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_Anarchistic_ #1 Posted 19 June 2020 - 11:42 AM

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so  reward/mission tanks are out of ranked to make the game more 'even' or balanced 

admission of guilt by WG? 

 

these tanks are too OP for all tier 10 ranked battles so clearly they need to be sorted for randoms so all games are more 'even' for the majority of players?

 


Edited by _Anarchistic_, 19 June 2020 - 11:43 AM.


xx984 #2 Posted 19 June 2020 - 12:49 PM

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Yes the 215b 183, m60, 121B, T95E6, 907 are totally op :trollface:
 

VK 72 Is very good but not OP

 

only op ones that should be blocked is chief and 279.



Slyspy #3 Posted 19 June 2020 - 12:58 PM

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Some might say that reward tanks should be just that, a reward which people will strive for. Shame that can cause balance problems. 

the_nebuchadnezzar #4 Posted 19 June 2020 - 01:09 PM

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I remember WG nerfed the FV 4005 some times ago. That means the TrashBarn was OP?! No. They want to nerf the Progetto 65. That means Progetto 65 is OP?! I don't consider it to be. They do it cause too many players complained about them. Same goes with the RB and the reward tanks. They are banning them cause too many platers asked for it. And I support this decision. It's the right one, but it's not an "admision of guilt" by any means...

KillingJoker #5 Posted 19 June 2020 - 01:22 PM

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Is this oficial or just a rumor?

 

I personally think the better solution would be to rebalance all the tier X tanks...

 

per example, i find unneceptable the 907 to have better armor and dpm than a regular techtree russian medium

 

this game should be balanced in someway, its ok if some tank have some extreme feature that makes it unique or better than others... but then it

should also have weakpoints and flaws... 

 

if there  was any sense in balancing stuff, the 907 would have worse dpm than techtree russian mediums, because it has better armor...

and not the oposite...

 

the same with other stupid techtree abominations like the 430u, if it has good armor, good mobility, the gun must be bad... and the dpm cannot be great

i think pretty much anyone can get the point... i see per example the E6 as a decently balanced,, you have poor armor, decent gun handling and great dpm

 

And then you have stupid stuff like the STB1 which now have good/decent gun handling, good turret armor, amazing dpm and good mobility

 

The balancing department of this game is STUPID, people who work there should be out of job for being BAD in what they do. 

 

when suddenly most of German tanks are in general slow, armor is ineffective in practice and the dpm is also mediocre. .

 

So ths thing of trying to not allow overpowered tanks in some competitive game mode is stupid, whats the point? will they lock this overpowered tanks for clan wars as well?

if so... then they are only meant to wreak in the most unfair way people in random battles is that it?

 

FFS WG,, balance your game, it doesn't take much, you don't need special IQ to do it... neither a very well paid employee, just someone who understand the game will do the job done. 



Balc0ra #6 Posted 19 June 2020 - 01:49 PM

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View Post_Anarchistic_, on 19 June 2020 - 11:42 AM, said:

so  reward/mission tanks are out of ranked to make the game more 'even' or balanced 

admission of guilt by WG?

 

Or just giving in to all the non-CW players, or non-279E owners complaining about it. I suspect they got sick of that before they would admit anyone of those tanks needs a nerf.



ZDN #7 Posted 19 June 2020 - 02:05 PM

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Now i dont play Ranked, good wg this is discrimination!

moenie #8 Posted 19 June 2020 - 02:07 PM

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T22 med.. that's funny because if I remember correctly, this tank was nerfed to the ground and is actually useless now.


Edited by moenie, 19 June 2020 - 04:44 PM.


aps1 #9 Posted 19 June 2020 - 02:14 PM

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Chieftains and 907s are not op in 1s 2s or 3s the problem comes in clan wars when tech tree clans have to fight full teams of them. When they hunt in packs they are devastating but on thier own or in platoons they are beatable.

 

edit 

Arty is the bigger problem.


Edited by aps1, 19 June 2020 - 02:16 PM.


TheJungleBeast #10 Posted 19 June 2020 - 02:40 PM

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Surely it would make more sense for them ONLY to be in ranked mode ?

Since the  ' good ' players ( apparently ) play there, and us plebs play Randoms ?


Edited by TheJungleBeast, 19 June 2020 - 02:41 PM.


totallynotqsr #11 Posted 19 June 2020 - 03:12 PM

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 OP's most played tanks, bit of a hypocrite if you ask me :)

BlackBloodBandit #12 Posted 19 June 2020 - 03:15 PM

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View Postxx984, on 19 June 2020 - 12:49 PM, said:

only op ones that should be blocked is chief and 279.

only that you consider OP are chief and 279.

907 is considered OP as well by a lot of unicums and other good players, for a reason.

 

These tanks are the one of the main reasons I don't play much ranked, as the meta sucks.



the_nebuchadnezzar #13 Posted 19 June 2020 - 03:29 PM

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View Postaps1, on 19 June 2020 - 01:14 PM, said:


Chieftains and 907s are not op in 1s 2s or 3s the problem comes in clan wars when tech tree clans have to fight full teams of them. When they hunt in packs they are devastating but on thier own or in platoons they are beatable.

 

edit 

EBR`s Arty is the bigger problem.

Fix it for you!



xtrem3x #14 Posted 19 June 2020 - 03:41 PM

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View Post_Anarchistic_, on 19 June 2020 - 10:42 AM, said:

so  reward/mission tanks are out of ranked to make the game more 'even' or balanced 

admission of guilt by WG? 

 

these tanks are too OP for all tier 10 ranked battles so clearly they need to be sorted for randoms so all games are more 'even' for the majority of players?

 

 

WG are listening to the mob, that's all.

Come ranked that same mob will point their finger at something else as the reason they don't achieve the rank they feel they deserve :child:



Gruff_ #15 Posted 19 June 2020 - 03:48 PM

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If they could balance their product better this wouldn't be an issue.

aps1 #16 Posted 19 June 2020 - 04:45 PM

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View Postthe_nebuchadnezzar, on 19 June 2020 - 03:29 PM, said:

Fix it for you!


 

Hahaha well played. I love my EBR I wont have a bad word said about them! 
 

but you do a have a slight point. I suppose the issue with arty is you can’t even fight back. With EBRs you can. 



Search_Warrant #17 Posted 19 June 2020 - 05:15 PM

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So because there are like 3 tanks out of all the reward tanks that are total broken overpowered, ALL reward tanks get shafted. typical WG shotgun tactics.

Ratriq #18 Posted 19 June 2020 - 05:35 PM

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Wait what noooooo, not my lovely 215b 183! Damnit, it's not only the tier 10 I perform the best in but it's literally a KV-2 2.0, oh well, suppose I'll have to use my Jagdpanzer E 100 instead then...

 

My poor lil' Deathstar getting excluded like this, this is tankism I tell ya.



24doom24 #19 Posted 19 June 2020 - 05:42 PM

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I find it funny how everyone is playing dumb and acting like the OP is calling all reward status tier 10 vehicles OP. Obviously we're all talking about the 279e and Chieftain. 

 

The reason WG banned all reward tanks is to avoid an argument over which reward tanks are OP or not. Some people claim the 907 is OP while others do not. Instead of arguing over drawing a line between OP and not OP it's easier to just ban all of them so nobody can complain. 


Edited by 24doom24, 19 June 2020 - 05:46 PM.


BlackBloodBandit #20 Posted 19 June 2020 - 05:50 PM

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They are a bit late with excluding Reward Tanks. Some I couldn't care about if they were allowed, since they are well balanced, like M60 and 121B. Mostly because they are available in the Bond Shop, so everyone can buy them. I'm happy though with the decision and it was about time that WG would make a big decision, for once, with positive impact on the game environment, especially the competitive part of the game.

Maybe the underdog tanks have more chance now to get good results =)






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