viewrange is very important in low tier....

DaniulSims #3 Posted 09 June 2020 - 03:48 PM

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...what?

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View PostMrXxMartinoxXilPro, on 09 June 2020 - 03:45 PM, said:

wht are people all about padding in the pz 38 na? when the pz. iii j is better in every single aspect exepct viewrange? way more armor, more mobility, better gun handling, i've been playing tier 4 with my wife to help her with the grind, and i realized this

 

Aehm.. 370 m viewrange vs 330, and lets not forget the camo values. Pz III J is just worse for padding by every measure.

If you use the 38 na you probably also use the 4.7cm with full prem ammo, as this gun has basically no aimtime.


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Balc0ra #5 Posted 09 June 2020 - 03:52 PM

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What's better for you, is not better for others. 38 might work better for their style. 

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View PostKdingo, on 09 June 2020 - 02:50 PM, said:

 

Aehm.. 370 m viewrange vs 330, and lets forget the camo values. Pz III J is just worse for padding by every measure.

If you use the 38 na you probably also use the 4.7cm with full prem ammo, as this gun has baiscally no aimtime.

well, uhm, we're playing world of tanks, 99% of maps are tunnel maps where alpha damage and armor beats camo and viewrange,  and if you slap binos on it's gonna be enough

 

worse viewrange is gonna be worse if you're carrying the game on something like progorovka 1vs5, but most of the time low tier games are 16 0

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View PostDaniulSims, on 09 June 2020 - 02:48 PM, said:

...what?

do you speak english? it's written in english


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View PostMrXxMartinoxXilPro, on 09 June 2020 - 03:54 PM, said:

well, uhm, we're playing world of tanks, 99% of maps are tunnel maps where alpha damage and armor beats camo and viewrange, 

ummm, but somehow there are also open maps (mines as well), and were talking about low tiers, where there isnt viewrange saturation....



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View Postbnmm113, on 09 June 2020 - 02:56 PM, said:

ummm, but somehow there are also open maps (mines as well), and were talking about low tiers, where there isnt viewrange saturation....

honestly i don't see any situation where i would've done better in a 38t in mines, maybe progorovka


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View PostMrXxMartinoxXilPro, on 09 June 2020 - 03:54 PM, said:

well, uhm, we're playing world of tanks, 99% of maps are tunnel maps where alpha damage and armor beats camo and viewrange,  and if you slap binos on it's gonna be enough

 

worse viewrange is gonna be worse if you're carrying the game on something like progorovka 1vs5, but most of the time low tier games are 16 0

 

Hey you can believe the pz iii J is better if you feel like it, you just wanted to know why padders don´t use it, i told you why. The 38 NA is just simply better with more options on whatever map you find yourself on.

Optics/vents/binos and you can farm spotting damage like there is no tomorrow and play vision games vs all those poor clueless seals you encounter.



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PZ.3J and 38 NAA?

why not PZ.4D? better Alpha, Pen, its just has a better gun than the other tier 4 german tanks on a turret.



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I was staring at all the Tier 4 Germs (ha!) for a while until I realised that actually ALL of them are fine to play... Pz 38NA, Luchs, IIIJ, IVD, 20.01D, DW2, Pz B2, Hetzer, Marder 38, StuG IIIB, StuPa II... Only one I do not know about is the PzSfl IVB. :popcorn:

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View PostMiepie, on 09 June 2020 - 03:32 PM, said:

I was staring at all the Tier 4 Germs (ha!) for a while until I realised that actually ALL of them are fine to play... Pz 38NA, Luchs, IIIJ, IVD, 20.01D, DW2, Pz B2, Hetzer, Marder 38, StuG IIIB, StuPa II... Only one I do not know about is the PzSfl IVB. :popcorn:

 

The PzSfl IVB is pretty effective also.

Low tier German tanks generally seem to me to be very effective



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View PostKdingo, on 09 June 2020 - 03:03 PM, said:

 

Hey you can believe the pz iii J is better if you feel like it, you just wanted to know why padders don´t use it, i told you why. The 38 NA is just simply better with more options on whatever map you find yourself on.

Optics/vents/binos and you can farm spotting damage like there is no tomorrow and play vision games vs all those poor clueless seals you encounter.

why not drop optics for gld? aimtime sucks

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View PostBulldog_Drummond, on 09 June 2020 - 04:21 PM, said:

 

The PzSfl IVB is pretty effective also.

Low tier German tanks generally seem to me to be very effective

so do high tiers, idk why people hate so much on the tiger 1 and 2, i've been playing them on my wifes account, tiger 2 is a solid tank in a skilled player's hands, it can side scrape unlike the so loved is3, gun is A BIT underwhelming tho, dpm sucks for 320 alpha, i'd give it a nice dpm buff, and maybe gun handling



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View PostMrXxMartinoxXilPro, on 09 June 2020 - 04:39 PM, said:

why not drop optics for gld? aimtime sucks

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so do high tiers, idk why people hate so much on the tiger 1 and 2, i've been playing them on my wifes account, tiger 2 is a solid tank in a skilled player's hands, it can side scrape unlike the so loved is3, gun is A BIT underwhelming tho, dpm sucks for 320 alpha, i'd give it a nice dpm buff, and maybe gun handling

 

GLD confirmed useful on things not arty and high caliber bush wanker?

Aimtime on the Pz is 1.27 seconds... I don't think that ranks as "it sucks". Vision is simply more important at low tier anyway.

 

German tanks aren't bad. KT and Panther II are relics that aren't meta anymore, but so are the US tech tree tier 8s. E-100 isn't meta either. JP E-100 is awkward. Ferdi is bad. But for the rest, the German tech tree ranges from decent to really good.

 


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View PostMrXxMartinoxXilPro, on 09 June 2020 - 05:39 PM, said:

why not drop optics for gld? aimtime sucks

 

4.7cm has 1.3 aimtime, why bother with gld. That aside, gun laying drive is usually a rather worthless piece of equipment.



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people use the 4.7? didn't know. 

 

the top gun has better alpha pen and dpm, bit more derpy, also better gold ammo pen which rly counts when you're facing something like a kv1 churchil excelrior or whatever it's called


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View PostMrXxMartinoxXilPro, on 09 June 2020 - 04:53 PM, said:

people use the 4.7? didn't know. 

 

the top gun has better alpha pen and dpm, bit more derpy, also better gold ammo pen which rly counts when you're facing something like a kv1 churchil excelrior or whatever it's called

 

115mm is enough to deal with everything semi-reliably.

 

130mm isn't a jump that makes a whole world of difference at that tier, certainly not when the first one hits reliably and the second doesn't at 400m.

 

You guys made me buy a Pz 38(t) nA. Screw you guys.



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View PostPrivate_Miros, on 09 June 2020 - 05:00 PM, said:

 

115mm is enough to deal with everything semi-reliably.

 

130mm isn't a jump that makes a whole world of difference at that tier, certainly not when the first one hits reliably and the second doesn't at 400m.

 

You guys made me buy a Pz 38(t) nA. Screw you guys.

 


Personally, out of the Pz 38t na, the Pz IIIJ and the Pz IVD mentioned as options, I would go for the former.  If nothing else it is a Light, so it's a bit harder to spot than the other two, and it is quite zippy, so does good duty as a sniper/spotter cum exploiter.  And its armour is as good as the other two.  The top 75 gun on the IVD is okay but has a horribly slow aim time.

I also prefer the 5cm gun on the  Pz 38t na.  While the 4.7cm looks very attractive on paper I find it doesn't do anything like the same amount of damage as the 5cm

I am proud to report that in my Pz 38t na I am apparently better than 99.2% of other players, which frankly doesn't say much for the other users, as I'm not much good.

 


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View PostPrivate_Miros, on 09 June 2020 - 05:00 PM, said:

 

115mm is enough to deal with everything semi-reliably.

 

130mm isn't a jump that makes a whole world of difference at that tier, certainly not when the first one hits reliably and the second doesn't at 400m.

 

You guys made me buy a Pz 38(t) nA. Screw you guys.

lol, gl getting that 8000 wn8 every battle, only need 1k dmg

 



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