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Listy #1 Posted 07 January 2012 - 03:04 PM

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I've been looking at the AMX-13 and thinking of getting one. Just because of that cool turret thing, and its a post war vehicle. Plus the idea of 6Rnd ready ammo appeals.
I'm good enough to play Tier VI and VII and make money (which I suppose is average). I've also got a huge stable of tanks to support this tier. I already have tons of lights, such as the M24. And I was looking for a Tank to take while my mates play with their tier 7 heavies.

And so we come to the AMX-13/75. But there's one thing I don't know before a major re-jigging of my Garage.
Is it Fun? Do you get screwed by tanks you can't hurt. constantly due to the matchmaker (Sort of like the Jagdpanzer IV)?

Exard3k #2 Posted 07 January 2012 - 03:06 PM

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If you like the AMX 12, then you'll love the AMX 13/75.

Matchmaking is still flawed for light tanks >Tier4, but with AMX 13 it isn't that bad anymore if you get used to it.
Most matches are Tier9, some tier8 and rarely tier7 or  tier 10

Listy #3 Posted 07 January 2012 - 03:53 PM

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I've managed to get to the FT-17, that's about as far as I was planning to go. Maybe Free EXP to the AMX-13 if its worth it. Hence this thread. So The comparison between the AMX-12 and the 13 doesn't mean much to me.

Exard3k #4 Posted 07 January 2012 - 04:23 PM

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Its like a M5 Stuart with automatic gun (6-rounds @ 1sec reload, then 15sec reload). Matchmaking is like a scout...basically tier 7-10.
Its like a very small, very fast glass cannon. I call my AMX the "Backdoor Bandit"  :lol:

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View PostExard3k, on 07 January 2012 - 04:23 PM, said:

Its like a M5 Stuart with automatic gun (6-rounds @ 1sec reload, then 15sec reload). Matchmaking is like a scout...basically tier 7-10.
Its like a very small, very fast glass cannon. I call my AMX the "Backdoor Bandit"  :lol:

You mean its like a good version of the Stuart?

Exard3k #6 Posted 07 January 2012 - 04:59 PM

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speed an maneuverability (?) is like the T5....AMX 13/75 has 680 hp so you aren't oneshots anymore like with AMX 12. But flanking T8-9 heavies and emptying your 6 rounds in their rear armor then gtfo really kicks ass and is very funny actually...very special kind of play.

While TDs are the hidden snipers, french lights (tier5-7) are the ninjas.

If you're looking for something new, AMX 12 / AMX 13 is surely an option.

Listy #7 Posted 07 January 2012 - 05:08 PM

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Can you use it as a TD? High Camo, and long range shooting, as well as the knife fighting?

MordecaiISC #8 Posted 07 January 2012 - 05:16 PM

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It's gun is quite accurate, and tank itself is fast and agile - still it can't beat E8 in that regard. As for brawling thing - well, it may be possible, but since AMX13 dont have vert stab it could be quite difficult.

It does have decent visibility. Can't say much about camo. Im running around with vents + binocs + cammo, but still I usually end up in medium distances.

Exard3k #9 Posted 07 January 2012 - 05:20 PM

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good camo as far as i noticed...the gun also has 0,31 accuracy, view range is 440m, so good long range capabilities. You'll face lots of tier 8 or 9 stuff (matchmaking is like a Tier7 TD), so 144pen is a bit low to make it a td.

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Thanks all. Its given me something to think about.

Eyebot #11 Posted 07 January 2012 - 05:42 PM

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it's generating money as any other tier 6 tank - while it is a light tank, you can only partially compare it to the tier 5 lights of the other nations.

when looking at the performance of these tanks the AMX 13 75 is quite a bit below the M24/T-50-2/VK28 ... but also a lot above tier 4 light tanks - somewhere in the middle between those two groups.

the AMX 13 90 on the other hand is a bit better in performance as the other tier 5 lights - it got excellent speed, decent enough agility, an excellent gun and a tiny silhouette. in other words - it's a tier 5 light on steroids. this gets reflected in the MM as it has the same battle spread as tier 9 heavies/TDs.

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i like the amx 13 75 very much and it is one of the most fun tanks i've played in a while. the gun is good enough to be useful against enemies up to tier 8 or 9, of course only if you shoot at their sides or back, but that's what your supposed to do anyway.
it's a light tank according to the description, but in my opinion it is more of a small medium tank. i think it's a waste to play it as a mere scout, because of the decent gun and the revolver magazine you can actually do good damage, if you know when to attack and when to stay back. best tactic is to stay in second line or behind some heavies and wait till a gap in the enemies defences open up or till one enemy is seperated. then you can go for it's flanks or rear, while he is busy fighting the other tanks of your team, or make a run for the arty.

like already mentioned in this thread, the matchmaking treats it as a scout, so tier9 battles are the most common. but you still get into tier 7 battles regularly, were you can really shine.

i liked the amx 13 90 even better on the test server, but the amx 13 75 is also really effective and a lot of fun, IF you can adapt to the playstyle it requires. it has a lot of potential, but if you make a mistake, you are dead faster than you can blink, so unlike certain other tanks, you have to use your brain when you play. :)



View PostListy, on 07 January 2012 - 05:08 PM, said:

Can you use it as a TD? High Camo, and long range shooting, as well as the knife fighting?

possible, but imho not very effective, unless you are in a tier 7 battle. the gun is very precise and the camo is very good, but you lack the penetration to damage most enemies frontally and also you only have 36 shots, and because of the high ROF you will burn through them very quickly.

F22raptor2006 #13 Posted 08 January 2012 - 01:27 AM

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Simply to say the AMX 13 75 is a mile better than the AMX12t, it doesn't seem like much difference but for one or another reason it plays out much differently. I've had 2 top guns in under 50 battles and also 1,500 highest exp with no premium. Not a double.

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View PostF22raptor2006, on 08 January 2012 - 01:27 AM, said:

Simply to say the AMX 13 75 is a mile better than the AMX12t, it doesn't seem like much difference but for one or another reason it plays out much differently. I've had 2 top guns in under 50 battles and also 1,500 highest exp with no premium. Not a double.
I imagine the 12t/13 75 handles similarly to the Chaffee? I havent used the latter myself (love the 13/75 though) so could anyone confirm/deny this?

LeeTErik #15 Posted 08 January 2012 - 09:58 AM

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Victory!
Battle: Steppes 2012. január 7. 18:19:37
Vehicle: AMX 13 75
Experience received: 2 640
Credits received: 61 138
Battle Achievements: Top Gun, Boelter's Medal, Sniper

This was my best so far, with 88% crew, and only vent, bino, camo net.

And yes its good, but you must act fast, coz you have no armor, and the gun can dmg enemy tanks only in side/rear. (you will meet tier7-10 tanks in almost all battles) The good thing is, that you can get a lot of xp, coz you are a light, you have high pen, and if you shoot your 6 shots into a tier 7-8-9 tank side/rear you get at least 7-800xp even in a lost match (ofc if they do dmg). If you see a french/american/german tier 9 heavy with 500hp alone, you can rush him and simply kill him before he can kill you. This thing can be very good, and very bad, good if you find the place where you can hit the enemy without spotted/shooted, but it can be very bad if you must fight against more then one tank, so i think its a balanced tank, in some situations you are overpowered as hell, but you can be useless too.

Makikou #16 Posted 08 January 2012 - 10:24 AM

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Most of battles you will be placed in max. t7-8 battles.

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View PostHeinkle, on 08 January 2012 - 03:09 AM, said:

I imagine the 12t/13 75 handles similarly to the Chaffee? I havent used the latter myself (love the 13/75 though) so could anyone confirm/deny this?

Umm both aren't quite as nimble as the chaffee at low speeds but at high speeds they're quite similar. The 12t is a bit sluggish it's not like other tier 5 lights of other nations. The 13 75 is a bit more like it and resembles the chaffee I guess in some ways but I prefer playing the 13 75 more so than the chaffee. You can do more with it and like take out type 59s etc which isn't something I'd ever get the chance to do in a chaffee. For the point of killing and getting exp apart from just spotting it can do both. They also do actually bounce every now and then even though armour is none.

Sotahullu #18 Posted 08 January 2012 - 11:52 AM

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18 000 exp to go :P

Well in my opinion, AMX-13/75 top gun is nothing to sniff at really, most tanks doesn't have 145mm armor on it's rear or even on it's sides (well maybe expect Maus) so this tank can go on little rampage on it's own. ;)

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http://forum.worldof...y/#entry1277540

Watch these replays of the AMX 13 75. It's just an amazing little tank for me  :Smile_honoring:

Heinkle #20 Posted 08 January 2012 - 01:03 PM

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Am I right in thinking that the 13 90 is the same chassis and turret as the 13 75 but with a 90mm gun, faster engine and even greater traverse speeds?




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