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GANDALF_WOT #1 Posted 20 June 2020 - 01:02 PM

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1.) SPG makes game unplayable specially with frequently MM templates with  2 and 3 SPG in game when you play slow heavy and TD - this is not a tank game any more.

2.) EBR 105 brake basic of WoT mechanics and makes game irritating and senceless to play. MM puts sometimes 3 EBR 105 in game for total crap.

3.) MM templates are unbalanced and after 10 years tooooo many 15:1 results.

4.) two (2) Tier difference is not challenge it is a crap.

5.) After 10 years we have many new unexperienced players which is positive but they can not and must not be mixed with experienced players. Newcomers with 300-1000 battles must not play with players with 20-30.000 games. This is irritating to both sides and leads to great imbalance in game and results like 15:'0



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View PostGANDALF_WOT, on 20 June 2020 - 02:02 PM, said:

5.) After 10 years we have many new unexperienced players which is positive but they can not and must not be mixed with experienced players. Newcomers with 300-1000 battles must not play with players with 20-30.000 games. This is irritating to both sides and leads to great imbalance in game and results like 15:'0

 

1. Who is WE ?

2. I would rather play with some 1k "inexperienced" player who wants to learn than with some more "experienced" 56k player who will never learn.



GANDALF_WOT #4 Posted 21 June 2020 - 01:04 PM

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View Post890, on 20 June 2020 - 02:59 PM, said:

 

1. Who is WE ?

2. I would rather play with some 1k "inexperienced" player who wants to learn than with some more "experienced" 56k player who will never learn.


Hi master!

Does your ego feel betther after insulting?

WE means all WoT players.

I just do not like to have in team 10 bots with around 1000 battles.

I did and will not insult unexperienced new players.

 



Nishi_Kinuyo #5 Posted 21 June 2020 - 01:55 PM

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My #1: people who whine.

 

Also @OP: have you considered the fact that you're just not good at the game to be a major influence?

Take the IS-3-II as an example; you do tier 6-7 levels of damage in one can be argued is one of the better tier 9 russian heavies.


Edited by Nishi_Kinuyo, 21 June 2020 - 01:57 PM.


890 #6 Posted 21 June 2020 - 05:27 PM

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View PostGANDALF_WOT, on 21 June 2020 - 02:04 PM, said:


Hi master!

Does your ego feel betther after insulting?

WE means all WoT players.

I just do not like to have in team 10 bots with around 1000 battles.

I did and will not insult unexperienced new players.

 

 

I didn't insult you. I just disagree with your opinion. I honestly would rather see a team of players who don’t have many games and play well than a player who has a lot of games and still plays badly. You don't like to see 10 bots with 1k games in a match, I don't like to see 10 bots as many games as they have. And as you can see, I don't insult those "inexperienced" players either, because I think that they can learn to play better.
I also don't like it when someone writes "WE" on my behalf. It turns out that I agree with your opinion in that case but that is not true.



GANDALF_WOT #7 Posted 26 June 2020 - 06:53 PM

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View Post890, on 21 June 2020 - 05:27 PM, said:

 

I didn't insult you. I just disagree with your opinion. I honestly would rather see a team of players who don’t have many games and play well than a player who has a lot of games and still plays badly. You don't like to see 10 bots with 1k games in a match, I don't like to see 10 bots as many games as they have. And as you can see, I don't insult those "inexperienced" players either, because I think that they can learn to play better.
I also don't like it when someone writes "WE" on my behalf. It turns out that I agree with your opinion in that case but that is not true.


This is just my opinion. I do not see yours? There must be something that you do not like in  WOT. 



Nishi_Kinuyo #8 Posted 26 June 2020 - 10:29 PM

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View PostGANDALF_WOT, on 26 June 2020 - 06:53 PM, said:

This is just my opinion. I do not see yours? There must be something that you do not like in  WOT. 

Then don't use the "we" form when it is *your* opinion.



Nebuched #9 Posted 26 June 2020 - 10:55 PM

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View PostNishi_Kinuyo, on 21 June 2020 - 01:55 PM, said:

My #1: people who whine.

 

Also @OP: have you considered the fact that you're just not good at the game to be a major influence?

Take the IS-3-II as an example; you do tier 6-7 levels of damage in one can be argued is one of the better tier 9 russian heavies.

Which is the best t9 in your opinion ?

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View PostGANDALF_WOT, on 20 June 2020 - 01:02 PM, said:

1.) SPG makes game unplayable specially with frequently MM templates with  2 and 3 SPG in game when you play slow heavy and TD - this is not a tank game any more.

2.) EBR 105 brake basic of WoT mechanics and makes game irritating and senceless to play. MM puts sometimes 3 EBR 105 in game for total crap.

3.) MM templates are unbalanced and after 10 years tooooo many 15:1 results.

4.) two (2) Tier difference is not challenge it is a crap.

5.) After 10 years we have many new unexperienced players which is positive but they can not and must not be mixed with experienced players. Newcomers with 300-1000 battles must not play with players with 20-30.000 games. This is irritating to both sides and leads to great imbalance in game and results like 15:'0

Cant think of any way to prevent sealclubbing unless you ban players from playing lowest tiers after a certain amount of battles-and that would mean I can play my t-29 anymore for fun...



Erwin_Von_Braun #10 Posted 26 June 2020 - 11:50 PM

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View PostGANDALF_WOT, on 21 June 2020 - 12:04 PM, said:


Hi master!

Does your ego feel betther after insulting?

WE means all WoT players.

I just do not like to have in team 10 bots with around 1000 battles.

I did and will not insult unexperienced new players.

 

YOU do not speak for everyone.

All this 'we hate' is nothing more than self-indulgent whining.



evilchaosmonkey #11 Posted 28 June 2020 - 07:59 PM

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OP does have a point about the huge influx of  truly terrible players at tier 8 to tier 10 though.

Should be far far harder to progress tiers as it was a few years ago - the grind up should effectively make people learn.

 



Balc0ra #12 Posted 28 June 2020 - 11:52 PM

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View PostGANDALF_WOT, on 26 June 2020 - 06:53 PM, said:


This is just my opinion. I do not see yours? There must be something that you do not like in  WOT. 

 

Exactly, it's your opinion, not ours.  And he did post his opinion the post before. You shot it down remember? As in you did not consider him "we". And I 100% agree with that opinion. As in I would rather have a 1K player that is willing to learn from his mistakes, then Steve with 50K games that still do the same mistakes all the time and only blindly blames the team for him failing.

 

That said... My list after 10 years? Whiners and friendly arty stun. That's about it.



SiliconSidewinder #13 Posted 29 June 2020 - 09:14 AM

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View Postevilchaosmonkey, on 28 June 2020 - 07:59 PM, said:

OP does have a point about the huge influx of  truly terrible players at tier 8 to tier 10 though.

Should be far far harder to progress tiers as it was a few years ago - the grind up should effectively make people learn.

 

 

how long should that take?

Not only would people be put of from the game if it takes to long to get their dream tank, but also it never really was that hard to get to tier VIII in the first place.

Sure the progression is faster now but even when I started you could get to a tier VIII tank in a few hundred games assuming you had a prem account.

 

edit: and remember the new players usually have fast yolo games so a few hundred games might actually be just 2 weeks of playing.


Edited by SiliconSidewinder, 29 June 2020 - 09:16 AM.


woolfie #14 Posted 29 June 2020 - 10:25 AM

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Back in the day in the original WoT environment we had - 

 

no 6th sense skill,

no crewbooks, 

no blueprints,

+5 MM,

unlimited arty per team,

premium ammo/consumables cost gold only,

consumables were single-use only,

no crew directives to cover any lack of crucial skills such as 6th sense.

 

None of the above made me hate the game. Newer players these days really have no idea how easy things are for them!



SiliconSidewinder #15 Posted 30 June 2020 - 03:40 PM

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View Postwoolfie, on 29 June 2020 - 10:25 AM, said:

Back in the day in the original WoT environment we had - 

 

no 6th sense skill,

no crewbooks, 

no blueprints,

+5 MM,

unlimited arty per team,

premium ammo/consumables cost gold only,

consumables were single-use only,

no crew directives to cover any lack of crucial skills such as 6th sense.

 

None of the above made me hate the game. Newer players these days really have no idea how easy things are for them!

 

I miss the times when nobody had sixth sense.

 






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