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o_Okyo #1 Posted 18 June 2020 - 08:53 PM

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I heard that there will be an E100 line buff... how much years it will take to be implemented in the live servers?

 

The iteration that some people from the WG talk about, in the case of e100 line at least, it's not necessary!

 

You run iterations(process applied the result of another process) to gather precise results when... it's obvious that this line STINKS(if not the entire tech tree)! 

It's already known by us and mentioned by some YouTube content creators in WoT category that this line among other needs buffs.

 

So... why still run your so-called super test, iteration before buffing a line, and more precisely, correct some "anomalies" on some tanks that, even buffed, will not be meta(for some reasons)?

Maybe... to find out if the buffs on german tanks will "slap" USSR tanks?! Who knows?

 

And once again I ask myself and the representants of this game when... will be implemented those buffs needed on tanks such as E100, Tiger II, and others?



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View Posto_Okyo, on 18 June 2020 - 07:53 PM, said:

I heard that there will be an E100 line buff... how much years it will take to be implemented in the live servers?

...
 

And once again I ask myself and the representants of this game when... will be implemented those buffs needed on tanks such as E100, Tiger II, and others?

 

Okay, who's gonna tell him?



splash_time #3 Posted 18 June 2020 - 09:26 PM

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Soon™.

tajj7 #4 Posted 18 June 2020 - 09:29 PM

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I played E100 today, and the E100 itself IMO is really not the problem, it's the 3 arty every other game and games over in like 3-4 minutes, it's too slow and big to avoid the arty, and you have a long reload with no the best gun handling so often you only get to fire 2-3 times before most of your team is dead and you get swarmed. 

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Testing is not done overnight. We all know how well it works when you just add it and don't test it "Maus buffs".

 

Buffs like this take about 6 months from super to test if it goes smooth regardless. I suspect they won't appear until late this year either way along with the US line etc. Or even the 430U and Progetto nerfs they are also testing.



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View Posttajj7, on 18 June 2020 - 09:29 PM, said:

I played E100 today, and the E100 itself IMO is really not the problem, it's the 3 arty every other game and games over in like 3-4 minutes, it's too slow and big to avoid the arty, and you have a long reload with no the best gun handling so often you only get to fire 2-3 times before most of your team is dead and you get swarmed. 


or in other words its out of meta, as the rest of the heavy tanks that are slow.



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View Posttajj7, on 18 June 2020 - 11:29 PM, said:

I played E100 today, and the E100 itself IMO is really not the problem, it's the 3 arty every other game and games over in like 3-4 minutes, it's too slow and big to avoid the arty, and you have a long reload with no the best gun handling so often you only get to fire 2-3 times before most of your team is dead and you get swarmed. 

 

Slow + big = arty breakfast.

The problem with E100 is it's aim time and it's inaccurate gun. Because it's slow to catch up with others, and inaccurate to snipe from far. So, WG should work on it's power to wight and the power engine plus the gun handling to make it work if the armour isn't a possible/reliable option. 



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Is4 and e5 are waiting as well, only time will tell when they all get buffed.

Jin91 #9 Posted 19 June 2020 - 01:52 AM

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View PostKdingo, on 18 June 2020 - 11:14 PM, said:

Is4 and e5 are waiting as well, only time will tell when they all get buffed.

Or all are cancelled except the IS4 buffs :3



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View PostJin91, on 19 June 2020 - 01:52 AM, said:

Or all are cancelled except the IS4 buffs :3

 

Da, comrade.



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its fine as it is

moenie #12 Posted 19 June 2020 - 02:06 AM

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Buffing the E5? they nerfed it for a reason lol.. don't tell me they are going to do a u-turn.. (-_-)

Eagerly waiting for E100 buffs myself, painful to play atm.

IS4 has been waiting just the same so do hope that gets some love, but not too much love (I know how much WG love buffing Russian tanks).


Edited by moenie, 19 June 2020 - 02:08 AM.


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View Postsplash_time, on 18 June 2020 - 09:44 PM, said:

 

Slow + big = arty breakfast.

The problem with E100 is it's aim time and it's inaccurate gun. Because it's slow to catch up with others, and inaccurate to snipe from far. So, WG should work on it's power to wight and the power engine plus the gun handling to make it work if the armour isn't a possible/reliable option. 

 

It could also use a buff to its ap ammo, i mean 235 is do able but severely powercreeped. 245 would be nice.



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View PostKdingo, on 19 June 2020 - 01:29 AM, said:

 

It could also use a buff to its ap ammo, i mean 235 is do able but severely powercreeped. 245 would be nice.


should be 257, same as type 4



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View PostBalc0ra, on 18 June 2020 - 08:34 PM, said:

Testing is not done overnight. We all know how well it works when you just add it and don't test it "Maus buffs".

 

Buffs like this take about 6 months from super to test if it goes smooth regardless. I suspect they won't appear until late this year either way along with the US line etc. Or even the 430U and Progetto nerfs they are also testing.

I hope it worth the time waiting!



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you dont even have it, so how would you know ? :D looking at your performance in E-75, you could use some buff as well.

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E-100 does not need a buff.

Other tanks need nerfs.



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View PostKdingo, on 19 June 2020 - 02:29 AM, said:

 

It could also use a buff to its ap ammo, i mean 235 is do able but severely powercreeped. 245 would be nice.

 

E100 15cm AP got buffed to 246mm some years ago.



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View PostThe_Naa, on 18 June 2020 - 08:36 PM, said:


or in other words its out of meta, as the rest of the heavy tanks that are slow.

 

It's out of the meta but loads of tanks are out of the meta, but as I said it's not really the characteristics of the tanks itself.

 

If you get a game with 1 arty and the teams don't fold in 4 minutes then it can be really effective, just because what it is, a great big lump of HP that people still need to aim carefully at to pen, that is chunking 750 alpha of you. It's really not hard in our corridor/city meta to set up good trading positions.  If someone is stubbornly hull down you can plonk some HE on them, of course a decent amount of HEAT is needed but half the time that is all that is coming back anyway so that doesn't bother me.

 

I had a game yesterday on Berlin where I just worked my way down the left side with the other heavies, trading well, spotting the people further at the back and then cleared out their base, where there was even a HEAT spamming 430U who I beat 1v1, because I angled, baited shots into my tracks and he only penned 2 out 5 HEAT shots, and I put him down with 3 shots.

 

It can be an effective tank, but if the game is like 3 minutes, you are either surrounded or lagging at the back. I had a game on highway, I had done two shots into a T110E3, and within 3 minutes (and bearing in mind we took like a minute to get into the city) the 5 heavies that were with me were all dead, and it was an even fight. The only meaningful damage done to the enemies in the city was my two shots into that E3, those other 5 guys did nothing and died in two minutes. I am then swarmed by like 5 tanks because I have no chance of getting away.

 

I might have just been unlucky as well, but I had a run of like 2 wins from about 12 games in it yesterday and about 5 games in a row that were 15-1 or 15-2 losses and none took longer than 4 minutes. 

 

There are so many terrible players now on tier 10 that teams just seem to have no ability at all and just collapse.  In a longer game without getting crapped on by arty all the time, I still found it really effective, but getting those games was the tough. 

 

View Postsplash_time, on 18 June 2020 - 08:44 PM, said:

 

Slow + big = arty breakfast.

The problem with E100 is it's aim time and it's inaccurate gun. Because it's slow to catch up with others, and inaccurate to snipe from far. So, WG should work on it's power to wight and the power engine plus the gun handling to make it work if the armour isn't a possible/reliable option. 

 

The gun handling for the alpha is really not that bad, but yeh I'd rather see QOL buffs than armour buffs.

 

Make it a bit more like the E75, which is a bit more mobile, a bit more agile and has a bit better gun for a super heavy. Like buff the turret traverse, tank traverse, power to weight a bit, maybe knock the aim time down a little, maybe another degrees of gun depression, little stuff like that. 

 



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I mean how can one justify E100 being remotely good in current meta is beyond me. Unless ofcourse you play versus tier 6 warrior in tier 10 with almost no understanding of top tier battles.

 

You are slow af

When you try to shoot at enemy very reliably you will get penned, because of no armor on the turret cheeks, but you may not pen or hit enemy unless you decide to spam HE.

 

Literally nothing going on in your favor for playing slow super heavy tanks. That includes Maus as well but at least Maus has smaller turret cheeks and can angle better. Type 5 has best gun handling imho if you decide to run smaller gun.

 

It is funny though that WR curve shows E100 is OP for 50%+ players.






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