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What do I invest my bonds in? (121B vs M60)


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Doug_DeMuro #1 Posted 16 June 2020 - 12:00 AM

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Heyo,

 

Initial disclaimer:

-'keep the bonds!!' maybe, but I'm interested in both tanks on offer as I've never been active in any kind of competitive clan stuff.

-both terrible: that's not what I'm asking, the good old 'gun to ya head scenario'.

-I will believe you more if you own and have played a fair amount of games in whatever tank you're discussing.

 

With that said: I'm nearing the 15k bonds that will grant you either of the tier X 'CW' mediums on offer in the bond shop, the 121B and the M60 Patton. I'm a med player and I'm very interested in either tank. The rep on the tanks is quite bad though, but lately I'm used to tanks that seem to be mediocre that I still like (I absolutely adore the Excalibur for reasons I do not understand).

 

Some pros for tanks I see myself:

121B:

-every tank with the L7 gun is nice imo

-looks like my T-34-3 and I adore my T-34-3

-seems to be more enjoyable than the actual 121

-nice experiences with most of the Chinese tanks (in particular the WZ-131, WZ-132A and WZ-111 1-4)

M60:

-every tank with the L7 gun or variant thereof is nice imo

-I liked the M48 Patton and loved the M46 Patton

-might encourage me to buy back said M46

-nostalgic values (one of my first tier 9 experiences was encountering an M60 and some dudes in TS said 'WOW THAT'S RARE AS BALLS' (and this is a crapexcuse but still :D ) )

 

Some cons: 121B seems to have the worst rep, I find low gun depression quite awkward (but manageable in certain situations), M60 seems to have a tumor cupola and my WR in the M48 was bad for some reason, so that might transfer over perfectly to the M60.

 

Please keep the discussion about experiences and gameplay and not about whether or not I should do it. I feel like it's time for me to buy one of the two. 



FizzleMcSnizzle #2 Posted 16 June 2020 - 01:09 AM

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At the risk of disregarding everything you have said... I would wait and see if something better comes along. I have not played either, but if there are tanks in the tech tree that are felt by the masses to be better in that particular role, what's the point in getting either?

Hyina #3 Posted 16 June 2020 - 01:53 AM

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Wrote a v brief review here after I marked the 121B. (Reading back maybe I was a bit harsh on it I guess, 7.5/10 for me.)

 

I've never played American mediums so can't comment on the M60 sorry, have seen/heard the god-like gun soft stats though.

 

 

 

 


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saxsan4 #4 Posted 16 June 2020 - 03:33 AM

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SAVE YOUR BONDS

 

WG will soon refresh tanks so you can get better ones, these two are not worth the bonds



Tigerfish_Torpedo #5 Posted 16 June 2020 - 08:40 AM

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But here's the question, Saxsan. What are WG likely to replace them with?

 

Let us assume that the T95/4201 and Obj 907 won't appear on that list. What else is missing that they can place in the bond store? I mean, can you think of anything worthy at tier X? 



demon_tank #6 Posted 16 June 2020 - 09:09 AM

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Both 121B and M60 are decent tanks. 420 meters viewrange & 350mm gold penetration make them good.

 

Which will be better for you depends on you. You have to play them both. Maybe test them in a TEST SERVER.

Which tank crew you want to train the most ? Patton or 121 ?

 

M60 seems to have the edge right now.

 

You can always watch reviews in YouTube maybe thy will help.



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Both tanks do have their 'quirks and features' ;)

Geno1isme #8 Posted 16 June 2020 - 09:40 AM

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Don't compare those tanks with the techtree counterparts of their nation, they're not really alike other than the visual model. M60 is more like a pre-buff Leo 1, a mostly unarmored but quite mobile glasscannon. 121B is more like a slightly worse Cent AX with just half the gun-depression.

View PostDoug_DeMuro, on 16 June 2020 - 01:00 AM, said:

Some cons: 121B seems to have the worst rep, I find low gun depression quite awkward (but manageable in certain situations), M60 seems to have a tumor cupola and my WR in the M48 was bad for some reason, so that might transfer over perfectly to the M60.

121B doesn't just suffer from gun-depression, but also mediocre gun-handling, mobility and unreliable armor (turret front can be penned by standard ammo in several spots, hull is mostly paper). It does have a nice combo of good camo and excellent viewrange, but that's really not enough to compensate for the drawbacks overall.

Don't worry about the cupola on the M60, the whole turret doesn't have much armor anyway. As said before, while it may look similar to the M48 it plays more like a (pre-buff) Leo 1: Good gun, good moblity, but no armor at all and a pretty big target as well. So you really have to pick your fights carefully.



Tilly042 #9 Posted 16 June 2020 - 09:59 AM

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I'm 200 bonds off one or the other and like you OP, I'm really not sure which.  I'm leaning towards the 121B just because...........erm, I don't know!

saxsan4 #10 Posted 16 June 2020 - 10:01 AM

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View PostTigerfish_Torpedo, on 16 June 2020 - 07:40 AM, said:

But here's the question, Saxsan. What are WG likely to replace them with?

 

Let us assume that the T95/4201 and Obj 907 won't appear on that list. What else is missing that they can place in the bond store? I mean, can you think of anything worthy at tier X? 


Tier 8 Chieftain Britsh tank



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View PostTigerfish_Torpedo, on 16 June 2020 - 08:40 AM, said:

But here's the question, Saxsan. What are WG likely to replace them with?

 

Let us assume that the T95/4201 and Obj 907 won't appear on that list. What else is missing that they can place in the bond store? I mean, can you think of anything worthy at tier X? 

 

WTF 100. given the powercreep and stupid tanks like 279, chieftain it ain't that broken anymore as it used to be, while off course still being broken beyond believe.



mpf1959 #12 Posted 16 June 2020 - 12:57 PM

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Gold, then send said gold to me for safe keeping.

antwerp_fighter #13 Posted 16 June 2020 - 01:48 PM

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I have both, played few battles

 

Both are decent tanks, personally, I prefer 121B a little bit.

The reason is very simple: decent camo and view range.

 

The problem of M60 is its horrible camo in tier 10... I got 6 skill crews in it, but it constantly spotted at early stage of game...

of course M60`s gun is much better than 121B, but you cannot make reliable damages if always spotted...



HONEYTIGER #14 Posted 19 June 2020 - 12:10 PM

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WHEN ARE THEY UPDATING THE BOND SHOP WITH NEW TANKS ??????????????



Private_Miros #15 Posted 19 June 2020 - 12:13 PM

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View PostHONEYTIGER, on 19 June 2020 - 11:10 AM, said:

WHEN ARE THEY UPDATING THE BOND SHOP WITH NEW TANKS ??????????????

 

One month later than planned for every letter posted with the caps lock key on (and 7 days later per string of !!!!!! or ?????).



mpf1959 #16 Posted 19 June 2020 - 12:19 PM

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View PostPrivate_Miros, on 19 June 2020 - 12:13 PM, said:

 

One month later than planned for every letter posted with the caps lock key on (and 7 days later per string of !!!!!! or ?????).

 

REALLY?????????? DAMN!!!!!!! 



StinkyStonky #17 Posted 19 June 2020 - 01:08 PM

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 With the launch of Ranked Battles 2020-2021, we'll update the list of items available for bonds in the in-game shop. We have lots of valuable and useful rewards in store for you, so stay tuned!

 

https://worldoftanks.eu/en/news/general-news/ranked-battles-2021-preview/

 

Ranked is likely to be shortly after the Clan Wars Campaign so mid July.



Hayton #18 Posted 19 June 2020 - 01:33 PM

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My advice is don't listen to anyone's advice just get the tank you think you will like the most ,as for every person who tells you a tank is great, there will be someone who tells you it's cr@p and you will just go round in circles. Ignore it all and get what you want.

 

As for the idea that you should save your bonds for the new tanks, I don't understand why anyone would think that WoT are going to put better tanks in the bond shop, as the reality is just going to be more outdated redundant tanks. Hopefully though, they won't remove the tanks that are there now, but will just add the new tanks, so people have more choice. Who knows though.



saxsan4 #19 Posted 24 June 2020 - 07:47 PM

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View PostTilly042, on 16 June 2020 - 08:59 AM, said:

I'm 200 bonds off one or the other and like you OP, I'm really not sure which.  I'm leaning towards the 121B just because...........erm, I don't know!


New bond shop tanks next month so wait ;)



Doug_DeMuro #20 Posted 29 June 2020 - 02:16 PM

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View PostHayton, on 19 June 2020 - 01:33 PM, said:

My advice is don't listen to anyone's advice just get the tank you think you will like the most ,as for every person who tells you a tank is great, there will be someone who tells you it's cr@p and you will just go round in circles. Ignore it all and get what you want.

 

As for the idea that you should save your bonds for the new tanks, I don't understand why anyone would think that WoT are going to put better tanks in the bond shop, as the reality is just going to be more outdated redundant tanks. Hopefully though, they won't remove the tanks that are there now, but will just add the new tanks, so people have more choice. Who knows though.

 

I'm afraid they will remove the 121B and M60, which are both meds and suit my playstyle. If they swap them around for let's say the FV215b (already own that), T95E6 (I hear bad, bad stories about that one) VK 72.01 K (doesn't seem like my kind of tank) or Foch 155 (meh) it's going to be annoying, and I can already feel the backlash for when they add the T95/FV4201 or Obj. 907. 






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