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LZ_Mordan #1 Posted 18 June 2020 - 05:33 PM

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this thing is even more annoyingly OP than the Tier 10 EBR..

 

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Inb4 people use 'lt432' as argument.

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View PostLZ_Mordan, on 18 June 2020 - 05:33 PM, said:

this thing is even more annoyingly OP than the Tier 10 EBR..

 

change my mind


Do 10 km/s make that much of a difference?

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View Postfwhaatpiraat, on 18 June 2020 - 05:36 PM, said:

Inb4 people use 'lt432' as argument.


More like the HWK 30...



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View PostLZ_Mordan, on 18 June 2020 - 05:33 PM, said:

this thing is even more annoyingly OP than the Tier 10 EBR..

 

change my mind

 

I can't. They do this all the time. 



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View PostLZ_Mordan, on 18 June 2020 - 05:33 PM, said:

this thing is even more annoyingly OP than the Tier 10 EBR..

 

change my mind

 

Solid apcr, dpm on paar with meds, no aim time and weeeeee clown car speed. 

Seems balanced.



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*sigh*

 

You know what we do with wheelie threads right? Right? Eh, I'll give it a few while I'm still waking up before I close it.

 

Regarding the actual topic, all I can really say is the EBR 75 Probably is more annoying tier-for-tier because guns aren't as accurate, viewrange is lower and whatnot, so even though the EBR 75 Has worse viewrange as well it's harder to spot and hit him. Then you have the Lynx in the same tier which is a significantly less annoying little pest. Still, I'd rather face the EBR 75 Than the 105, regardless of what I'm in.



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View PostDesyatnik_Pansy, on 18 June 2020 - 04:45 PM, said:

*sigh*

 

You know what we do with wheelie threads right? Right? Eh, I'll give it a few while I'm still waking up before I close it.

 

Regarding the actual topic, all I can really say is the EBR 75 Probably is more annoying tier-for-tier because guns aren't as accurate, viewrange is lower and whatnot, so even though the EBR 75 Has worse viewrange as well it's harder to spot and hit him. Then you have the Lynx in the same tier which is a significantly less annoying little pest. Still, I'd rather face the EBR 75 Than the 105, regardless of what I'm in.

 

EBR 75 is much worse

 

Why?

 

Because everyone plays it. It earns money.

 

EBR Tier 10 is hard to get, cost 6 millions credits, you need premium account to earn money.. Its a tier 10

 

EBR 75 is seen by Tier 6 tanks.

 

EBR 75 is hands game annoying... on the level of Leffe arty.

 

I have played 5 Tier 8.. Not a single game without 1,2, Or 3 EBR 75s!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

I don't mind the EBR 105 really. I play Tier 10 games and its very rare to see it in lower tiers. If you don't want to see the EBR 105. don't play Tier 10.

 

While the EBR 75 is everywhere



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View PostLZ_Mordan, on 18 June 2020 - 05:52 PM, said:

EBR 75 is much worse

 

Why?

 

Because everyone plays it. It earns money.

 

EBR Tier 10 is hard to get, cost 6 millions credits, you need premium account to earn money.. Its a tier 10

 

I disagree with this slightly. Yes it makes money compared to the EBR 105, by nature of being Tier VIII Premium vs. Tier X Tech tree. Still, most players I'd like to imagine in Xs (such as the EBR 105) probably already have a bank of credits behind them that they can slowly burn through to play their Xs with no issues, and they can just go and play some lower tiers to make it back (such as the EBR 75). I don't think it really affects how annoying the two are.

 

View PostLZ_Mordan, on 18 June 2020 - 05:52 PM, said:

EBR 75 is seen by Tier 6 tanks.

 

That's.. what I was getting at, in reference to there being tanks with less viewrange and less accurate guns to face the EBR 75 Compared to the EBR 105. 

 

View PostLZ_Mordan, on 18 June 2020 - 05:52 PM, said:

EBR 75 is hands game annoying... on the level of Leffe arty.

 

I disagree, the leFH Arty is far more annoying. The EBR Is a pest, but wheeled vehicles and arty are two completely different hot topics.

 

View PostLZ_Mordan, on 18 June 2020 - 05:52 PM, said:

I have played 5 Tier 8.. Not a single game without 1,2, Or 3 EBR 75s!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

I don't mind the EBR 105 really. I play Tier 10 games and its very rare to see it in lower tiers. If you don't want to see the EBR 105. don't play Tier 10.

 

While the EBR 75 is everywhere

 

I dunno, I played 36 Battles yesterday at Tier VIII, grinding marks on the Pz. 58 And dabbling in the ISU-152K While I was waiting for the 58 To come out of a battle. I definitely had plenty of games without EBR 75s in them, as well as games where they were everywhere. I also saw a few EBR 105s, despite only getting a few Tier X Games. The EBR 75 Is going to be more common because it's a Tier VIII Premium and many probably got it for FL, which ended a bit ago, so now they're using it in randoms. The EBR 105 Meanwhile is the top of a tech tree, and not everyone might think it's worthwhile to actually grind all the way up there if they can just play the 75 In their garage.



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View Postfwhaatpiraat, on 18 June 2020 - 05:36 PM, said:

Inb4 people use 'lt432' as argument.

I think Tajj is busy on another thread.  :hiding:



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View PostCmdRatScabies, on 18 June 2020 - 06:08 PM, said:

I think Tajj is busy on another thread.  :hiding:

 

So you're saying I should close it before he gets here. :hiding:



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View PostDesyatnik_Pansy, on 18 June 2020 - 06:10 PM, said:

 

So you're saying I should close it before he gets here. :hiding:

WG have him on retainer.  I heard he gets £1 for every EBR sold so he's keen to protect his interest.  :hiding:

 

Best go now before he sees the thread.



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nothing more annoying than a LeFH as for wheelie bins a 15 man green team can wreck them if the team  calls the shots as a team

LZ_Mordan #13 Posted 18 June 2020 - 06:22 PM

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View PostDesyatnik_Pansy, on 18 June 2020 - 04:59 PM, said:

 

 

That's.. what I was getting at, in reference to there being tanks with less viewrange and less accurate guns to face the EBR 75 Compared to the EBR 105. 

 

 

I disagree, the leFH Arty is far more annoying. The EBR Is a pest, but wheeled vehicles and arty are two completely different hot topics.

 

 

The Leffe is one main reason why I completely stopped playing Tier 5 except for grinds. 

 

And today my experience with EBR 75s is on par with that awful feeling I used to get with Tier 5 games.

 

This game will continue to bleed players if its not fun. And while they can nerf EBR 105.. They can't nerf EBR 75 which they sold for real money. LT 432 is another pest from another planet.

 

I play Tier 10 a lot and I never rage against EBR 105. I have it in my garage, while being good, its not that OP. Handling is horrible and has been ninja nerfed already.

 

 



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View Postwsatnutter, on 18 June 2020 - 06:20 PM, said:

nothing more annoying than a LeFH as for wheelie bins a 15 man green team can wreck them if the team  calls the shots as a team

 

Some people already struggle hitting a stationary target, more struggle to hit a slow moving target.... i already watched a team shooting a wheelchair for like 2 mins straight and only hitting it once, and i bet there are even worse situations observed.



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No argument or reason provided. Ok, so I personally think that the E100 is OP. :)

But jokes aside, I do not even rate the EBR 75 is as good as people say it is. Sure, it is stronger than some lights, like the LHMTV :trollface:, or the BC 12T. But the LT-432 is just a better LT in my opinion. When I am in my LT-432, I am never afraid of wheeled lights, I just drive straight at them, chase them down with my HE rounds. Cause I can penetrate him with HE, and he can't penetrate my front with HE. I literally just chase them down. 

And that is also the case when I am driving my Lynx. A LT-432 can just chase me down with HE if he catches me say getting in a bush. 

 

 



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View PostLZ_Mordan, on 18 June 2020 - 06:22 PM, said:

The Leffe is one main reason why I completely stopped playing Tier 5 except for grinds. 

 

And today my experience with EBR 75s is on par with that awful feeling I used to get with Tier 5 games.

 

leFH Is bad but I think general gameplay at that tier is what put me off of it. While both make the game unenjoyable for you, I do think the two are completely separate problems.

 

View PostLZ_Mordan, on 18 June 2020 - 06:22 PM, said:

This game will continue to bleed players if its not fun. And while they can nerf EBR 105.. They can't nerf EBR 75 which they sold for real money. LT 432 is another pest from another planet.

 

I play Tier 10 a lot and I never rage against EBR 105. I have it in my garage, while being good, its not that OP. Handling is horrible and has been ninja nerfed already.

 

I'm not aware of any ninja nerfs to the tank. The 105 Literally has better handling than the EBR 75 (they have the same aimtime, accuracy and the EBR 105 Has better bloom stats), I just think it's again a case of different environment; tanks have more accurate guns and viewrange. 

 

 

Either way, I was waiting for another response so I can finally put it to rest (I'd feel bad closing it while you were still typing up another post). I hope you understand that as always with these threads it will simply end up being the same back-and-forth discussion, so we have a pinned thread for that (see below). Thread junked.

http://forum.worldoftanks.eu/index.php?/topic/732037-the-big-wv-wheeled-vehicles-discussion-thread/






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