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UserZer00 #1 Posted 24 June 2020 - 08:38 AM

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1) Choose to play arty free if it meant

     - Never being able to play an arty in game

     - Have to use certificates (?) to complete all the arty campaign missions

     - Having to wait up to 5-10 minutes to find a battle

     - Not being able to platoon with anyone who hasn't chosen the same option

     - You would no longer be able to whine about arty on the forums or in game chat

 

2) Choose to play premium ammo free if it meant

    - Never being able to use it in game

     - Having to wait up to 5-10 minutes to find a battle

     - Not being able to platoon with anyone who hasn't chosen the same option

     - You would no longer be able to whine about ammo on the forums or in game chat

 

3) Play without EBRs if it meant

    - Never being able to play one in game

     - Having to wait up to 5-10 minutes to find a battle

     - Not being able to platoon with anyone who hasn't chosen the same option

     - You would no longer be able to whine about them on the forums or in game chat

 

Feel free to add more cinditions or create your own "Would you......."



Frostilicus #2 Posted 24 June 2020 - 08:45 AM

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Where's the fun in stopping people whining in chat?

 

;)



UserZer00 #3 Posted 24 June 2020 - 09:00 AM

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View PostFrostilicus, on 24 June 2020 - 08:45 AM, said:

Where's the fun in stopping people whining in chat?

 

;)

This is WOT, a change doesn't have to be fun, there just have to be "reasons"

 

I can't tell you the reasons though, they are hidden in the soft stats.



Ratriq #4 Posted 24 June 2020 - 09:20 AM

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Now after I started playing my lovely T95, arty has given me a whole new kind of ptsd of splash dmg and hatred towards them and Prokhorovka... don't you dare get me started on Prokhorovka...



Kdingo #5 Posted 24 June 2020 - 09:22 AM

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View PostUserZer00, on 24 June 2020 - 08:38 AM, said:

1) Choose to play arty free if it meant

     - Never being able to play an arty in game

     - Have to use certificates (?) to complete all the arty campaign missions

     - Having to wait up to 5-10 minutes to find a battle

     - Not being able to platoon with anyone who hasn't chosen the same option

     - You would no longer be able to whine about arty on the forums or in game chat

 

2) Choose to play premium ammo free if it meant

    - Never being able to use it in game

     - Having to wait up to 5-10 minutes to find a battle

     - Not being able to platoon with anyone who hasn't chosen the same option

     - You would no longer be able to whine about ammo on the forums or in game chat

 

3) Play without EBRs if it meant

    - Never being able to play one in game

     - Having to wait up to 5-10 minutes to find a battle

     - Not being able to platoon with anyone who hasn't chosen the same option

     - You would no longer be able to whine about them on the forums or in game chat

 

Feel free to add more cinditions or create your own "Would you......."

 

How come that 1) doesn't have any downsides?

 

View PostFrostilicus, on 24 June 2020 - 08:45 AM, said:

Where's the fun in stopping people whining in chat?

 

;)

 

Ask wg, they removed crossteam chat... i miss the tears. :(


Edited by Kdingo, 24 June 2020 - 09:24 AM.


Homer_J #6 Posted 24 June 2020 - 09:30 AM

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1. No

2. No

3. No

 

Though I don't recall ever whining about any of them so that's not exactly going to be a great loss to me.



Sirebellus #7 Posted 24 June 2020 - 09:32 AM

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I wouldnt play the game under any circumstances if I had to wait 5-10 minutes to play a 4.5 minute game

Edited by Sirebellus, 24 June 2020 - 09:33 AM.


Ratriq #8 Posted 24 June 2020 - 09:38 AM

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View PostHomer_J, on 24 June 2020 - 08:30 AM, said:

1. No

2. No

3. No

 

Though I don't recall ever whining about any of them so that's not exactly going to be a great loss to me.

Not ever whining about arty? Okay, now I think we just found the problem, sir.



1ucky #9 Posted 24 June 2020 - 09:42 AM

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I'd play with or without anything, as long as the game's good, overall.

Homer_J #10 Posted 24 June 2020 - 09:53 AM

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View PostRatriq, on 24 June 2020 - 09:38 AM, said:

Not ever whining about arty? Okay, now I think we just found the problem, sir.

 

Not even in the days when you would regularly be oneshot in your tier VIII by a top tier arty which happened to be two tiers lower than you.

 

I do remember though how WG had to nerf TDs soon after they first nerfed arty and it practically disappeared overnight.  All you do by removing one disliked class is create another.



splash_time #11 Posted 24 June 2020 - 10:09 AM

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Only because of campaign. I hate playing with and against arty.

gunslingerXXX #12 Posted 24 June 2020 - 10:12 AM

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1 yes definitely. 

2 only if que time is < 2 min.

3 no



Ratriq #13 Posted 24 June 2020 - 10:16 AM

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View PostHomer_J, on 24 June 2020 - 08:53 AM, said:

 

Not even in the days when you would regularly be oneshot in your tier VIII by a top tier arty which happened to be two tiers lower than you.

 

I do remember though how WG had to nerf TDs soon after they first nerfed arty and it practically disappeared overnight.  All you do by removing one disliked class is create another.

Sure, of course, one class is going to take its place, it's always been that way in everything, but what is happening in a situation like that is the "lesser evil takes the place of the bigger evil".

Either way, I think I many others, only dislike arty cause, imho, it's just a bad gameplay mechanic that ruins wot's gameplay. I honestly see no place for arty, cause the negatives in my view outweighs the positives since from my experience arty is just making camping worse and restricts players to use a smaller part of the map and punishes players for trying to flank or push into enemies.



arthurwellsley #14 Posted 24 June 2020 - 10:25 AM

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View PostUserZer00, on 24 June 2020 - 07:38 AM, said:

1) Choose to play arty free if it meant This will never happen. The game has been going for ten years with sufficient success to keep it going. Integral to that has been a large proportion of the player base who choose to play SPGs. War Gaming will pander to those paying customers. Although SPG's got massively nerfed in patch 8.6 it as still not stopped the less able from playing the class.

   

2) Choose to play premium ammo free if it meant The game is balanced around there being three shell types. Skilled players know under what circumstances to pick 1,2, or even 3. If you cannot understand the function of the 2 key, why it is there and why it has been a necessity for ten years to have it, then you still have alot to learn about this game.

  

 

3) Play without EBRs if it meant Wheeled vehicles are merely another dimension to the game, if you cannot grasp how to deal with them, then I suggest you play them a great deal more to understand better their strengths and limitations. The tiers V-IX are not actually that good. Buffing the tier V-IX tracked lights very slightly would lead players to forget the wheeled vehicles all together.

 

Condition - that WG continue there efforts to balance the game based on statistics and not the random "feels" of players on forums. Also listening to players such as Murazor got us into this mess.

 

 



UserZer00 #15 Posted 24 June 2020 - 10:46 AM

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View Postarthurwellsley, on 24 June 2020 - 10:25 AM, said:

 

Ahh, but the fun of what if's is that they don't have to be something that is probable, the idea was to kniow how far you would be willing to go to avoid your most annoying aspect of the game.

 

In no way do I expect any of the options to be implemented (as proposed at least).  I don't even particularly want them 

 

Im pretty happy with the game as it is, but would love better balance just the same 


Edited by UserZer00, 24 June 2020 - 10:47 AM.





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