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hjorte #1 Posted 09 June 2020 - 07:11 PM

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Two light tanks on the same team, both tier IX, in the same battle. Who do you think got the most experience and why?

 

 



gunslingerXXX #2 Posted 09 June 2020 - 07:15 PM

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The same?

Private_Miros #3 Posted 09 June 2020 - 07:17 PM

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The Ru, closer combat, more spotted, further distance travelled.

 

I don't think xp counts initial spots as much, and it shares long distance damage.

 

 

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I've got one too, both wins, both Leopard I: which one most xp:

 

 


Edited by Private_Miros, 09 June 2020 - 07:19 PM.


Kdingo #4 Posted 09 June 2020 - 07:20 PM

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To be fair, they should get rid of initial spots all together. The only viable spots are those that lead to assistance, at least imo.

hjorte #5 Posted 09 June 2020 - 07:25 PM

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View PostPrivate_Miros, on 09 June 2020 - 07:17 PM, said:

I've got one too, both wins, both Leopard I: which one most xp:

 

 

If it's not the same battle, it doesn't make sense to me to try compare it.



Private_Miros #6 Posted 09 June 2020 - 07:26 PM

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View Posthjorte, on 09 June 2020 - 06:25 PM, said:

 

If it's not the same battle, it doesn't make sense to me to try compare it.


 Why so?



NUKLEAR_SLUG #7 Posted 09 June 2020 - 07:30 PM

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I'll just guess its whatever one OP wasn't driving hence the source of the salt. 

baratoz1701 #8 Posted 09 June 2020 - 07:32 PM

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Well  i guess the t-54 lt cuz he got 10 spots

gunslingerXXX #9 Posted 09 June 2020 - 07:35 PM

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View PostKdingo, on 09 June 2020 - 07:20 PM, said:

To be fair, they should get rid of initial spots all together. The only viable spots are those that lead to assistance, at least imo.

Early intel how many tanks go to a certain side is important imo. Provides the team with some knowledge how agressive they can play. Not that the team often uses that info....



Kdingo #10 Posted 09 June 2020 - 08:03 PM

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View PostgunslingerXXX, on 09 June 2020 - 07:35 PM, said:

Early intel how many tanks go to a certain side is important imo. Provides the team with some knowledge how agressive they can play. Not that the team often uses that info....

....and the wrom wrom suicide scout dies a second later anyways.

 

Not arguing that it isn't useful, but the initial spots just encourage people to get themselves killed for a "cheap" reward.



Balc0ra #11 Posted 09 June 2020 - 08:38 PM

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As first spots give only a small bonus to make a massive impact, and both got more or less the same assists to make that impact noticed medals aside. You're going on the damage done aspect instead. Not by how much, but by how.

 

As one did 2x the damage vs the other. But the other covered more ground and did less at 300m +. Indicating he had a bigger chance to do more or all of it on his own spotting. That and if the high damage one only did it vs tier 9's, and the low damage one went for tier Xs' more. That's one bonus gained and one bonus he might not have lost vs the T-54. So the chance of them having the same or close to the same XP is not farfetched if that was the case.

 

 

 



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View Postbaratoz1701, on 09 June 2020 - 07:32 PM, said:

Well  i guess the t-54 lt cuz he got 10 spots

That plus it is Rasha tonk.



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View PostNUKLEAR_SLUG, on 09 June 2020 - 06:30 PM, said:

I'll just guess its whatever one OP wasn't driving hence the source of the salt. 

 

For sure that must have been the RU, as OP will most likely argue the medals are proof that he was the better scout.

 

Won't watch the replay to clear that out but for all I care, one of the scouts spotted and shot tier 10s while the other did the same to tier 8s.


Edited by Spurtung, 09 June 2020 - 11:35 PM.


hjorte #14 Posted 10 June 2020 - 10:16 AM

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Thanks, guys. The RU got the most by a small margin (as you can see in the link in the OP). I'm just trying to get a better understanding of the calculations going on behind the scenes. I'm not here with a salty agenda, as some of you think. I thought that damage dealt was a dominant factor in the calculation (even for a LT), but several examples shows it isn't.

Indy_Bones #15 Posted 10 June 2020 - 10:18 AM

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Having watched the replay, The RU absolutely deserved the XP more. After your initial 2 minute stint in the worlds most obvious bush on Mali, instead of helping spot the guys on the left flank, you instead went and parked right next to the RU - WHY? You had the whole map to work with, but no, you have to try to take the spotting from the guy who's already in the more advanced position and split it between you, this was bad play and flat out selfish.

 

You were then joined in the same spot by the T49 as well, so all 3 of the teams lights in a 10m area together - truly awful team play.

 

Most of the things you shot were spotted by other players thus halving your XP from that damage, whereas the RU was much more proactive in spotting his own targets and had to move up twice further because you decided you wanted to compete for the same positions!

 

Also, if you don't know where to aim on a Tortoise after 20k games and instead rely on your aiming reticle to tell you, there are far bigger issues here than why you got less XP than the RU did...



hjorte #16 Posted 10 June 2020 - 10:27 AM

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@Indy, I agree on some of your points but others you constructed to be insulting.

Indy_Bones #17 Posted 10 June 2020 - 10:48 AM

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I'm sorry you feel that way, but I called it how I saw it.

 

Your initial spot position is fine (if obvious, which is why you took 2 blindshots there), but after that there are issues.

 

Again, why did you park next to the RU? There were multiple positions you could taken that would have helped the team more rather than trying to compete with the RU for the same bush, and the T49 just compounded the issue.

 

You didn't seem to know where to aim on the Tortoise, constantly scanning his front looking for the aim circle to turn yellow or green, when the ONLY chance you had at that range would have been the cupola (and even then it's unlikely).

 

So which part of that do you think is insulting or incorrect?



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View Posthjorte, on 10 June 2020 - 10:27 AM, said:

@Indy, I agree on some of your points but others you constructed to be insulting.

 

If you went and parked next to a concealed forward scout, risking drawing attention to his position and getting him killed then you deserve a bit of insulting. When someone has already taken a forward position you stay the hell away from them and go work some other part of the map. 



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View Posthjorte, on 10 June 2020 - 09:27 AM, said:

@Indy, I agree on some of your points but others you constructed to be insulting.

 

Just because your ego got bruised over being pointed out facts that doesn't make matters insulting in the slightest.


Edited by Spurtung, 10 June 2020 - 03:04 PM.


eldrak #20 Posted 10 June 2020 - 04:00 PM

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First spots are only worth a noticeable amount of xp if the spotted target is arty.




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